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Title: What Are U.S. Forces Doing in Niger Anyway?
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URL Source: http://www.theamericanconservative. ... -forces-doing-in-niger-anyway/
Published: Oct 21, 2017
Author: JASON C. DITZ
Post Date: 2017-10-21 05:14:27 by Ada
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Comments: 3

For five years, U.S. forces operated under the radar—until four of them were killed.

On October 4, four U.S. troops and five Nigerians were killed in ambush by heavily armed ISIS-affiliated fighters near the restive Mali border in Niger. While the press has been obsessed with how President Donald Trump has handled it politically back home, it’s important to note that this event not only marked the first U.S. combat deaths in Niger, but the first public revelation that the Pentagon was carrying out anything close to combat operations there at all.

That isn’t to say that we didn’t know the U.S. had troops in Niger. In February of 2015, U.S. African Command announced a deployment of troops for a small training operation. But it wasn’t meant to be permanent. More so, it was never widely conveyed, at least publicly, that Special Forces would be engaging in joint military patrols on the Mali border, a known stomping ground for multiple Islamist factions. This, according to reports, is what the Green Berets were doing when they were ambushed.

In that incident, 12 U.S. troops were reportedly leaving a meeting with local leaders and were walking back to unarmored vehicles when they came under fire from 50 Islamists with small arms, machine guns, and rocket- propelled grenades. Though outgunned the Green Berets engaged in a firefight lasting about 30 minutes before the French military came to the rescue with fighter jets, eventually scaring the ISIS-affiliated fighters away (they reportedly did not have authority to shoot). The French forces then came in with helicopters to fly out the dead and wounded.

Three U.S. soldiers were reported killed and two wounded that day, and two days later it was announced a fourth was found dead after a lengthy recovery operation.

“This was a hard fight, this was a very tough fight,” Secretary of Defense James Mattis told reporters last week.

Why were they outgunned? It could be that the mission had been set up as “low risk” when team leaders got the go-ahead to move forward on the patrols in the first place, according to sources quoted by the New York Times. This is clearly troubling, however, when one considers the Mali-Niger border region is known to be teeming with multiple Islamist factions. That appears to be why the U.S. is there, though there has been no real conversation in Washington, much less in the public forum, about the role there.

Turns out that for five years Niger has been a toe in the expanding American footprint in Africa, and has become a hub of U.S. military activity (about 800 soldiers are serving as advisors and training local forces there now) and, according to Nick Turse, the location of a brand new $100 million drone base. Meanwhile, the region has become a crossroads of Islamist activity, from Boko Haram in Nigeria to al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb across the Sahel. And now, apparently, ISIS.

While some reporters have sought to find scandal in President Trump’s reaction to the troop deaths, there’s been little to no concern about the U.S. putting troops in combat situations in Niger in the first place, ostensibly to “train and advise,” and then keeping it largely out of the press.

Niger is far from the exception. In March 2012, the Pentagon confirmed that U.S. troops were attacked in the southern Yemeni city of Aden, and that a CIA officer was killed. This was the first time officials confirmed that the U.S. had ground troops operating inside Yemen at all. The revelation is even more stunning when one recalls that the White House publicly ruled out sending ground troops to Yemen several times in the years leading up to this admission.

During his August 21 speech on Afghanistan, President Trump cautioned that “America’s enemies must never know our plans.” This was presented at the time as a reason for not giving any specifics about how the Afghan war’s escalation was to proceed, but also appears to be a driving policy goal for the administration, likely at the behest of the Pentagon—secrecy at all cost.

Given the Pentagon’s long history of being less than candid with the American public, making secrecy a government-wide goal suggests what happened in Niger was not an oversight, nor likely to be a unique situation for the world’s largest military, which has troops in myriad countries—at last count 138—often doing God knows what.

Even in obvious, known war zones, like Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan, the Pentagon often plays semantics games with its missions, regularly defining troops in the middle of firefights to be “advisors” or “trainers.” It’s rare indeed for the Pentagon to acknowledge that any of its troops are in “combat duty” anywhere. Nothing ensures limited coverage of a U.S. war like rebranding it a training operation, and apart from the casualties that inevitably follow, little to suggest to the casual observer that America is actually engaged in combat there.

This is doubly true in places like Niger, where the original reports of deployments were so deceptively downplayed by the Pentagon that few media outlets bothered to cover them. The presence of U.S. troops was, if not a secret, not exactly a widely known fact. With troop numbers and operational details kept from the public, America can be, and in fact is, engaged in secret wars without any public oversight.

Keeping the “enemy” from knowing our plans has become so vague, with so many deployments around that world, that who the enemy even is has to remain unspoken, so it can change on a whim, or as U.S. patrols happen to stumble into new fights. And when they do, the 2002 Authorization for the Use of Military Force (AUMF) serves as the blanket authority to engage in combat.

Niger provides a terrifying reminder of how far we are from being an informed American public that serves as a check and balance on what our military is doing in our name. We can’t have a debate on U.S. intervention overseas if we don’t even know where are our forces are, let alone to what end.

Jason Ditz is news editor at Antiwar.com, a nonprofit organization dedicated to the cause of non-interventionism. His work has appeared in Forbes, the Toronto Star, the Minneapolis Star-Tribune, the Providence Journal, the Daily Caller, The American Conservative, the Washington Times and the Detroit Free Press.

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#1. To: Ada (#0)

For five years, U.S. forces operated under the radar—until four of them were killed.

Bullshit squared is still bullshit. The 3rd Special Forces Group,which these FOUR men were assigned to has Africa as their country of interest. This has been true since the day the 3rd SFG has existed,and was certainly true when I reported in for duty with the 3rd SFG in the summer of 1964.

it’s important to note that this event not only marked the first U.S. combat deaths in Niger, but the first public revelation that the Pentagon was carrying out anything close to combat operations there at all.

More bullshit. These guys weren't even combat troops. They were Civil Affairs support troops who were only armed with M-4's and handguns. No beltfeds,no mortars,no grenades,etc,etc,etc. Their job was and is to help bring civilization ,including medical care and health services to remote villagers. They are mostly builders,though. They build roads,dams,septic systems,dig wells,build community meeting halls,dispensaries,communal bathhouses,etc,etc,etc.

Please note,this does NOT justify them being sent out to a remote village without the ground support of infantry soldiers,and with air support on call. Bad things happen to people who go out into remote areas of Africa without being prepared to deal with bad things.

But it wasn’t meant to be permanent. More so, it was never widely conveyed, at least publicly, that Special Forces would be engaging in joint military patrols on the Mali border, a known stomping ground for multiple Islamist factions.

Only because clueless fools like you never bothered to do any research,and because most Americans are too busy living their lives to be worrying about what small teams of American soldiers are doing in Africa. As I have said before,this has been going on since the early 60's. There is nothing even remotely secret about it.

This, according to reports, is what the Green Berets were doing when they were ambushed.

JAY-ZUS! Just how freaking ignorant do you have to be to be a freaking reporter,anyway? Maybe Mr.Ditz,who clearly has a very appropriate name,should do a web search using the key words "civil affairs units"? If he did,he would understand that Civil Affairs units DO NOT GO ON PATROLS. Their work involves,....,well,Civil Affairs. The only reasons they even have rifles is because EVERYBODY in the army has a rifle and/or a pistol.

And,they weren't ambushed while on patrol. They were in that village meeting with the village elders and talking about how they could help them improve their living conditions. The village chief send out two of his tribe to notify the local Muslim fighters that there were Americans in his village they could kill. I have read one story that quotes someone there as claiming they got suspicious when they heard two motorcycles leaving the village,and the tribal chief seems to be stalling the talks to keep them there. If they had been combat soldiers,they would have left the instant they became suspicious because combat soldiers trust their instincts. That's how they stay alive.

Why were they outgunned? It could be that the mission had been set up as “low risk” when team leaders got the go-ahead to move forward on the patrols in the first place, according to sources quoted by the New York Times.

The stupidity is endless. They were outgunned BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT A COMBAT UNIT AND THEY WERE NOT ON A COMBAT PATROL.

This is clearly troubling, however, when one considers the Mali-Niger border region is known to be teeming with multiple Islamist factions.

Ok,THIS is the part that *I* have trouble with. Whoever it was in overall command that sent them out there with no infantry support,and no dedicated air cover on-call needs to lose their career immediately,and possibly serve time in the Ft.Leavenworth prion for dereliction of duty that resulted in the deaths of men under their command. It was NOT the fault of the Civil Affairs commanders because they are not a combat unit and have no infantry soldiers to send along as a security element,but it IS the fault of their superiors that ordered their men to go out there all alone with no help on instant standby. You just don't do that.

While some reporters have sought to find scandal in President Trump’s reaction to the troop deaths, there’s been little to no concern about the U.S. putting troops in combat situations in Niger in the first place, ostensibly to “train and advise,”

DUHHHH! Training and advising foreign forces IS what Special Forces does. It is their basic number 1 reason to exist,and there is nothing even the tiniest bit secret about it. SF had the Gabriel Demonstration Area set up at Ft.Bragg in the early 60's that gave press and public tours to show the press and the public what Special Forces soldiers do and display their capabilities. This includes combat roles as well as Civil Affairs roles. One of my first duties at Ft.Bragg in 64 was to play the role of a Vietnamese villager in the mock VN village they had set up. Conical straw hat,black pajamas,and all. I think they quit doing this when the budget cuts hit during the Carter years.

BTW,it was named after one of the first Special Forces medics killed in VN. IIRC,his first name was James.

Niger is far from the exception. In March 2012, the Pentagon confirmed that U.S. troops were attacked in the southern Yemeni city of Aden, and that a CIA officer was killed. This was the first time officials confirmed that the U.S. had ground troops operating inside Yemen at all. The revelation is even more stunning when one recalls that the White House publicly ruled out sending ground troops to Yemen several times in the years leading up to this admission.

More ignorance on display. Sending SF mobile training teams into anywhere is NOT considered the same as sending in "military forces" for a couple of reasons. The first being that technically they are NOT combat troops,but teachers. Secondly,SF is not a conventional military infantry unit,and is not organized to take the place of a conventional infantry unit like the 82nd Abn Division.

When you say "ground troops",you ARE talking about conventional infantry units,even if this reporter is the aptly-named Ditz,and doesn't know the difference between an infantry battalion and a lifeboat.

Even in obvious, known war zones, like Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan, the Pentagon often plays semantics games with its missions, regularly defining troops in the middle of firefights to be “advisors” or “trainers.”

Guess what,Bubba. It's not the Pentagram's fault you and your kin are Ditz's that are too ignorant to understand the meanings of plain English phrases. If you want to find the booger at fault,look in your mirror.

Jason Ditz is news editor at Antiwar.com

Gee,THERE is a shock! He is against war,so of course that makes him an expert.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-10-21   9:53:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Ada (#0)

I will give you a better question. Why the frell does the US of A have over 1,000 military bases, 15 aircraft carriers, 35 nuke subs?????

Darkwing  posted on  2017-10-21   13:27:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Darkwing (#2)

Why the frell does the US of A have over 1,000 military bases, 15 aircraft carriers, 35 nuke subs?????

History and geo/politics are indeed boring subjects, so most people ignore them and pretend they are worldly wise.

Adjunct to the question posed, a wise person might ask, "why is China opening bases in Africa and building aircraft carriers at a furious pace"????

Cynicom  posted on  2017-10-21   13:36:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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