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Title: International Criminal Court Seeks Afghanistan War Crimes Probe That Could Target US Troops
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URL Source: http://www.mintpressnews.com/intern ... -afghanistan-us-troops/234037/
Published: Nov 5, 2017
Author: AP
Post Date: 2017-11-05 08:55:07 by Ada
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The ICC’s Chief Prosecutor said a preliminary examination found “a reasonable basis to believe that war crimes and crimes against humanity” were committed in Afghanistan after US-led troops moved in following the September 11 attacks in 2001.

The chief prosecutor for the International Criminal Court is seeking an investigation of alleged war crimes committed in the war in Afghanistan, an unprecedented probe that could involve US troops.

Fatou Bensouda said in a statement that a preliminary examination found “a reasonable basis to believe that war crimes and crimes against humanity” were committed in Afghanistan after US-led troops moved in following the September 11 attacks in 2001.

Once the prosecutor submits her investigation request to the court, based in the Dutch city of The Hague, it is up to the tribunal’s judges to decide whether to open one.

Ms Bensouda’s office said her request will be filed publicly “in the days to come”.

An Afghanistan probe would be exceptional because until now most ICC trials have dealt with events in Africa. The only case currently under investigation outside Africa is in the former Soviet republic of Georgia.

Human Rights Watch welcomed the announcement as a step towards ending impunity for crimes in Afghanistan.

“Thousands and thousands of Afghans have suffered horrendous human rights abuses and war crimes over the years and there has been no accountability,” said Richard Dicker of the group’s international justice programme.

“The announcement today by the prosecutor opens the door to the possibility that for the first time there may be some justice possible for the victims.”

Ms Bensouda said in a report last year that US forces and CIA agents may have committed war crimes by torturing detainees in Afghanistan between 2003 and 2014.

That opens the possibility that Americans could be among those investigated for possible prosecution, even though the US is not among the court’s more than 120 members.

Taliban and Afghan government forces may also have used torture and committed other atrocities in Afghanistan’s long and bitter conflict, the report said.

Ms Bensouda said in a statement that if judges approve an investigation, her office “will investigate, within its mandate and means, in an independent, impartial and objective way, crimes within the court’s jurisdiction allegedly committed by any party to the armed conflict”.

Americans could face prosecution if their alleged crimes took place in a country that is an ICC member, such as Afghanistan, and if they were not prosecuted at home.

However, legal experts say the chances of American service members being charged and sent to face justice at the ICC are remote.

Katherine Gallagher, senior staff attorney at US rights organization the Centre for Constitutional Rights, said the possibility that Americans could be charged sends a “long overdue message that no one is above the law”.

Established in 2002, the ICC is the world’s first permanent court set up to prosecute war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocide.

As president Bill Clinton signed the Rome treaty that established the court, but George W Bush renounced the signature, citing fears that Americans would be unfairly prosecuted for political reasons.

Ms Bensouda’s 2016 report said the alleged US war crimes “were not the abuses of a few isolated individuals. Rather, they appear to have been committed as part of approved interrogation techniques in an attempt to extract ‘actionable intelligence’ from detainees”.

The prosecutor’s report noted that US authorities have conducted dozens of investigations and court martial cases.

After the September 11 attacks, the Bush administration allowed the use of waterboarding, which simulates drowning, and other interrogation techniques against suspected terrorists. Barack Obama banned such practices after taking office in 2009.

A full-scale investigation, if approved by judges, could take months or years before the prosecutor decides whether to file charges. Then it remains to be seen if suspects can be detained and handed to the court for trial.

“We have seen that arrest and surrender is the Achilles heel of international justice,” Mr Dicker said.

Top photo | In this Sunday, March 11, 2012 file photo, men stand next to blood stains and charred remains inside a home where witnesses say Afghans were killed by a U.S. soldier in Panjwai, Kandahar province south of Kabul, Afghanistan. U.S. military officials investigated the massacre site more than three weeks after the killings occurred. (AP/Allauddin Khan)

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#1. To: Ada (#0)

If they go after US military, then they should go after the entire Bush 2 and Clinton Administration.

Darkwing  posted on  2017-11-05   9:11:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Darkwing (#1)

If they go after US military, then they should go after the entire Bush 2 and Clinton Administration.

Yes, but don't forget Obama and Trump although I don't think the "ve vas chust followink orders" argument has much validity. Appears that the generals have been running foreign policy and its they who should be appearing before the war ccrimes tribunal.

Ada  posted on  2017-11-05   9:24:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Ada (#0)

Odd how I see no mention of Russian troops being brought up on trial,or the followers of any of the Jihadist movements.

All I see is mention of bringing the people to trial that were most effective at destroying the Jihadists.

Imagine that!

If you want to destroy our military,I can't think of an easier way that allowing them to put put on trial for war crimes by a jury of Globalist Anti-American asshats for just doing their duty.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-11-05   11:12:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: sneakypete (#3) (Edited)

Odd how I see no mention of Russian troops being brought up on trial,or the followers of any of the Jihadist movements.

Russians are not an occupying force anywhere and AFAIK have not been suspected of war crimes although I suppose the US is capable of accusing them of it just like they accuse Assad of gassing his own people. Jihadists, of course, are not given the benefit of a trial, especially those who are working for the US.

Ada  posted on  2017-11-05   13:31:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Ada (#4)

Russians are not an occupying force anywhere and AFAIK have not been suspected of war crimes although I suppose the US is capable of accusing them of it just like they accuse Assad of gassing his own people. Jihadists, of course, are not given the benefit of a trial, especially those who are working for the US.

I see. It's only the US that is capable of any of that.

Is that you,Chelsea?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-11-05   14:58:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: sneakypete (#5)

I see. It's only the US that is capable of any of that.

If you've been watching, there have been war crime trials against NATO troops in Africa--Canadians and Belgians come to mind. And Africans against Africans.

Are you familiar with status of forces agreements?

Ada  posted on  2017-11-05   15:38:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Ada (#6)

And Africans against Africans.

Tribal wars in Africa have been going on for centuries. Nothing new here. One tribe would frequently sell their captives into slavery which nourished the slave trade.

I am sure that Kunta Kinte would recall this. ;)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunta_Kint e

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2017-11-05   16:07:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: BTP Holdings (#7)

Tribal wars in Africa have been going on for centuries.

I'm thinking of more recent atrocities, particularly in the South Sudan.

Ada  posted on  2017-11-05   17:25:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Ada (#8)

more recent atrocities

That is further proof of the historical nature of it all. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2017-11-05   18:12:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Ada (#6)

If you've been watching, there have been war crime trials against NATO troops in Africa--Canadians and Belgians come to mind. And Africans against Africans.

Correct me if I'm wrong,but aren't the Canadians and Belgians white?

Are you familiar with status of forces agreements?

Only very vaguely.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-11-05   22:58:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: BTP Holdings (#7)

Tribal wars in Africa have been going on for centuries.

They are still going on in places like the NE part of the US,Detroit,Atlanta,St.Louis,and the Left Coast. It doesn't get reported on much anymore because nobody cares if a black man kills another black man. It's only news if it is a white man that kills a black man.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-11-05   23:00:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Ada (#0)

“a reasonable basis to believe that war crimes and crimes against humanity”

Not only war crimes but US and its coalition of Israeli toadies are liable for trillions in damages since Afghanis had nothing to do with 9/11 which US neocons used to get the war going. Taliban suggested US provide proof that bin Laden might be responsible for 9/11 (which he denied) but none was forthcoming.US attack was just a proxy war for Israel which didn't like Taliban allowing Arabs to be trained for house-to-house fighting to get squatting Israelii thieves out of Palestine. War funded by a Congress whose members depend on Jews to get elected.

Tatarewicz  posted on  2017-11-06   0:14:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: sneakypete (#10)

Correct me if I'm wrong,but aren't the Canadians and Belgians white?

Being white does not absolve from war crimes nor does it preclude serving in Africa. Somalia Affair

Ada  posted on  2017-11-06   9:33:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Ada (#13)

Being white does not absolve from war crimes nor does it preclude serving in Africa. Somalia Affair

Correct! So why are so many of you whining about whites committing war crimes and not being punished?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-11-06   16:48:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: sneakypete (#14)

Correct! So why are so many of you whining about whites committing war crimes and not being punished?

Didn't mention whites. Its Americans who haven't been dragged before the International War Crimes Tribunal. IMO the tribunal should start with Bush 43.

Duty, honor, atrocity

Ada  posted on  2017-11-06   17:35:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Ada (#15)

Didn't mention whites. Its Americans who haven't been dragged before the International War Crimes Tribunal. IMO the tribunal should start with Bush 43.

Glad to know you are an anti-American Globalist tool. I suspected as much,but it's nice to see you admit it.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-11-06   17:59:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: sneakypete (#16)

Glad to know you are an anti-American Globalist tool. I suspected as much,but it's nice to see you admit it.

Yer half right.

Ada  posted on  2017-11-07   8:55:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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