There are really two ways to look at this effort. One is that this attempt to impeach President Trump got slapped down hard today. The other is that there are now 58 Democrats willing to attach their names to this desperate action which their own leadership is officially against, at least for the moment. In either case, Rep. Al Green promised yesterday he would bring this to a vote and today he made good on that promise. The result was a bust. From the Texas Tribune:
U.S. Rep. Al Greens effort to push the U.S. House to vote to impeach President Donald Trump quickly died Wednesday under bipartisan criticism for the Houston Democrats move.
Hours after he stood in front of a nearly empty House chamber to introduce articles of impeachment, Green sat alone in the middle of the chamber as the House voted 364-58 on a motion to table the resolution, effectively killing it In laying out his resolution on the House floor midday Wednesday, Green called it one of the greatest moments of his life.
Nancy Pelosi and Steny Hoyer released a joint statement on the vote which came well short of saying Trump didnt deserve to be impeached:
This President has made statements and taken actions that are beyond the pale for most Americans, embracing those who espouse hatred and division while promoting policies that would harm our economy and undermine our national security. Legitimate questions have been raised about his fitness to lead this nation. Right now, Congressional committees continue to be deeply engaged in investigations into the Presidents actions both before and after his inauguration. The special counsels investigation is moving forward as well, and those inquiries should be allowed to continue. Now is not the time to consider articles of impeachment.
Again, the message isnt No its Not yet. The White House responded by labeling Rep. Green and those who voted with him extremists. From Politico: Its disappointing that extremists in Congress still refuse to accept the Presidents decisive victory in last years election, spokesman Raj Shah said in a statement. Their time would be better spent focusing on tax relief for American families and businesses, and working to fund our troops and veterans through the holiday season rather than threaten a government shutdown.
As nutty as she is, Nancy Pelosi is smart to avoid getting on board the impeachment train (at least publicly). If Mueller somehow connects the misdeeds of Flynn or Manafort to Trump, then any prior impeachment effort is going to look thin and partisan and premature. And if Mueller doesnt come up with something, then that fact is going to doom any existing impeachment effort once and for all. Rep. Greens effort is a sop to the resistance and little more.
But again, its always possible to spin this as a valiant effort rather than an embarrassment. With nearly a third of the total number of Democrats in the House putting their names to this, its clear there is an appetite for it even on the thinnest of pretenses.
Heres a clip of Rep. Green going down in flames, apparently this is one of the greatest moments of his life.
Poster Comment:
Las Vegas or bust was a sign I saw on the back of a big rig. I guess they had no idea that the "bust" was going to hit in Dee Cee first. And the impeachment sure went bust. LOL
Why not hold Clinton in contempt of Congress or impeach her? They have every right to do so whether she is in office or not... that "Tacit Conspiracy" that has America in chains.
[C-SPAN segment of a pre-election panel discussion. Commentary by Judicial Watch President, Tom Fitton]
Partial transcript of the opening statements at 0:10-1:28 and from 1:29 thereafter:
Tom Fitton: "let's highlight the fact that Congress can take steps that it's refusing to take to hold Mrs. Clinton accountable on this e-mail scandal. And I think this is something important to remember." ... "they can also impeach Mrs. Clinton and they don't have to wait for her to be President to impeach her. Congress retains the ability to impeach a Federal officer for conduct whether that officer is still in office or not. So, they can impeach Mrs. Clinton for misconduct as Secretary of State right now. And you tell that to a Republican member of Congress and the general response you get is stunned silence. But it's true.
"And the sanction would be -- this is the way it works in the House is -- you impeach the official in the House and that's kind of like an indictment and let's move to the Senate for a trial. And the result of the Senate trial, if there's a conviction, one of the sanctions could be ineligibility for future public office.
Boy, wouldn't that be an interesting process at least to begin or talk about? But you don't want to hear any Republicans talking about that. [/s] But the fact is, Mrs. Clinton can be impeached for her conduct as Secretary of State.
"So, the next time you hear Congress complaining about the FBI and the Department of Justice, you know, and the coverup and the wired investigation that resulted in no criminal charges on the Clinton e-mail matter ... you know, that's all fine and good but remember that Congress has independent tools available to it under the Constitution to prosecute the Clinton scandal and they're tools they are refusing to use. So, I think there needs to be some accountability on that."
Noting that Congresspersons and all civil Officers of the United States could likewise be so impeached, whether or not they are still in office, to possibly prevent them from ever holding a government office again.