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Title: Resisting Jesus
Source: Fitzgerald Griffin Foundation
URL Source: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2017/12/joseph-sobran/resisting-jesus/
Published: Dec 15, 2017
Author: Joseph Sobran
Post Date: 2017-12-15 08:46:59 by Ada
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Views: 388
Comments: 4

Griffin Internet Syndicate, 12/23/2004 — As always in our time, Christmas is provoking dissent from people who don’t want Christian symbols on public property or Christmas carols sung in public schools.

Many Christians find this annoying and churlish. Some even feel that Christianity is being persecuted.

The columnist Michelle Malkin writes, “We are under attack by Secularist Grinches Gone Wild.” Pat Buchanan goes so far as to speak of “hate crimes” against Christians.

I disagree. In some parts of the world, from Sudan to China, Christians really are being persecuted, even murdered. But what is going on in America’s symbolic opposition to Christianity is something different.

Sometimes I think the anti-Christian forces take Christ more seriously than most nominal Christians do. The Western world, including many of those who consider themselves Christians, has turned Christmas into a bland holiday of mere niceness. If you don’t get into the spirit, you’re likely to be called a Scrooge.

The natural reaction to Christ is to reject him. He said so. In fact, when he was taken to the Temple as an infant, St. Simeon prophesied that he would be a center of contention. Later he predicted his own death and told his followers they must expect persecution too.

His bitterest enemies weren’t atheists; they were the most religious men of his age, the Pharisees, who considered his claims blasphemous — as, by their lights, they were.

Nice? That’s hardly the word for Jesus. He performed miracles of love and mercy, but he also warned of eternal damnation, attacked and insulted the Pharisees, and could rebuke even people who adored him in words that can only make us cringe.

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To many, he was a threat. He still is. We honor him more by acknowledging his explosive presence than by making him a mere symbol of nice manners. At every step of his ministry, he made enemies and brought his crucifixion closer. People weren’t crucified for being nice.

The negative witnesses

Some people think you can take Christ’s “teachings” and ignore his miracles as if they were fables. But this is to confuse the Sermon on the Mount with the Democratic Party platform. Chief among his teachings was his claim to be God’s son: “I and the Father are one.” “Nobody comes to the Father except through me.”

His teachings are inseparable from his miracles; in fact, his teachings themselves are miraculous. Nobody had ever made such claims before, enraging pious Pharisees and baffling his pious disciples at the same time. After feeding thousands with the miraculous loaves and fishes, he announced that he himself was “the bread of life.” Unless you ate his flesh and drank his blood, he warned, you have no life in you.

This amazing teaching was too much. It cost him many of his disciples on the spot. He didn’t try to coax them back by explaining that he was only speaking figuratively, because he wasn’t. He was foretelling the Last Supper.

At virtually every step of his ministry, Christ accompanied his words with miracles. And the remarkable thing is that his enemies disputed the words rather than the miracles. Of the wonders he performed, there was no doubt; they attracted, and were witnessed by, large crowds. It was their meaning that was controversial.

The blind saw, the deaf heard, cripples walked, lepers were healed. Where did he get the power to do these things? From God or the devil? He used them to certify his power to forgive sins, the claim his critics — enemies, rather — first found outrageous.

His claims still reverberate. The Gospels attest the total coherence of his mission, the perfect harmony between his words and his deeds, even the careful order of his progressive self-disclosure. His modern enemies, many of them professed Christians, don’t try to disprove the miracles; they simply assume he never performed them. And now some of them assume he never spoke many of the words the Gospels record him as saying.

This skeptical attack floors me. The poet Tennyson remarked that Christ’s greatest miracle was his personality. Could anyone else — the four simple authors of the Gospels, for example — have made him up, and put such resonant words in his mouth? “Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.” That’s another claim that seems to be holding up pretty well.

Such a strong, indeed unique, personality could only meet strong — and unique — resistance. This is why Christians shouldn’t resent the natural resistance of those who refuse to celebrate his birth. In their way, those people are his witnesses too.

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#1. To: Ada (#0)

Some people think you can take Christ’s “teachings” and ignore his miracles as if they were fables.

Some people think they can take Biblical “teachings” and ignore whatever they choose to ignore as if it's their choice to accept or reject what is or isn't God's truth.

The other day someone posted an article or the thread meandered into a discussion of the flat earth theory. Some laughed, others made less toxic responses (including myself). Afterwards thinking of myself as open minded I started looking into the idea of a flat earth to discover that there may be more to the flat earth concept than I had expected.

The first thing that struck me was that the ball shaped earth is a relatively recent concept (about 500 years ago) that was developed without the benefit of computers or aircraft ... and when initiated didn't have any more validity than other theories.

Then I realized that the Bible describes a flat earth of some type contained within the "firmament" (whatever that is). All ancient near-eastern societies saw the earth like the picture above and the thing that really stood out to me was that the Bible states the earth is immovable and not spinning through the universe at thousands of miles per hour. [Personally, I haven't felt any thrust or spinning sensation unless inebriated !]

Ephesians 5:11King James Version (KJV)

11 "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. "

noone222  posted on  2017-12-15   9:39:20 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All (#1)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SlRsbQ3nfM

This video if posted is too large for the screen and would screw up the thread so click the url if interested.

Ephesians 5:11King James Version (KJV)

11 "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. "

noone222  posted on  2017-12-15   9:44:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: noone222 (#1)

Twas me that told the Flat Earther to "get lost". IMO these guys are trying to make discussion groups look kooky.

Ada  posted on  2017-12-15   10:06:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Ada (#3)

Twas me that told the Flat Earther to "get lost". IMO these guys are trying to make discussion groups look kooky.

OK, I first need to admit that another "conspiracy" is the very last thing I needed. 2ndly, I haven't fully adopted the flat earth scenario as legit but think the subject is interesting and whether or not it turns out to be true is actually very critical regarding the Biblical description of creation.

As a matter of fact, Christianity would have to jump through a kazillion hoops to explain the necessity of lying about creation for thousands of years. Which would negate the Biblical texts "FROM THE BEGINNING."

In spite of my late arrival to this investigation it seems important enough to have an open mind, to investigate, and make a determination that's not based upon what the powers that be have to say about it since they have been lying their collective asses off my entire life.

There are a number of extended videos that test some things that make one rethink a little what's happening. Airline pilots, air traffic controllers, surveyors, contractors and other are interviewed and asked pertinent questions wherein the answers are surprising.

In the end these videos are far more interesting to me than another stampede of Harvey Weinerschnitzel rape allegations !

Ephesians 5:11King James Version (KJV)

11 "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. "

noone222  posted on  2017-12-15   11:40:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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