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Title: Crypto: The End of Freedom!
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URL Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BfMFOd0-l0
Published: Dec 15, 2017
Author: Snordster
Post Date: 2017-12-15 15:42:25 by Horse
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Views: 514
Comments: 8

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#1. To: Horse (#0)

I read/watch/listen very energetically to any arguments against bitcoin/crypto currency, but I have yet to hear an argument opposing cryptos that is compelling. This one is, to me, also not compelling.

Responding point by point is probably an exercise in futility. But I will ask that if crypto currency is not at least a better solution to what we have now, what is?

I'll also suggest that if cryptocurrency does continue to take deeper root in society world-wide, we're going to have as much choice about using it as we have a choice now about using the US dollar. That is, none. For good or ill, so long as it proves functional, cryptocurrency is going to be a reality.

I do maintain that blockchain based cryptocurrency is NOT a friend of the banks, and DOES have most all attributes required of a currency (the lone exception is intrinsic value, which fiat currency doesn't have either). I also maintain, which this video discounted, that further software developments and competition in the crypto market (competitors to bitcoin) can and will address security pitfalls that are realized.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-12-15   17:58:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Pinguinite, Horse, 4 (#1) (Edited)

Is my belief that the only currency or credit immune from an EMP blast is metals kept at home correct, or not? Opinions?

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2017-12-15   19:32:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Lod (#2)

Is my belief that the only currency or credit immune from an EMP blast is metals kept at home correct, or not? Opinions?

To take out bitcoin, the EMP blast would need to take out all locations where there are bitcoin blockchain nodes, which pretty much means the entire developed world.

Only a fraction of US dollars in circulation exist as printed cash. (That's termed the "M1" money supply, I believe). The rest exists as credit entries at banks primarily across the US, and those entries would be subject to an EMP blast well. So to wipe out the US, or the fiat currency of any developed nation would only require an EMP blast affecting the country in question. So bitcoin would be more able to withstand such a thing.

On the other hand an EMP blast on even the smaller scale would cause complete economic chaos in any developed country even without considering the wiping out of bank data or bitcoin entries.

But yes, in your worst case scenario, gold and silver would of course survive.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-12-15   21:56:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Pinguinite (#1)

I do not want a cashless society. That will be hell on earth. If they can take your money, they will.

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Horse  posted on  2017-12-15   22:31:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Pinguinite, Horse, 4 (#3)

Thanks for your thoughts/comments, and I agree with both of you.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2017-12-15   22:37:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Pinguinite (#3)

an EMP blast on even the smaller scale would cause complete economic chaos

If you would like to go back to the 1850s to live before there was electricity, then that EMP would do the trick since it would wipe out all of out electric capacity across the country. And even knock out most of our transportation since cars and trucks work on electric impulses. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2017-12-15   22:41:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Horse (#4)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2017-12-15   22:55:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: ghostdogtxn, Horse, Lod (#7)

If they can take your money, they will.

I agree. If they can, they will. With the current system they take it by draining your bank account, civil asset forfeiture, lien on homes and so forth.

Or inflation.

With decentralized bitcoin/cryptocurrency, they can't do that. Well, they can lien your house but can't do any of the others.

Worse case it could be a cat n mouse game between the crypto developers and gov pirates. But the developers will ultimately win.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-12-15   23:03:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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