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Title: Winston Churcill on Islam
Source: The River War, first edition, Vol. II, pages 248-50
URL Source: [None]
Published: Mar 8, 1899
Author: Winston Churcill
Post Date: 2006-03-08 04:07:09 by Brer'
Keywords: Churcill, Winston, Islam
Views: 225
Comments: 14

Winston Churcill on Islam The River War | 1899 | Sir Winston Churchill

How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.

The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.

A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.

No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.

-- Sir Winston Churchill (The River War, first edition, Vol. II, pages 248-50 [London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1899]).

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#1. To: All (#0)

Collective 'you'.

You don't read HISTORY? You don't heed HISTORY? Then suffer in ignorance and repetition of its pitfalls. Life is full of choices. If you want to constantly re-invent the wheel and live in a mental cave then fine.

Civilization progresses by heeding the past and seeing the present as an improved continuum.

The rant, " Yoooouuuu are the ONLY generation......yadayadayada" is pure Marxist Bullshit.

Read 'The Wild Swans of Coole' for this analogy.

Brer'  posted on  2006-03-08   4:13:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Brer' (#0)

Churchill's observations are still spot on. I've always said that Islam must be analyized, criticized and then repudiated. To view Islam and the life of Mohammed objectively, honestly leads to abhorrence of its effects in the lives, hearts, minds, spirits of its slaves of allah and non-muslims it seeks to dominate.

That being said, i also abhor the scapegoating of muslims and the vicious attacks they are undergoing by the u.s. government by orders of monkey monster. What a pathetic country we've become.

fatidic  posted on  2006-03-08   10:13:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: fatidic (#2)

That being said, i also abhor the scapegoating of muslims and the vicious attacks they are undergoing by the u.s. government by orders of monkey monster. What a pathetic country we've become.

Amen.

Lod  posted on  2006-03-08   10:20:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: fatidic (#2)

That being said, i also abhor the scapegoating of muslims and the vicious attacks they are undergoing by the u.s. government by orders of monkey monster.

What I see is to the contrary. Boy Jorge is actively EXCUSING muslims....and the State Department is bringing them in by the thousands !! So are the leftist universities. Chapel Hill is like being in Medina.

Brer'  posted on  2006-03-08   13:04:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Brer' (#4)

What I see is to the contrary. Boy Jorge is actively EXCUSING muslims....and the State Department is bringing them in by the thousands !! So are the leftist universities. Chapel Hill is like being in Medina.

Can't argue with that, but hope you aren't denying that our military is destroying an entire country, including innocent muslim children. Can't we both agree that monkey monster is a dangerous lunatic who just as soon invite you into this country as kill you in your?

fatidic  posted on  2006-03-08   19:12:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: fatidic (#5)

Can't go that far. 9-11 is all I need to know about Islam. They're lucky it was Boy Jorge and not me in the WH.

9-12...Aswan Dam

9-13...Medina and Mecca

no excuses , just righteous revenge.

Brer'  posted on  2006-03-08   19:23:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Brer' (#6)

9-12...Aswan Dam

9-13...Medina and Mecca

no excuses , just righteous revenge.

Spoken like a true religionist--muslim or other--just take your revenge and call it righteous in the name of your god. Kill innocent people in the name of your god and call it righteous and when others kill innocent people in the name of their god you know in your heart you are better and your god is better and you are right and they are wrong, though to an outsider you appear morally just alike based on actions.

If you cannot condemn the killing of innocent iraqis i hope you would also not condemn an invading army should one ever come into america and kill innocent amercians---turn about's fair play unless you're a hypocrite doncha think?

fatidic  posted on  2006-03-08   23:34:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: fatidic (#7)

Kill innocent people

9-11 9-11

and whether the muslim scum rape ny daughter or kill 3000 of my people ....the bastards will pay and no sucking apologist will change that !

Period.

Brer'  posted on  2006-03-09   7:13:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Brer' (#8)

and whether the muslim scum rape ny daughter or kill 3000 of my people ....the bastards will pay and no sucking apologist will change that !

I love resolute men. But please explain how a "sucking" apologist is different from a regular apologist.

I am not gay.

Trace21231  posted on  2006-03-09   8:33:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Brer' (#8)

and whether the muslim scum rape ny daughter or kill 3000 of my people ....the bastards will pay and no sucking apologist will change that !

You write as one filled with anger and hate. Do you think killing people who did not commit the crimes you seek to avenge will make you feel better? What about killing black people in general because they are members of a high-crime intercity race? What about others seeking to kill you because americans have killed, raped, tortured, destroyed iraqis, many innocent children among them? Would you blame them or are you the only one allowed to seek indiscriminate revenge killings.

You have a very primitive mentality and do represent moral or lawful or connon sense points of view, i hope you realize. This should alarm you as your hate seeks to take over your life to your detriment. I hope i don't have you for a neighbor, ever.

fatidic  posted on  2006-03-09   9:55:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Brer' (#6)

They're lucky it was Boy Jorge and not me in the WH.

had you been president, 911 would never have happened. it was an inside job and bush knew. iraq had nothing to do with it nor did afghanistan.

christine  posted on  2006-03-09   11:21:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: fatidic (#10)

You have a very primitive mentality

Yep, goatherder. " BANG ! " Some call it a very sensitive bullshit detector with a low tolerance for same .

Brer'  posted on  2006-03-09   11:36:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Brer' (#12)

Some call it a very sensitive bullshit detector with a low tolerance for same .

Impossible 'cause you are full of bullshit as this is what comes out of you. You sling bullshit and pat yourself on the back and congratulate yourself on your barbarianism rather than debating facts/concepts. Your comebacks lack wit or wisdom and reveal a malignant ego which decency cannot penetrate at this time.

I have nothing more to say to you for you are determined to continue in ignorance and delusions and have nothing interesting or beneficial to offer this forum, IMO.

fatidic  posted on  2006-03-09   11:48:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: fatidic (#13)

Good!

Brer'  posted on  2006-03-09   13:28:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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