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Title: Part 4 - The Transition to a New Financial System Has Begun - 2008 Was Just a Warning
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URL Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo3F8GYVIPE
Published: Dec 28, 2017
Author: Staff
Post Date: 2017-12-28 17:51:48 by Horse
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#1. To: Horse (#0)

I think she's knowledgeable about a lot of financial issues, but she's not very knowledgeable of computers. She comes off -- to me -- a bit overly conspiratorial in implying that bitcoin is, at minimum, playing into the hands of the establishment, or at maximum, is being actively but covertly promoted by the establishment. It's clear to me that banks do not and never will like uncontrolled currency. Bitcoin and cryptocurrency does, I think, pose the greatest threat the traditional banking system has ever seen.

While it's certainly very possible governments will crypto-ize fiats like the USD and Euro, unless and until they can quash bitcoin AND other freelance cryptos coming up, it's just as likely that governments cryptoizing the USD will serve the opposite purpose of, in the minds of the public, emotionally legitimizing the freelance cryptos by implicitly certifying to the world that cryptocurrency can be a functional foundation for major economies.

Gold and silver are good and always will be. It will never be a bad time to have gold and silver.

She did say that we are witnessing history in action with regard to cryptocurrency. I do absolutely agree with that.

But it may not be bitcoin. The blockchain tech was a technological breakthrough, but it has serious drawbacks which subsequent developments greatly improve on. I expect in time bitcoin will be surpassed by one of the newer & younger cryptos.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-12-28   19:11:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Pinguinite (#1)

As always, thank you for your crypto-input on these matters.

We Luddites appreciate it.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2017-12-28   19:45:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Pinguinite (#1) (Edited)

it may not be bitcoin

Likely not bitcoin. There are other cryptocurrencies out there. ;)

www.coinbase.com/

And here is this article which the author and website owner says will "keep you ahead of the curve".

I’m Starting to Think the CIA Developed Bitcoin… But I Still Love It

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2017-12-28   20:08:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: BTP Holdings (#3)

With all their computing power, I'd bet on the NSA.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2017-12-28   21:25:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Lod, Pinguinite (#2)

She was very clear as was Catherine Austin Fitts. The latter said they need a little time to perfect cryptocurrencies. Hashgraph and/or Hyperledger will replace the block chain. And they will digitize commodities to get people to use them. Venezuela is digitizing oil. China can digitize gold. Peru and Mexico could digitize silver. Bitcoin will never become money because it is not widely held and its cost will bar entry. The Banks want to issue their own cryptos. South Korea and Japan use their own crypto to finance trade at a lower cost. The point is that the Dollar will die very soon. They want to replace it with a digital currency so they can track every move you make. No cash allowed. Besides, it is not a conspiracy of nutters is all she quotes is taken from the IMF, the FED and financiers.

The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie

Horse  posted on  2017-12-28   22:50:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Horse (#5)

It won't do governments and banks any good at all to "digitize" any commodity unless the public are willing to participate. And what does it mean to digitize oil, gold or silver? It means the same thing it does now. That is, you can spend US dollars to obtain shares of a commodity. The only difference is the nature of proof of ownership. One is a contract, and the other is an encrypted key.

That changes nothing in terms of economic change as you still need USD or some other currency to purchase the commodity.

Cryptocurrency is not a replacement for commodity contracts. It's a replacement of currency itself, the medium of exchange.

Bitcoin may not necessarily be destined to lose. It's possible the bitcoin coders could retrofit the blockchain backbone with Hashgraph. Since the bitcoin programming code is upgraded from time to time, drastic changes like that can't be ruled out. It might be hard, but at $15k per coin, they got a lot of incentive.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-12-29   0:34:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Pinguinite (#6)

but at $15k per coin, they got a lot of incentive.

How many bitcoins did the creator of bitcoin reserve for himself? Was it 1 million? Lots of incentive indeed. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2017-12-29   6:09:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: BTP Holdings (#7)

How many bitcoins did the creator of bitcoin reserve for himself? Was it 1 million? Lots of incentive indeed. ;)

There have only been about 5-6 million coins mined to date, out of a cap of 21 million. Though maybe the cap can be lifted with a hard fork (software upgrade) to the bitcoin software. I don't know.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-12-29   10:44:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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