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Title: Trump Suggests Withdrawing Troops From South Korea Over Trade Issues
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URL Source: https://news.antiwar.com/2018/03/15 ... south-korea-over-trade-issues/
Published: Mar 16, 2018
Author: Jason Ditz
Post Date: 2018-03-16 08:48:59 by Ada
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Views: 112
Comments: 21
Ties trade deficit to deployment costs in speech to donors President Trump’s Wednesday fundraiser in Missouri is raising eyebrows in the news, as he suggested to donors that he is considering withdrawing US troops from South Korea if he can’t get a better trade deal out of their government. Trump didn’t go into tremendous details about whether this meant a full withdrawal or a drawdown, and a lot of analysts were very dismissive of the report, suggesting it was an empty threat and just a negotiating tactic. Trump, however, is known to take trade deficits seriously, and directly ties those to the cost of having 32,000 US troops in South Korea, saying “we lose money on trade, and we lose money on the military.” During his 2016 campaign, Trump repeatedly expressed annoyance that the US was spending so much on its military to protect wealthy allies with big trade surpluses with the US. This clearly isn’t a new issue for him. Recent rapprochements with North Korea may also suggest this is a serious effort. South Korea has been very keen to get on a better footing with the North, and President Trump has agreed to meet North Korea’s Kim Jong-un. The Trump-Kim meeting would clearly benefit greatly if the US didn’t have 32,000 troops on North Korea’s border, as North Korea has often expressed concern that the US will attack them. Trump went on to declare to donors “our allies care about themselves. They don’t care about us.” South Korea has so far declined comment on the matter, with the exception of the Trade Ministry, which offered a dismissive declaration that they can’t “make comments every time President Trump” does.
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#1. To: Ada (#0)
Trump loves launching trial balloons.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Not a trial balloon. It is on the table and Trump is dealing direct with China. Not North Korea. Troops will come out, Kim will be denutted. the timing has to be agreed upon. If china does not follow thru, what will Trump do?????
T'would be the best thing to happen to SK and our garrison troops
The entire point of trial balloons is to learn to who shoots at them, and maybe, why they do so. Trump is very good at this. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
China wants us off the mainland, They will denut Kim in exchange. Should china renig after agreement, Trump will re-arm Japan with nukes.
Kim is no threat to us. Why should Trump offer China anything?
Why???? Kims grandfather started Korean war, in which I participated. That experience plus a good background in history and geo/politics gives one a realistic view on current events.
NK is no threat to us now and wasn't back in the day. Nukes are defensive weapons and Kim is sensible not to give them up.
WSJ Feb 28, 2018 - By John Bolton We have to know just how the Korean peninsula came to be divided. At the end of World War II, The Soviets came down the peninsula until they got to the 49th parallel. The hostilities ceased and Kim came to power. Many Koreans in the north fled south as quickly as possible. Such was the same in Vietnam, when Ho Chi Minh took over things in the North. ;) "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
Really?? Who crossed the 38th Parallel between North and South Korea back in 1950??? Anyway, I say it's time to bring the troops home and let South Korea either make peace with their Northern kinfolk and reunite the peninsula or shoulder the burden of separating the two Korea's. “With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group." Spot-on bump. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Past time. It should have been done in 1954. However, Trump has inherited a problem that has lasted for 60 years. Trump is making deals, not political showmanship. troops will come out, CHINA WILL GUARANTEE SAFETY OF SOUTH KOREA. we would be stupid to tell south Korea they are on their own. I have too many comrades still buried somewhere in Korea for that. China will guarantee integrity of South Korea. If they do not, trump will rearm Japan and allow them to have nukes. Remember China wants us gone off the Asian mainland, RUSSIA DOES NOT.
I get it now re: your recent question what does china want from us. Leave korea? It'd prolly become another chinese province without our presence there, both north and south.
Good question. I don't think either Truman or Stalin were anxious for war to break out. But as you know, Korea was divided after WWII--commies in the North and the US garrison troops in the South backing up the dictator, Rhee. As to who did in reality fire that shot, Bruce Cumings, head of the history department at the University of Chicago, gave us the definitive answer in his two-volume The Origins of the korean war, and The korean war: A History: the korean war started during the American occupation of the South, and it was Rhee, with help from his American sponsors, who initiated a series of attacks that well preceded the North korean offensive of 1950. From 1945- 1948, American forces aided Rhee in a killing spree that claimed tens of thousands of victims: the counterinsurgency campaign took a high toll in Kwangju, and on the island of Cheju-do – where as many as 60,000 people were murdered by Rhee’s US-backed forces.
What can you expect from the likes of John Bolton?
excellent.... They want us off the mainland and redraw our Pacific line from Bering Straits to northwest Australia. Our presence on the mainland is an irritation to China but RUSSIA LIKES IT. Our troops in South Korea is most of this deal, check a map, see what the rest of the deal will be?????? It is plain to see on a map. If China does not keep their word, Trump will rearm Japan and add nukes. Most interesting is this, "how is Trump dealing with Xi in china without the usual leakers"? Some way he is avoiding his enemies in government.
The aussies should be concerned, too.
The man's making all the right moves, Cyni. Either he's a genius or he's getting divine guidance.
They are and they have allowed us to open a Marine base in northwest Australia. Look at the map. Japan had to COME BY SEA TO AUSTRALIA. CHINA CAN WALK TO AUSTRALIA. Again look at the map, what is the remaining asset China wants very badly that Trump can give them???????
Why shouldn't there be a trade deficit with South Korea while the USAS-12 is still available. ;) www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2017/01/logan- metesh/obscure-object-desire-usas-12-automatic-shotgun/ "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
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#4. To: Cynicom, Ada, 4 (#2)
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#6. To: Cynicom (#5)
#7. To: Ada (#6)
Kim is no threat to us. Why should Trump offer China anything?
#8. To: Cynicom (#7)
#9. To: Ada (#8)
NK is no threat to us now and wasn't back in the day. Nukes are defensive weapons and Kim is sensible not to give them up.
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#10. To: Cynicom (#7)
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a good background in history
#11. To: Ada (#8)
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NK is no threat to us now and wasn't back in the day.
-Alex Kurtagic
#12. To: X-15 (#11)
I say it's time to bring the troops home and let South Korea either make peace with their Northern kinfolk and reunite the peninsula or shoulder the burden of separating the two Korea's.
#13. To: X-15, Lod (#11)
Anyway, I say it's time to bring the troops home
#14. To: Cynicom (#5)
#15. To: X-15 (#11)
Really?? Who crossed the 38th Parallel between North and South Korea back in 1950???
#16. To: hondo68 (#9)
The Legal Case for Striking North Korea First
#17. To: Obnoxicated (#14)
I get it now re: your recent question what does china want from us.
#18. To: Cynicom (#17)
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#20. To: Obnoxicated (#18)
The aussies should be concerned, too.
#21. To: Ada (#0)
trade deficit
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