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Title: Developing: California Pushes Bill That Appears To Ban Sale of Bibles
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URL Source: https://www.westernjournal.com/deve ... am&utm_content=western-journal
Published: Apr 20, 2018
Author: Randy DeSoto
Post Date: 2018-04-20 17:24:59 by BTP Holdings
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Views: 284
Comments: 6

Developing: California Pushes Bill That Appears To Ban Sale of Bibles

By Randy DeSoto

April 19, 2018 at 6:06pm

A new California pro-LGBTQ bill that would ban the sale or distribution of materials related to “conversion therapy” easily passed the state’s assembly on Thursday.

CBS News affiliate KOVR reported the final tally was 50-14. Assembly Bill 2943 now heads to the Democrat-controlled Senate.

The bill would make it an unlawful business practice to engage in any “transaction intended to result or that results in the sale or lease of goods or services to any consumer” aimed at “sexual orientation change efforts with an individual.”

Goods would include any books or written materials, while services would encompass counseling individuals seeking to address same-sex attractions.

According to the Los Angeles Times, “One key part of the debate centers on whether Assembly Bill 2943 would stretch beyond businesses that charge for (conversion) programs and extend to printed documents, even Bibles.”

The Bible clearly teaches that homosexual conduct is a sin and instructs Christians to abstain from it.

The Apostle Paul records that people he ministered to “were” homosexuals among other types of sinners, but they were transformed by the Spirit of God — through the renewing of their minds — into their new identities as born again children of God.

The Times reported that an analysis by the Assembly Judiciary Committee says the bill would apply only to services that purport to change a person’s sexual orientation and are offered “on a commercial basis, as well as the advertising and offering of such services.”

However, Randy Thomasson with SaveCalifornia.com told CBN News that the bill’s actual language is very broad and can easily be brought to bear on Christian ministries.

“So, this is a pastor speaking, you pay a ticket to hear him speak. He speaks about overcoming same-sex desires. Hey, that could be outlawed. A church sells a book about overcoming same-sex desires. There’s a sale, there’s a transaction, that could be banned,” Thomasson said.

“This is very expansive, very tyrannical and absolutely squashing free speech, religious freedom and basic choice of people. This is an anti-freedom, anti-American bill,” he added.

A basic freedom taken is the ability to seek the treatment of one’s own choice.

“AB 2943 would start by saying, ok, nobody can get counseling to overcome same-sex desires… ok, so no help for adult children, adults who were molested as kids and now they are adults and they say I want help to overcome these feelings. No help for you,” Thomasson explained.

Asked specifically about whether Bibles could be banned, Thomasson said it is entirely foreseeable that people might try to enforce the law in that manner.

“Well, you could see this law going into effect. A church bookstore selling the Bible, of course, selling a book about marriage or sexual purity or overcoming homosexuality or overcoming trans-sexuality. You could see a member of the public or even a member of the state government coming and saying, ‘Hey, that’s illegal,'” he stated.

The religious liberty group Alliance Defending Freedom released a legal memo in opposition to AB 2943 last month explaining why it likely does not pass constitutional muster regarding freedom of speech or the free exercise of religion.

“At its core, AB 2943 outlaws speech, whether offered by a licensed counselor, a best-selling author, or even a minister or religious leader,” the memo states.

“It targets a specific message—that an adult who is experiencing unwanted same-sex attraction or gender identity confusion can find help to address those issues—for censorship. The breadth of this censorship is staggering.”


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The Bible tells us that homosexuality is an abomination. I believe the Bible.

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#1. To: All (#0)

The fags in Chicago all had trouble with hemorrhoids. It just does not pay to be a butt blaster. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2018-04-20   17:28:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: BTP Holdings (#0)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2018-04-20   20:34:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: ghostdogtxn (#2)

Book banning. How fascist of them.

I do not think it was anything like the Nazis did. They were burning books such as those by Karl Marx.

I would say this thing with banning the Bible is more a Frist Amendment case since it violates freedom of religion.

The left coast has no morals and this borders on moral turpitude. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2018-04-20   20:49:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: BTP Holdings (#3)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2018-04-20   21:08:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: ghostdogtxn (#4)

These are all just different flavors of the same devil's brew. People think they know better than you how you should live, they acquire the authority to compel you to live as they think you should, a large number of people resist, and they are murdered en masse. California, if it was not part of the US, would quickly become a totalitarian murder state, IMO. They have no regard for freedom.

I think you are basically right about this. But there are some differences which you might not perceive. A closer study of history will show where this is true.

The Nazis used the Soviet Union as a place to provide training for its up and coming military which they were not allowed to have because of the Versailles Treaty. This did not stop Hitler from getting around it. However, National Socialism and Communism were ideological opposites.

We do, however, have the best system in the world right (for all its minor flaws) here in the good old U.S.A. The Bolsheviks and Communists wanted to bring the revolution right here to the shores of America. They nearly succeeded. Only the election of Trump has derailed the plans they had to destroy this nation. And sooner or later, the wheels of justice will grind over Obama and Hillary and all the others who wished to do harm to this Republic. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2018-04-21   4:53:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: ghostdogtxn (#4)

they acquire the authority to compel you to live as they think you should

A characteristic of bureaucrats under any 'ism.

Tatarewicz  posted on  2018-04-21   8:00:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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