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Title: George W. Bush touts 'dangers of isolation' as Trump pulls out of Iran deal
Source: MSN News
URL Source: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl ... eal/ar-AAx5SSo?ocid=spartandhp
Published: May 10, 2018
Author: By Javier De Diego and Alessia Grunberge
Post Date: 2018-05-11 01:11:32 by X-15
Keywords: Bush, Trump
Views: 1447
Comments: 17

Former President George W. Bush returned to Washington on Thursday night and touted a foreign policy view that directly contradicts President Donald Trump's "America First" rhetoric.

Bush's comments came after Trump's decision this week to pull out of the Iran nuclear deal, as well as his recent comment that US troops would be leaving Syria "relatively soon" and his continued efforts to build a wall on the southern border to keep immigrants from crossing illegally.

Bush spoke at an awards ceremony hosted by the Atlantic Council, a nonpartisan foreign policy think tank, which was honoring him with a Distinguished International Leadership Award for his work to eradicate HIV/AIDS in Africa. The Presidential Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief, which he started while in office and has continued to lead since leaving the White House, is credited with saving millions of lives across the African continent and helping to change the trajectory of the HIV/AIDS crisis around the world.

In explaining the importance of PEPFAR, Bush spoke about what he called "the dangers of isolation."

"America is indispensable for the world. The price of greatness is responsibility. One cannot rise to be in many ways the leading community in the civilized world without being involved in its problems, without being convulsed by its agonies and inspired by its causes," Bush said, invoking a speech by the legendary British Prime Minister Winston Churchill.

"If we are together, nothing is impossible. If we are divided, all will fail," he added, again quoting Churchill.

The former President, who recently lost his mother, former first lady Barbara Bush, thanked the public for its support and prayers. He said, "All is well with her soul. And all is well with ours."

Bush added that his father, former President George H.W. Bush, "misses mom" but his health is good. The 41st president had spent more than a week in the hospital with a blood-related infection after his wife's death.


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#6. To: X-15 (#0)

Bush spoke at an awards ceremony hosted by the Atlantic Council, a nonpartisan foreign policy think tank,

The Atlantic Council is NATO's "think tank".

Vanity: Russian Conspiracy Theory, CrowdStrike, and the Atlantic Counsel - freerepublic.com, 4/5/2017 | Excerpts:

The key to all of this is the Atlantic Council. The vehemently anti-russian think tank that Dr. Farkas is a senior fellow.

Most people think that the FBI analyzed the DNC servers and came to the conclusion based on their analysis that Russia hacked the DNC. That is not true. The DNC refused to let the FBI look at their servers. Instead the DNC hired a private company, Crowdstrike, to do an analysis of their servers. It was Crowdstrike that concluded that Russia hacked the DNC. They then turned over those findings to the FBI.

If this sounds incredibly shady its because it is. While private companies do such analysis its very odd that in a case where national security is involved that FBI/CIA analysts were not allowed to do their own analysis of the evidence.

So what do we know about Crowdstrike? Well Crowdstrike was founded by Dmitri Alperovitch, a Ukrainian National, who just like Dr. Farkas is a fellow at, you guessed it, Atlantic Council. Crow[d]strike also received major funding for the pro-Obama/Hillary folks at Google.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/01/06/dnc-russian-hacking-
conclusion-comes-google-linked-firm/

$100 million invested by Google into CrowdStrike:

https://www.crowdstrike.com/resources/crowdstrike-closes-100-million-financing-
round-led-google-capital/

The "17 intelligence agencies" that said Russians hacked the DNC relied solely on a report written by a private company to draw conclusions on the "Russian hacking." Is that reasonable?

So we have one senior fellow at this Atlantic think tank pushing for the administration to get and disseminate everything they can on a Trump/Russia connection and we have this other senior fellow at the Atlantic council Dmitri Alperovitch establishing the case that it was Russia that hacked the DNC.

can a company founded by a vehemently anti-Russian Ukrainian, who is a member of this vehemently anti-Russian think tank, be trusted to do a fair unbiased analysis when there is a question of Russian involvement?

Who else is a member of the Atlantic Council? Susan Rice.

Oh, and who funds the group? George Soros.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-13/george-soros-funded-think-tank-attacks-
disobedient-media-william-craddick-over-eu-co

Atlantic Council website:

http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/

GreyLmist  posted on  2018-05-12   13:49:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: GreyLmist (#6)

It is very simple to connect the dots and find out who is behind all of the intrigue we witness on a daily and weekly basis.

But you need to go back to 1933 and the Bankruptcy of the United States in order to find out how badly FDR screwed the common people and turned us all into debtors and debt slaves.

We may end up seeing a mass public hanging when the people rise up and throw out the banksters for their dastardly deeds. ;)

BTP Holdings  posted on  2018-05-12   14:12:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: BTP Holdings (#8) (Edited)

It is very simple to connect the dots and find out who is behind all of the intrigue we witness on a daily and weekly basis.

But you need to go back to 1933 and the Bankruptcy of the United States in order to find out how badly FDR screwed the common people and turned us all into debtors and debt slaves.

It's not necessary to overcomplicate this issue with all of that connected to a WWI Liberty Bond default here. NATO and the Atlantic Council didn't even exist that far back.

GreyLmist  posted on  2018-05-12   14:36:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: GreyLmist (#10) (Edited)

It's not necessary to overcomplicate this issue with all of that connected to a WWI Liberty Bond default here.

Liberty Bond default? Surely you jest.

Remember the words of FDR, "The United States is bankrupt and insolvent." That is hardly a default on Liberty Bonds.

Since the founding of the Federal Reserve in 1913 during the administration of Woodrow Wilson, the current national debt is $21,050,822,593,901.63.

It is long past time to find a tall tree and a short rope and hang the banksters. ;)

BTP Holdings  posted on  2018-05-12   16:03:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#14. To: BTP Holdings (#13)

Simply repudiating the fake debt and eliminating the fed would be best, imo.

Lod  posted on  2018-05-12 17:37:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: BTP Holdings (#13)

You @ #8: It is very simple to connect the dots and find out who is behind all of the intrigue we witness on a daily and weekly basis. But you need to go back to 1933 and the Bankruptcy of the United States in order to find out how badly FDR screwed the common people and turned us all into debtors and debt slaves.

Me @ #10: It's not necessary to overcomplicate this issue with all of that connected to a WWI Liberty Bond default here. NATO and the Atlantic Council didn't even exist that far back.

You @ #13: Liberty Bond default? Surely you jest. Remember the words of FDR, "The United States is bankrupt and insolvent." That is hardly a default on Liberty Bonds. Since the founding of the Federal Reserve in 1913 during the administration of Woodrow Wilson, the current national debt is $21,050,822,593,901.63.

Nope, not jesting. See 2013 posts #124 and #126 in reply to you @ 4um Title: Response To an E-mail and sender e-mail list. Those are just 2 examples of the numerous times through the years that I have discussed (with you and others) the panorama of issues within the Bankruptcy subject you linked above here. At that article, I think this sentence is most interesting: "The Federal Reserve Act stipulated that the interest on the debt was to be paid in gold." So was the Fourth Liberty Bond of massive war debts to be paid in gold around October of 1933 and soon thereafter. That, imo, is why America was taken off the gold standard when it was in June of 1933.


Liberty bond || Default of the Fourth Liberty Bond - Wikipedia, excerpts

A Liberty bond (or liberty loan) was a war bond that was sold in the United States to support the allied cause in World War I.

The first three Liberty bonds, and the Victory Loan, were retired during the course of the 1920s. However, because the terms of the bonds allowed them to be traded for the later bonds which had superior terms, most of the debt from the first, second, and third Liberty bonds was rolled into the fourth issue. As a result, the large majority of Liberty bond debt was still outstanding into the 1930s.

The fourth Liberty Bond had the following terms:

[...]

Callable Starting: October 15, 1933

Maturity Date: October 15, 1938

[...]

The terms of the bond included: "The principal and interest hereof are payable in United States gold coin of the present standard of value." This type of "gold clause" was common in both public and private contracts of the time, and was intended to guarantee that bond-holders would not be harmed by a devaluation of the currency.

However, when the US Treasury called the fourth bond on April 15, 1934, it defaulted on this term by refusing to redeem the bond in gold, and neither did it account for the devaluation of the dollar from $20.67 per troy ounce of gold (the 1918 standard of value) to $35 per ounce. The 21 million bond holders therefore lost 139 million troy ounces of gold, or approximately 41% of the bond's principal. This was the equivalent of $2.866 billion (in 1918 dollars), or approximately $220 billion at the 2012 price of $1600 per ounce. [Continued at the site.]


I have nothing further to add on that debt tangent in this topic.

GreyLmist  posted on  2018-05-13 06:37:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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