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Title: 4um has a New Sheriff
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Published: Jul 9, 2018
Author: Pinguinite
Post Date: 2018-07-10 00:22:39 by Pinguinite
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Views: 7409
Comments: 86

Actually the title isn't entirely true because I've technically been the sheriff for a number of months already, since I received the blessing directly from the royal Christine herself! But I'm going to start acting like one a bit more.

I've done this before so I've got the experience. I already expect half of you will disagree with me every time I do something and that's okay. Just know in advance that I'm going to decide things and do what I think is right for purposes that answer to my own inclinations and that I'll make no effort beyond which my own curiosity compels me to to listen to contrary opinions.

That said, no more "nigger" references on 4um. Does it offend me? No, but I'm not black so maybe it wouldn't. Does it offend others? Of course. Should it? In my opinion, probably not as much as it does. American culture has certainly demonized the term to a fanatical level, even more so than "shit" and "fuck" to the point where they usually bleep it not with a single asterisk, but four! Would it be better for both blacks and whites if the term wasn't treated with such strong negative reverence? I think so, yes. Is it my job, or the purpose of 4um, to correct American culture on this point? No, it isn't.

Here's the deal: As I'm in charge, I'm semi-responsible for content here. I'm also considering xferring 4um to my own server. As such, its content has the potential to reflect upon me personally. In fact, once it did. I am a software development freelancer and I was showing 4um to a potential client who wanted some web work. At one point, after 30-45 mins of positive discussion, shortly after I referred him to 4um, he suddenly cut off the phone conversation with no explanation and never called me back. My #1 guess is he saw something racial here and was offended and wrongly decided that what he saw was endorsed by me, even though I was only trying to show the technical capabilities of the site. So... someone writing something racial here really did hurt my livelihood. It hurt me personally, in the wallet.

On top of that, such references will discourage most new people from signing up here as most people are decent people, for the most part. And having more people sign up is a good thing, generally. And I won't expect everyone to have a perfect outlook on life to sign up. I don't want someone *overly* offended by the "nigger" word to be dissuaded from joining. The term won't attract new people, it will only push most people away, so I don't want it here. Period, end of story.

I'll make up new rules, and change them, sometimes quite unfairly and without rhyme or reason as we play the game, and I'll do so completely without apology. Thanks and enjoy your day.

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#5. To: Pinguinite (#0)

4um's one of the last bastions of truly free and civil speech online. If that means keeping it where it is, Ping, I beg you to do so. Not sure it will ever work as reference to clients even without that article?

The surge in activity since July 4 is phenomenal, despite or because of people's total frankness (and priceless humor) on the big hot-button issues. I count 22 regular participants and 12 occasionals just lately.

Thanks so much.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2018-07-10   2:19:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: NeoconsNailed (#5)

I agree with Ping. You're gonna have to learn to go with something more subtle. Should make for an interesting debate when he goes after the J-word, though. I'll stick around for that. :p

Obnoxicated  posted on  2018-07-10   9:03:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Obnoxicated, Lod, All (#12)

Should make for an interesting debate when he goes after the J-word, though. I'll stick around for that. :p

Obs...

"""Censorship is the suppression of speech, public communication, or other information, on the basis that such material is considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, or "inconvenient" as determined by government authorities.

Governments and private organizations may engage in censorship. Other groups or institutions may propose and petition for censorship. When an individual such as an author or other creator engages in censorship of their own works or speech, it is referred to as self-censorship.

Censorship could be direct or indirect, in which case it is referred to as soft censorship. It occurs in a variety of different media, including speech, books, music, films, and other arts, the press, radio, television,.... and the Internet for a variety of claimed reasons..... including national security, to control obscenity, child pornography, and hate speech, to protect children or other vulnerable groups, to promote or restrict political or religious views, and to prevent slander and libel.

Cynicom  posted on  2018-07-10   9:51:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Cynicom, Pinguinite (#18)

I like your cyclopaedia style definitions, but they don't cancel out the fact that banning the n-word on this forum is very much a tardy read guard action - a well meaning but vain attempt to make this a more tasteful or marketable internet outlet.

I gotta say that while there have been long stretches of civil discussion on and off, it's been very screechy here for a real long time. Like for the last dozen years. But given the current climate, the back and forth is likely to become even more strident. So lots of luck.

It ain't just the rhetoric. Here and elsewhere, it's going to get more ugly rather than less as the situation on the ground gets more and more physical.

randge  posted on  2018-07-10   12:05:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: randge, All (#24)

banning the n-word on this forum is very much a tardy read guard action - a well meaning but vain attempt to make this a more tasteful or marketable internet outlet.

As part kike, I could take great offense at the writings of more than a few denizens here.

I also find no problem of reading about, WHITEY HONKY REDNECK CRACKER, RUBE AND HILL BILLY, all of which apply.

Going down the road of censorship, because of good intentions and political correctness, has brought about the current social fabric of this country.

Cynicom  posted on  2018-07-10   13:52:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#34. To: Cynicom (#33)

I also find no problem of reading about, WHITEY HONKY REDNECK CRACKER, RUBE AND HILL BILLY, all of which apply.

Going down the road of censorship, because of good intentions and political correctness, has brought about the current social fabric of this country.

Nicely said.

Lod  posted on  2018-07-10 15:12:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Cynicom (#33)

Going down the road of censorship, because of good intentions and political correctness, has brought about the current social fabric of this country.

Even more disconcerting, to say the least, is that there was a Dollar Bill involved.

Rotara  posted on  2018-07-10 15:23:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Cynicom (#33)

I also find no problem of reading about, WHITEY HONKY REDNECK CRACKER, RUBE AND HILL BILLY, all of which apply.

Yes sir, I have borne some of thse words and borne them with some patience because, considering the source, it's almost impossible to insult me. Those as must resort to epithet aren't worth my time.

Now if a man shows that he will hurt me, I will be the first to deliver. That is a different piece of business entirely.

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