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Title: 4um has a New Sheriff
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Published: Jul 9, 2018
Author: Pinguinite
Post Date: 2018-07-10 00:22:39 by Pinguinite
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Views: 7298
Comments: 86

Actually the title isn't entirely true because I've technically been the sheriff for a number of months already, since I received the blessing directly from the royal Christine herself! But I'm going to start acting like one a bit more.

I've done this before so I've got the experience. I already expect half of you will disagree with me every time I do something and that's okay. Just know in advance that I'm going to decide things and do what I think is right for purposes that answer to my own inclinations and that I'll make no effort beyond which my own curiosity compels me to to listen to contrary opinions.

That said, no more "nigger" references on 4um. Does it offend me? No, but I'm not black so maybe it wouldn't. Does it offend others? Of course. Should it? In my opinion, probably not as much as it does. American culture has certainly demonized the term to a fanatical level, even more so than "shit" and "fuck" to the point where they usually bleep it not with a single asterisk, but four! Would it be better for both blacks and whites if the term wasn't treated with such strong negative reverence? I think so, yes. Is it my job, or the purpose of 4um, to correct American culture on this point? No, it isn't.

Here's the deal: As I'm in charge, I'm semi-responsible for content here. I'm also considering xferring 4um to my own server. As such, its content has the potential to reflect upon me personally. In fact, once it did. I am a software development freelancer and I was showing 4um to a potential client who wanted some web work. At one point, after 30-45 mins of positive discussion, shortly after I referred him to 4um, he suddenly cut off the phone conversation with no explanation and never called me back. My #1 guess is he saw something racial here and was offended and wrongly decided that what he saw was endorsed by me, even though I was only trying to show the technical capabilities of the site. So... someone writing something racial here really did hurt my livelihood. It hurt me personally, in the wallet.

On top of that, such references will discourage most new people from signing up here as most people are decent people, for the most part. And having more people sign up is a good thing, generally. And I won't expect everyone to have a perfect outlook on life to sign up. I don't want someone *overly* offended by the "nigger" word to be dissuaded from joining. The term won't attract new people, it will only push most people away, so I don't want it here. Period, end of story.

I'll make up new rules, and change them, sometimes quite unfairly and without rhyme or reason as we play the game, and I'll do so completely without apology. Thanks and enjoy your day.

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#30. To: sneakypete (#15)

"Stormers." SPLC boogymen.

Obnoxicated  posted on  2018-07-10   13:38:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Pinguinite (#0)

Yellow Bullet has LOTS of commercial sponsors and the sub-forums "Trash or Be Trashed" and "The Political Corner" are uncensored. Just an FYI, and it's a very public hotrod forum.

www.yellowbullet.com/forum/inde x.php

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2018-07-10   13:41:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Cynicom (#18)

Whelp, it's Neil's forum, so I'll respect his rules. It's his sandbox. I'm just an amused observer.

Obnoxicated  posted on  2018-07-10   13:46:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: randge, All (#24)

banning the n-word on this forum is very much a tardy read guard action - a well meaning but vain attempt to make this a more tasteful or marketable internet outlet.

As part kike, I could take great offense at the writings of more than a few denizens here.

I also find no problem of reading about, WHITEY HONKY REDNECK CRACKER, RUBE AND HILL BILLY, all of which apply.

Going down the road of censorship, because of good intentions and political correctness, has brought about the current social fabric of this country.

Cynicom  posted on  2018-07-10   13:52:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Cynicom (#33)

I also find no problem of reading about, WHITEY HONKY REDNECK CRACKER, RUBE AND HILL BILLY, all of which apply.

Going down the road of censorship, because of good intentions and political correctness, has brought about the current social fabric of this country.

Nicely said.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2018-07-10   15:12:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Cynicom (#33)

Going down the road of censorship, because of good intentions and political correctness, has brought about the current social fabric of this country.

Even more disconcerting, to say the least, is that there was a Dollar Bill involved.


"Define yourself as one beloved by God. This is the true self. Every other identity is illusion."—Brennan Manning

Rotara  posted on  2018-07-10   15:23:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Rotara (#35) (Edited)

Even more disconcerting, to say the least, is that there was a Dollar Bill involved.

Yup, that's where it starts. 30 pieces of silver.

And how we've arrived at this point.

Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes the laws.

Ricky  posted on  2018-07-10   16:01:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Lod (#20)

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-07-10   16:21:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Cynicom (#33)

I also find no problem of reading about, WHITEY HONKY REDNECK CRACKER, RUBE AND HILL BILLY, all of which apply.

Yes sir, I have borne some of thse words and borne them with some patience because, considering the source, it's almost impossible to insult me. Those as must resort to epithet aren't worth my time.

Now if a man shows that he will hurt me, I will be the first to deliver. That is a different piece of business entirely.

Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded. - James Madison

randge  posted on  2018-07-10   16:22:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: FormerLurker (#21)

I'm reporting you for using those offensive words...

LOL!

I shall sanction myself..... later.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-07-10   16:22:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: FormerLurker (#22)

The bone structure and skulls are physically different, it's not just a matter of skin color.

I'm not sure if I ever fell for the idea that racial differences between white and black was only in regards to hair and skin color. It defies logic to suggest that is the only notable DNA difference. In the US, I'm average height & weight for a guy. Here, I'm the probably equivalent of 6'2" among the natives, and among the indigenous, I'm closer to 6'8".

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-07-10   16:26:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: FormerLurker (#23)

As far as the origin of the "N" word, I think it's because many of the slaves were from the African country named Niger, so they were called that because they came from there.

Perhaps the world maps should be revised to spell the country "N***r". LOL.

Perhaps you are right. Or perhaps the country was named by Spaniards or Portuguese for the color to reflect the people they found.

No idea. It seems likely the term and the country name are related somehow. I do find tidbits of language history interesting.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-07-10   16:30:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Pinguinite (#37)

Great! that showed the nice bone/fork in their logo.

Guessing that the food is wonderful there.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2018-07-10   16:32:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: randge (#24)

I like your cyclopaedia style definitions, but they don't cancel out the fact that banning the n-word on this forum is very much a tardy read guard action - a well meaning but vain attempt to make this a more tasteful or marketable internet outlet.

I think it will make it more tasteful for the vast majority of visitors. As I see it, it's not what you or I think of the term, it's what the average American thinks of it. And the average American considers this happenstance arrangement of 6 letters, all of which, believe it or not, can be found in probably every chapter of the Bible, repugnant.

It ain't just the rhetoric. Here and elsewhere, it's going to get more ugly rather than less as the situation on the ground gets more and more physical.

I am all for people becoming more mature about who and what we are. Political Correctness have been around for what, 15 years or more now. Regretably, it didn't fad into oblivion like so many other fads.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-07-10   16:36:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Pinguinite, FL, truth seekers, 4 (#41)

from algore's interweb

Niger River, principal river of western Africa. With a length of 2,600 miles (4,200 km), it is the third longest river in Africa, after the Nile and the Congo. The Niger is believed to have been named by the Greeks.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I had no clue the Greeks made it to Africa.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2018-07-10   16:37:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Lod (#42)

Guessing that the food is wonderful there.

I stop in there on rare occasion. For a fast food chain it's half decent.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-07-10   16:37:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Lod (#44)

I had no clue the Greeks made it to Africa.

That far? No I didn't either. They did make it to Alexandria, Egypt, I believe, named for Alexander the Great.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-07-10   16:39:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Rotara (#26)

Neil, you just took the Freedom out of 4um, as much I detest certain language such as your first salvo at censorship.

Thanks for the opinion. I would compare it to cleaning up the house a bit before inviting guests over. Sure you could leave your dirty underwear in the kitchen, but if you do, people will see that and just get the wrong impression.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-07-10   16:42:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Pinguinite (#46)

They did make it to Alexandria, Egypt, I believe, named for Alexander the Great.

Oops, that one fell outta my memory bank. Good catch.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2018-07-10   16:46:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: hondo68 (#3)

Nazis and students burn books on a huge bonfire of 'anti-German' literature in the Opernplatz, Berlin, in 1933.

Do you know which books were being burned by the Nazis? ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2018-07-10   16:49:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: X-15 (#29)

but the mere mention of the word "nigger" is going to push them over the edge??

But it DOES. That's the amazing thing.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-07-10   16:49:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Ricky (#36)

Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes the laws.

Censorship over hurtful words is debatable – but speech censorship over a buck is wrong.

johnj  posted on  2018-07-10   16:56:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: X-15, All (#29)

The faggots/illegal mestizos/communists, already foaming at their mouths, scream obscenities 24/7/365 about White people/Christians/et al but the mere mention of the word "nigger" is going to push them over the edge??

Your point of attention seems to have been lost on some present.

It is indeed Pings sandbox. When one person decides to...censor... ONLY SELECTED WORDS OR TERMS... then freedom of speech is gone.

Decision is his, censor ALL hurtful or offensive words or get out of the censoring business.

I and another part Kike were thrown out of Robbersons den for protesting his censoring people for anti-semetic remarks.

At 86 its time I moved on as I am too olde to bow to censorship and political correctness.

Cynicom  posted on  2018-07-10   17:33:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Cynicom, Pinguinite, 4um (#52)

Well, this half Irish-Scottish Redneck - half German Jew; full-on Child of God by grace through faith in Jesus Christ... married to a Negra with a mulatta child... remembers all too well how the agenda at Freeperville turned that place into a Zionist censorship crap-hole of what I consider a den of Zionist World Order bloodthirsty statists.

I stopped posting at faceberg and all of their subsidiaries as well because they simply promote statism and of the Zionist World Empire flavor.

That's the next stop on this slope; the offended will be coming out of the wordwork and freedom of speech will simply stop to exist here as it did on ALL the other stops along the way.

I am heading back to part-part-time lurker mode myself.

It was good chatting with yall one last time. If anyone wants to stay in touch you can raise me at PanamaKent.com and/or my newest online home on Steemit @panamakent

God's speed to all of you. Each, and every, one of you. 🙏🏽🌎❤️✌🏻


"Define yourself as one beloved by God. This is the true self. Every other identity is illusion."—Brennan Manning

Rotara  posted on  2018-07-10   17:53:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Rotara, All (#53)

It was good chatting with yall one last time.

Good time for me to shuffle off also.

Hope you and rest of my friends have a fair sailing wind the rest of your days.

Cynicom  posted on  2018-07-10   18:15:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Pinguinite (#46)

I had no clue the Greeks made it to Africa.

That far? No I didn't either. They did make it to Alexandria, Egypt, I believe, named for Alexander the Great.

For sure. Egypt was just a stone's throw over the Mediterranean. The Greek learned the idea of the Pythagorean principle from the Egyptians. The story of Atlantis was passed on by Solon who learned it from Egyptian priests. Herodotus wrote extensively on the culture and history of Egypt.

The English name of the place comes from Greek: "Aigyptos." (Hwt- ka-Ptah (ḥwt-ka-ptḥ), meaning "home of the ka (soul) of Ptah", the name of a temple to the god Ptah at Memphis. - Arabisch.nu) The Egyptian called their land "Kemit."

The last dynasty of Ancient Egypt was Greek as was the last pharaoh, Cleopatra.

So yeah, these folks were well acquainted with one another, but the average Greek didn't vacation at Giza way back when.

Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded. - James Madison

randge  posted on  2018-07-10   18:17:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: BTP Holdings (#49)

Do you know which books were being burned by the Nazis? ;)

Encyclopedias, some black kid misspelled Niger on his 'puter, so the Nazis started burning? They're very politically correct you know. Then whitey had to pay reparations.


Encyclopedia User Sues Over Word

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS (1995)

A man who says he was offended by the ability of a CD-ROM encyclopedia to find racial slurs in its own text has sued the encyclopedia's publisher in Federal District Court in Los Angeles for $40 million.

The plaintiff, Thomas D. Wallace of Omaha, says he and his sons suffered emotional distress after finding the word "nigger" in the Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia, published by Compton's Newmedia of Carlsbad, Calif. The suit also names Compton's owner, the Tribune Company of Chicago, and Best Buy, the store that sold Mr. Wallace the software.

Mr. Wallace, who is black, said he discovered the slur when he inadvertently typed "nigger" while searching for references to the Niger River. In response, the computer found references under "Drama," "Martin Luther King Jr.," "Black Americans or African Americans" and "English Literature."

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hondo68  posted on  2018-07-10   18:40:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: FormerLurker (#23)

I remember seeing an interview on CNN I think where a person by that name was being asked a question, and the interviewer mispronounced his name by pronouncing it as if it had two g's..

You are probably thinking of Niger Innis. A very bright guy that has a tough time getting on the air. Haven't seen him on tv in years. For all I know he may have given up.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-07-10   19:11:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Obnoxicated (#30)

"Stormers." SPLC boogymen.

Let's see,who am I going to believe,my lying eyes,or your absurd claim?

Decisions,decisions!

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-07-10   19:14:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Pinguinite (#43)

I am all for people becoming more mature about who and what we are. Political Correctness have been around for what, 15 years or more now.

Huh? It's been around ever since the first election.

Nothing changes but the target and who gets the money.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-07-10   19:18:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: hondo68 (#56)

Mr. Wallace, who is black, said he discovered the slur when he inadvertently typed "nigger" while searching for references to the Niger River.

Oh,yeah! Accidentally,huh?

Hey! I believe it!

Honest!

A multi-million dollar lawsuit never once entered his mind!

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-07-10   19:23:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Pinguinite (#40)

differences between white and black was only in regards to hair and skin color

When I lived in Illinois I saw some albino blacks at Cub Foods. They were weird looking critters. :-O

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2018-07-10   20:04:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Cynicom, Rotara (#54)

I'm sad to see you go; your thoughts, comments, and insights will be sorely missed.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2018-07-10   20:25:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Pinguinite (#47)

I just knew this thread would be the most attended as soon as I read the first post. I chose to leave it to y'all since I don't have a dog in the debate ....

Carry on Christian soldiers !

Ephesians 5:11King James Version (KJV)

11 "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. "

It's not terrorism when Amerika does it.

noone222  posted on  2018-07-10   20:31:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Cynicom (#54)

Good time for me to shuffle off also.

Hope you and rest of my friends have a fair sailing wind the rest of your days.

Sorry to see you go, Cyni. I will miss your insight and witty comments. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2018-07-10   20:41:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Cynicom (#54)

Please reconsider and stick around for a while longer, the Trump Era is most likely to be very interesting.

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

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X-15  posted on  2018-07-10   21:20:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Pinguinite (#50)

Jackie Chan is great in that flick. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2018-07-10   21:22:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: sneakypete (#58)

It is what it is. David Duke is in the splc's pocket.

Obnoxicated  posted on  2018-07-10   22:44:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: sneakypete (#57)

You are probably thinking of Niger Innis.

Yep, he's the one.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2018-07-10   23:25:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Pinguinite (#0)

How is christine doing? Send her and her hubby my regards.

Thanks.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2018-07-10   23:33:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Cynicom, Rotara, christine, 4 (#54)

It was good chatting with yall one last time.

Good time for me to shuffle off also.

Hope you and rest of my friends have a fair sailing wind the rest of your days.

Wait! Don't go. I was planning to invite everyone to a Dance Party for christine's birthday but didn't get around to it then. I think you, especially, won't want to miss this, Cyni -- knowing, as I do, how highly you've rated Trey Gowdy politically before and here he is now:

Trey Gowdy and Kelly McConaghy (2009) - YouTube, 2.25 minutes

Published on Mar 31, 2009

[Jitterbug] Dancing with the Spartanburg Stars 2009

Did you see that hand signal he made at the start, Cyni? I wanted to get your opinion on if it might be like a geopolitical communication about China or something.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

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