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Title: Hungary Emerging as Protector of Persecuted Christians Around the Globe
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URL Source: https://russia-insider.com/en/hunga ... hristians-around-globe/ri24601
Published: Aug 30, 2018
Author: Dr. Stephen Turley
Post Date: 2018-08-30 10:40:59 by Ada
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Views: 606
Comments: 6

Another interesting video from Dr. Stephen Turley.

We came across Turley recently and find him interesting because his basic argument is that there is a worldwide turn to conservative values, traditionalism, and nationalism, in the US, Eastern Europe, the EU, Russia, the Middle East, Africa, South America - in fact, all continents, and that this change is being driven by the loosening of the liberal, globalist grip on information flow due to technology. You can see all his articles on RI here.

Turley is a theology, Greek, and rhetoric teacher in the booming classical education movement, which is predominantly conservative. He is a former Protestant from Connecticut who converted to Orthodoxy.

He hosts a rapidly growing YouTube broadcast about these trends from a conservative viewpoint.

Transcript:

The nation of Hungary has announced its official policy to stand with and protect persecuted Christians around the world.

Breitbart News had an excellent and very informative interview with the Hungarian Minister of Foreign Affairs Peter Szijjarto who outlined the top priorities for Hungarian foreign policy and financial assistance, and you will notice how radically different it sounds from the goals of globalist leaders.

Szijjarto argued that Hungary is first and foremost a Christian nation, and as such, it is going to prioritize helping persecuted Christians around the world. He of course is referencing particularly Middle East Christians who have been the victims of some of the most horrific violence imaginable, especially by ISIS.

By the way, ISIS has been so effectively neutralized, defeated and destroyed I am thankful to say. You know who has been responsible for that defeat and destruction of ISIS? It is the result of a joint effort between Russia and the United States. What do you know? Our media loves to talk about the great things that can happen when these two powers join together in a common purpose …

Szijjarto expressed his frustration with Brussels and the EU in that, whenever he has brought up the special responsibility that Europeans have to persecuted Christians in the Middle East and around the world, Eurocrats just look at him and basically say, Uh, no, we need to show that we are tolerant and that we do not favor any particular religion. Of course, in order to show how tolerant they are, they show favoritism to Muslims. Figure that one out!

Actually, there is a reason for why these Eurocrats show favoritism to Islam over Christianity. What we have to understand is that under globalization, I wish I could say that the problem is ONLY that these Eurocrats consider Islam every bit as valid as Christianity. I wish I could say that was the worst of it.

In one sense, that IS the case, globalists do in fact see Islam and Christianity has equally valid religious belief systems, since globalization by definition sees all religions as equally valid. There is no basis, no standard of evaluation within the rationale of globalization that can differentiate the legitimacy of one religion over against another. They are all equally valid expressions of sovereign individuals. Globalization relativizes all religions to the individual, as a matter of individual choice, and quite literally leaves it at that at least at one level.

However it gets even worse. At another level, globalization breeds political correctness. What globalization basically does is it eclipses localized customs, traditions, languages, and religions with a one-size-fits-all consumer-based value system.

So whereas different localities used to be characterized by different cultural symbols and practices, globalization comes in and starts getting rid of all of the unique identity markers of particular localities and replaces them with highly standardized, mechanized, franchises at both the economic and political levels, so that downtown Tokyo looks almost exactly the same as downtown Manhattan in Times Square; the same stores, same corporations, same fast food restaurants, same movies, and the like. …………….

What political correctness begins to do is it begins to view all those historic customs and traditions that globalism is replacing, as outdated, exclusionary, and unnecessarily intolerant.

Our traditions and customs often stand against things that our new consumer-based cultures think are perfectly natural and normal.

You see, political correctness begins to see our historic cultures and customs and traditions as discriminatory and intolerant and unjust; in other words, political correctness does not exclude against the dominant culture simply because a new set of globalizing economic processes has eclipsed it; as far as political correctness is concerned, the dominant culture is being excluded because it is racist, homophobic, bigoted, colonialist, or what have you.

Political correctness therefore takes the opportunity afforded to it by the economic eclipsing processes of globalism to in fact welcome into the public square or into the marketplace cultures, lifestyles, races, genders, sexual orientations, and YES RELIGIONS that are now considered to have been oppressed and disenfranchised by the dominant culture.

This turns into our new sense of justice; it is technically known as emancipatory politics, this notion that it is always good, always, to show favoritism to whatever minority group Western civilization has supposedly persecuted. And of course, in the West, that persecuted minority religiously speaking would be Muslims, certainly not Christians.

And so, in the name of being just in the politically correct sense, our elites are even more concerned with the rights and privileges of Muslims than they are with Christians. Or with immigrants than they are with citizens. Can anyone say Tommy Robinson?

This is what makes nations like Hungary and many others like Poland, Slovakia, nationalist Austria and Italy, and yes, indeed, Russia, so wonderful; in standing up for persecuted Christians in the Middle East, these nations are in fact rejecting this whole notion of political correctness. They are rejecting it out of hand in the name of solidarity and alliance with those who are an integral part of the religious traditions and customs that define our nations and common civilization.

Make no mistake, in standing FOR Christians, Hungary is standing AGAINST globalization and its politically correct redefinition of justice and equity.

Now one last thing here; we have looked at the Hungarian prime-minister Viktor Orban’s vision for a Christian democracy in detail in a past; Orban, in his speeches of late, has argued that Hungary is in the midst of building what he calls a ‘Christian democracy’ as over against the secular globalist vision of the EU; and we outlined four features of what a Christian democracy looks like as derived from Viktor Orban’s speeches.

The first feature was that church and state work together to protect a nation’s customs, culture, and tradition as they are rooted in a distinctively Christian vision of life; so we are not talking about a theocracy here; we are talking about church and state working together.

The second feature is stringent border security that protects the Christianity that is protecting the culture; so as we are seeing here with Hungary’s concern for persecuted minorities, they have actually expedited the ability of Christian refugees to come into Hungary. Hungary is not anti-immigrant per se, it is anti-immigration on globalist terms.

That is what the BBC always likes to leave out in its coverage of Hungary; so you can come into the nation as an immigrant no problem, but you have to affirm the Christian culture and institutions that are central to thier national identity; so border security is an essential feature of Christian Democracy.

The third feature is some form of economic nationalism that guards against the narcissistic consumerist values that can undermine a culture from within.

And the fourth feature involves placing a priority on the traditional family as the basis for a flourishing national future. We have seen how Hungary has been able to effectively reverse its population decline with the institution of pro-family measures.

Now we are seeing a fifth feature emerge, and that is what we might call a post-secular international relations feature, where Hungary, as a Christian democracy, will prioritize alliances with and financial aid to nations that share a common commitment to the traditional values, culture, and customs that undergird a distinctively Christian vision of life.

What is interesting here is that international relations, what is often referred to as IR, is a notoriously, absolutely notoriously secular enterprise. Religion is irrelevant in the various schools of international relations. However what we are seeing from the likes of Hungary is the emergence of a distinctively post-secular international relations, where a Christian nation is formally declaring alliance-priorities with other Christian groups around the world, in this case, in terms of protection and advocacy for persecuted Christians.

And so, Hungary just continues to show us what a new conservative age more and more looks like as it stands for nation, custom, and tradition in an increasingly post-secular, post-globalist world.

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#1. To: Ada (#0)

Great article and information, Hungary bump.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2018-08-30   15:16:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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How Hungary Cut Illegal Immigration By Over 99% - YouTube, 14.75 minutes

Published on Nov 5, 2017 by Brittany Pettibone

Breitbart Article: Hungary Builds a Wall, Cuts Illegal Immigration by Over 99 Per Cent | 16 Sep 2017

[Notes: @ approx. 5:00 immigration mess started in 2014 ; a two-line fence that is also the border of the EU ; 4,000 town residents and 10,000 migrants arrived every day ; migrants with more money than Hungarians ; migration biggest International business for the Mafia - a crime ; politicians criminals who cooperate with the International Mafia]


Viktor Orban - Guardian of Hungary - YouTube, 3.25

Published on Jun 11, 2015 by St. Constantine

A tribute to Prime Minister Orban Viktor of Hungary, defender of all nation states in the EU.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2018-09-20   4:55:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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Viktor Orban - Guardian of Hungary - YouTube, 3.25

Published on Jun 11, 2015 by St. Constantine

A tribute to Prime Minister Orban Viktor of Hungary, defender of all nation states in the EU.


Archives:


Viktor Orban vs. EU Parliament: Hungary Takes a Stand!!! - YouTube, 9.5 minutes

Published on Sep 13, 2018 by Dr. Steve Turley

Here's why the EU's attempt to punish Hungary will only backfire and elect more nationalists!!!

[Notes: 0:38 EU Article 7 process against Hungary - could lose its EU voting rights ; @ 1:12 Sargentini Report ; @ 5:19 Article 7 against Poland ; @ 8:52 In the name of Democracy, Brussels is demanding the right to dictate].


Orban and Farage stand up to George Soros and his EU Parliament cronies - YouTube, 13 minutes

Published on Sep 12, 2018 by The Duran

Viktor Orban tells EU parliament: 'Hungary will not be blackmailed!'

Farage had a clear message for Orban and Hungary: "Come and join the Brexit Club, you'll love it!"

[Notes: Commentary to 2:24 | Farage Speech to 5:00 | Orban Speech to 12:58

Article 7 ; Farage: EU just updating the Brezhnev Doctrine of Limited Soveriegnty ; Junker and Tusk, the two unelected EU bureaucrats]


Nigel Farage destroys Eurocrats at the 'show trial' of Viktor Orban - YouTube, 2.75 minutes

Published on Sep 11, 2018 by europarl

• European Parliament, Strasbourg, 11 September 2018
http://www.ukipmeps.org | http://www.ukip.org


Hungary's Viktor Orban accuses EU of 'abuse of power' - YouTube, 8 minutes

Published on Sep 11, 2018 by ProductiehuisEU

Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban has told European Parliament that Brussels' actions against Budapest "violates the EU treaty."

Under pressure from the European Union Commission, Orban is facing a vote that could see Hungary lose its voting rights in the bloc for undercutting democracy and EU core values.

Orban said:

- "I stand here in front of you and I defend my country because, for Hungarians, liberty democracy independence and Europe are matters of honor."

- "What you are doing here is a slap in the face of the Union"

- "We have defended Hungary, and we have defended Europe."

- "We have a different picture about the nature of Christianity in Europe and the role of nations and cultures in our country."

Video (dubbed) in English.

[Noting that he also said: the EU report contains 37 serious factual misrepresentations of which we sent a document of 108 pages to every member of this house. ... This report is a breach of agreements made years ago. ... This is the first case in the history of Europe when a community condemns its own border guards.

Comments: "Independent" is the EU'S word for globalist oligarch-control. ; what is wrong with the EU. It has no respect for national sovereignty nor democracy. The only sovereignty allowed to member states is what the EU decides to permit. Long Live Hungary, a bastion against socialist dictatorship.]


"Hungary will not be a country of migrants" - Viktor Orban's scathing address to European Parliament - YouTube, 13:00

Published on Sep 12, 2018 by Oppressed Media

Viktor Orban rebukes the European parliament on Sept 11, 2018 before they vote to sanction Hungary for its "illiberal" policies.

[Notes: Onscreen introductory-text to 0:24 on the Article 7/EU Sanctions and Voting Rights issues ; @ 10:33-13:06 Onscreen text re: Hungarian history + celebration footage ; Victor Orban welcomes everybody to the ceremony of Freedom.]

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2018-09-20   13:02:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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[Expletives, etc.] Guy Verhofstadt Calls For US "Intervention" In Hungary | The Authoritarian EU | George Soros - YouTube, 19.5 minutes [Regime change pitch? This link set to start for a 2-minute segment @ 10:41-12:40.]

Published on Sep 28, 2018 by The Iconoclast

CNN Article

[Hungary is a threat to international order. The US must act -- now by Guy Verhofstadt | Updated September 12, 2018 | Excerpt: In the coming weeks and months, the international community -- and the United States in particular -- must heed our warning and act: Hungary's government is a threat to the rules-based international order. European governments and the US have a moral obligation to intervene. We cannot stand aside and let populist, far-right governments ...]

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/09/12/op...


Open Society Allies In EU Document

https://legacy.gscdn.nl/archives/imag...

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2018-10-04   14:11:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: All (#4) (Edited)

CNN Article

Hungary is a threat to international order. The US must act -- now by Guy Verhofstadt | Updated September 12, 2018 | Annotated Excerpts:

rhetoric similar to that used by the former leader of the United Kingdom Independence Party, Nigel Farage, ... about mass migration during the Brexit referendum has been deployed across Hungary, seemingly [with the sole aim of whipping up racial tension and hostility to migrants to oppose that] -- and to [demonize oppose] George Soros, ... In the coming weeks and months, the international community -- and the United States in particular -- must heed our warning and act: Hungary's government is a threat to the rules-based international order. European governments and the US have a moral obligation to intervene. We cannot stand aside and let populist, far-right governments ...

Editor's Note: Guy Verhofstadt, a former Belgian prime minister, is president of the Alliance of Liberals and Democrats for Europe Group (ALDE) in the [EU] European Parliament. The opinions in this article are those of the author.


Cold War Flashback: regarding the U.S. policy of non-interventionism in Hungary on far more serious issues than Verhofstadt's screed, cited above, for American reinforcements of his Pro-Soros protectionism + the UN&EU domination agenda to obliterate Europe by "Internationalizing" it with continuous invasions of foreign migration.

Dwight D. Eisenhower: the 34th President of the United States from 1953 to 1961. During World War II, he was a five-star general in the United States Army and served as Supreme Commander of the Allied Expeditionary Forces in Europe. ... During the Suez Crisis of 1956, Eisenhower condemned the Israeli, British and French invasion of Egypt, and he forced them to withdraw. He also condemned the Soviet invasion during the Hungarian Revolution of 1956 but took no action.


It would be more correct to say that, because of the Suez Crisis [29 October 1956 – 7 November 1956], Eisenhower took no Military intervention actions to support the Hungarian Revolution [23 October – 10 November 1956] and didn't even arm the fighters with weapons against the Soviets, but reportedly did send them a humanitarian shipment of powdered milk. [Ref. 1.75 minute YouTube segment @ 1:08:24-1:10:08]

@ the Suez Ref. - Between July and October 1956, unsuccessful initiatives encouraged by the United States were made to reduce the tension that would ultimately lead to war. International conferences were organised to secure agreement on Suez Canal operations but all were ultimately fruitless.

@ the Hungarian Ref. - Although John Foster Dulles, the United States Secretary of State recommended on 24 October for the United Nations Security Council to convene to discuss the situation in Hungary, little immediate action was taken to introduce a resolution, in part because other world events unfolded the day after the peaceful interlude started, when allied collusion started the Suez Crisis. The problem was not that Suez distracted US attention from Hungary but that it made the condemnation of Soviet actions very difficult. As Vice President Richard Nixon later explained, "We couldn't on one hand, complain about the Soviets intervening in Hungary and, on the other hand, approve of the British and the French picking that particular time to intervene against [Gamel Abdel] Nasser". ... Khrushchev [had] said on 28 October, it would be a mistake to imitate [in Hungary] the "real mess" of the French and British. ... Thus for a brief moment it looked like there could be a peaceful solution [until] 30 October, [when] armed protesters attacked the ÁVH [State Security Police/literally "State Protection Authority"] detachment guarding the Budapest Hungarian Working People's Party headquarters ... Over 20 ÁVH officers were killed, ...


This Day in History | November 4 [1956] - history.com

Soviet tanks crushed the Hungarian Revolution.


Cross-referencing the 9.5 minute YouTube video, Hungarian Revolt 1956, @ Post #3 of 4um Title: Hungary approves ‘Stop Soros’ law criminalizing aid to illegal migrants

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2018-10-05   8:46:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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Viktor Orban vs. EU Parliament: Hungary Takes a Stand!!! - YouTube, 9.5 minutes | Published on Sep 13, 2018 by Dr. Steve Turley

... @ 1:09 Sargentini Report ...


Archiving:


EP Representative Writing Critical Report On Hungary Runs From Facts And Journalists - YouTube, 2.5 minutes | Published on Jan 13, 2018 by Hungary English News

EP representative, Judith Sargentini, who has a history of anti- Magyar sentiment repeated several inaccuracies about Hungary while doing her investigation in Budapest. Her investigation will be used to write a critical report about the country and further pressure the country. She also refused to answer questions by journalists.


EP Approves Sargentini Report on Hungary - Hungary Today | 2018.09.12

The report authored by Green MEP Judith Sargentini ... calls for the Article 7 procedure, which ultimately suspends a member state’s voting rights, to be opened.


Viktor Orban: The truth about the Sargentini Report - English subtitles - YouTube, 1.75 minutes | Published on Sep 16, 2018 by AM HUN

Press conference by Viktor ORBÁN, Hungarian Prime Minister. Strasbourg 11/09/2018

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2019-06-25   21:11:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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