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Title: Scientists Say They've Found The Driver of False Beliefs, And It's Not a Lack of Intelligence
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Published: Sep 17, 2018
Author: DAVID NIELD
Post Date: 2018-09-17 02:24:54 by Tatarewicz
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Why is it sometimes so hard to convince someone that the world is indeed a globe, or that climate change is actually caused by human activity, despite the overwhelming evidence?

Scientists think they might have the answer, and it's less to do with lack of understanding, and more to do with the feedback they're getting.

Getting positive or negative reactions to something you do or say is a greater influence on your thinking than logic and reasoning, the new research suggests – so if you're in a group of like-minded people, that's going to reinforce your thinking.

Receiving good feedback also encourages us to think we know more than we actually do.

In other words, the more sure we become that our current position is right, the less likely we are to take into account other opinions or even cold, hard scientific data.

"If you think you know a lot about something, even though you don't, you're less likely to be curious enough to explore the topic further, and will fail to learn how little you know," says one of the team members behind the new study, Louis Marti from the University of California, Berkeley.

For the research, more than 500 participants were recruited and shown a series of colored shapes. As each shape appeared, the participants got asked if it was a "Daxxy" – a word made up for these experiments.

The test takers had no clues as to what a Daxxy was or wasn't, but they did get feedback after guessing one way or the other – the system would tell them if the shape they were looking at qualified as a Daxxy or not. At the same time they were also asked how sure they were about what a Daxxy actually was.

In this way the researchers were able to measure certainty in relation to feedback. Results showed the confidence of the participants was largely based on the results of their last four or five guesses, not their performance overall.

You can see the researchers explain the experiment in the video below:

The team behind the tests says this plays into something we already know about learning – that for it to happen, learners need to recognise that there is a gap between what they currently know and what they could know. If they don't think that gap is there, they won't take on board new information.

"What we found interesting is that they could get the first 19 guesses in a row wrong, but if they got the last five right, they felt very confident," says Marti. "It's not that they weren't paying attention, they were learning what a Daxxy was, but they weren't using most of what they learned to inform their certainty."

This recent feedback is having more of an effect than hard evidence, the experiments showed, and that might apply in a broader sense too. It could apply to learning something new or trying to differentiate between right and wrong.

And while in this case the study participants were trying to identify a made-up shape, the same cognitive processes could be at work when it comes to echo chambers on social media or on news channels – where views are constantly reinforced.

"If you use a crazy theory to make a correct prediction a couple of times, you can get stuck in that belief and may not be as interested in gathering more information," says one of the team, psychologist Celeste Kidd from UC Berkeley.

So if you think vaccinations are harmful, for example, the new study suggests you might be basing that on the most recent feedback you've had on your views, rather than the overall evidence one way or the other.

Ideally, the researchers say, learning should be based on more considered observations over time – even if that's not quite how the brain works sometimes.

"If your goal is to arrive at the truth, the strategy of using your most recent feedback, rather than all of the data you've accumulated, is not a great tactic," says Marti.

The research has been published in Open Mind.

www.sciencealert.com/feed...s-why-false-beliefs-stick

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#1. To: Tatarewicz (#0)

"If your goal is to arrive at the truth, the strategy of using your most recent feedback, rather than all of the data you've accumulated, is not a great tactic,"

Well...doh.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2018-09-17   7:32:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Tatarewicz (#0)

"If your goal is to arrive at the truth, the strategy of using your most recent feedback, rather than all of the data you've accumulated, is not a great tactic," says Marti.

Unless it's to arrive at global "consensus" on global warming, vaccines are safa, nada nada.

If your goal is to arrive at the truth don't listen to wacked-out psychologists. I went through 3 psychology professors in college. All went off into a psych ward.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2018-09-18   9:51:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Tatarewicz (#0)

Why is it sometimes so hard to convince someone that the world is indeed a globe, or that climate change is actually caused by human activity, despite the overwhelming evidence?

Scientists think they might have the answer, and it's less to do with lack of understanding, and more to do with the feedback they're getting.

Getting positive or negative reactions to something you do or say is a greater influence on your thinking than logic and reasoning, the new research suggests – so if you're in a group of like-minded people, that's going to reinforce your thinking. ....

the same cognitive processes could be at work when it comes to echo chambers on social media or on news channels – where views are constantly reinforced.

I watched a Lisa Haven video this morning that pretty much shows where this "study" by these so-called "experts" is headed: Censorship of alternative TRUTHS:

BANG! List Of 81 Channels Targeted For Online Removal Now Made Public—Report Tells All

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtGfp7MLBV0

Before I get to the report Lisa mentions, here is a link at the site discussing the "false beliefs" regarding vaccinations [and PIZZAGATE] among other things, and the tendency for the "red sweater guy" [their words] to disregard "the experts", such as the author, who described itself and Truth thus:

"...What Is Truth?

As a huge proponent for media literacy for over a decade, I’m struggling with the ways in which I missed the mark. The reality is that my assumptions and beliefs do not align with most Americans. Because of my privilege as a scholar, I get to see how expert knowledge and information is produced and have a deep respect for the strengths and limitations of scientific inquiry. Surrounded by journalists and people working to distribute information, I get to see how incentives shape information production and dissemination and the fault lines of that process. I believe that information intermediaries are important, that honed expertise matters, and that no one can ever be fully informed. As a result, I have long believed that we have to outsource certain matters and to trust others to do right by us as individuals and society as a whole. This is what it means to live in a democracy, but, more importantly, it’s what it means to live in a society.

In the United States, we’re moving towards tribalism, and we’re undoing the social fabric of our country through polarization, distrust, and self- segregation. And whether we like it or not, our culture of doubt and critique, experience over expertise, and personal responsibility is pushing us further down this path.

Media literacy asks people to raise questions and be wary of information that they’re receiving. People are. Unfortunately, that’s exactly why we’re talking past one another.

The path forward is hazy. We need to enable people to hear different perspectives and make sense of a very complicated — and in many ways, overwhelming — information landscape. We cannot fall back on standard educational approaches because the societal context has shifted. We also cannot simply assume that information intermediaries can fix the problem for us, whether they be traditional news media or social media. We need to get creative and build the social infrastructure necessary for people to meaningfully and substantively engage across existing structural lines. This won’t be easy or quick, but if we want to address issues like propaganda, hate speech, fake news, and biased content, we need to focus on the underlying issues at play. No simple band-aid will work.

...Special thanks to Amanda Lenhart, Claire Fontaine, Mary Madden, and Monica Bulger for their feedback!

...Points/spheres: In “Did Media Literacy Backfire?” danah boyd argues that the thorny problems of fake news and the spread of conspiracy theories have, in part, origins in efforts to educate people against misinformation. At the heart of the problem are deeper cultural divides that we must learn how to confront. This piece is part of a batch of new additions to an ongoing Points series on media, accountability, and the public sphere.

...•Are There Limits to Online Free Speech? by Alice Marwick ..."

https://points.datasociety.net/did-media-literacy-backfire-7418c084d88d

This George Soros, Bill & Melinda Gates, UN, etc. etc. [ https://datasociety.net/about/#funding ] funded TAX-FREE foundation also promoted the following site:

"October 19-21, 2018

Berlin, Germany

Announcing the 2018 Radical Networks Program!

24 September 2018

Join us for three days of critical discussion and workshops about DIY alternative networking. Check out the full program and our list of distinguished speakers and artists participating this year.

...Call For Proposals Open

07 July 2018

Call For Proposals!

From mass surveillance to the over-commercialization of the World Wide Web, the concept of a free and open Internet is continously threatened by corporate interests and over-reaching governments. Radical Networks is a festival and a conference, designed to foster critical discussions around these issues and to create opportunities to learn more about policy, DIY networking and the future of the Internet.

We invite artists, lawyers, engineers, writers, policy makers, educators, scientists, journalists, community organizers, and more to present ideas in this year’s Radical Networks.

The 2018 Radical Networks call for participation is open to all! Proposals will first be short listed, prioritizing applications from women, people of color, LGBTSTGNC, immigrants, and disabled folks, and then passed on to a jury for a double-blind review...."

https://radicalnetworks.org/

In other words, "Conspiracy theorists" and "Red-Sweater guys" [their words] need not apply.

The report Lisa Haven refered to:

Alternative Influence

Broadcasting the Reactionary Right on YouTube

Rebecca Lewis

Published 09.18.18

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"Social networking between influencers makes it easy for audience members to be incrementally exposed to, and come to trust, ever more extremist political positions."

•“By connecting to and interacting with one another through YouTube videos, influencers with mainstream audiences lend their credibility to openly white nationalist and other extremist content creators.”

– Rebecca Lewis, Alternative Influence.."

https://datasociety.net/output/alternative-influence/

Back to the phsychologists; let's not forget the "45 Goals of [Judeo] Communism in America" and the role these kooks play:

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

https://rense.com//general32/americ.htm

That "scientific study" was probably initiated at the Tavistock Institute of social conditioning.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2018-09-27   11:17:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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