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Title: Texas AG supports school district in Pledge of Allegiance lawsuit
Source: Faux news
URL Source: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/09/2 ... pledge-allegiance-lawsuit.html
Published: Sep 27, 2018
Author: Ryan Gaydos
Post Date: 2018-09-27 19:50:32 by titorite
Keywords: None
Views: 254
Comments: 12

A Texas school district being sued by a black student who was kicked out for refusing to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance received support from the state attorney general Tuesday.

Ken Paxton backed the Cypress-Fairbanks Independent School District as it battles the lawsuit. Kizzy Landry sued the district on behalf of her 18-year-old daughter, India, after India was kicked out of Windfern High School in October 2017 for refusing to stand for the pledge.

India Landry said at the time she was inspired by NFL players who decided to kneel during the national anthem to protest perceived racial injustices, according to the Houston Chronicle.

“I felt the flag doesn’t represent what it stands for, liberty and justice for all and I don’t feel what is going on in the country, so it was my choice to remain seated, silently,” she said. “It was a silent protest.” India said she protested the Pledge about 200 times without incident. Then she engaged in the protest while in her principal's office.

“Principal Strother upon seeing this immediately expelled India from school saying ‘Well you’re kicked outta here,’” the lawsuit complaint states. A school secretary then allegedly added: “This is not the NFL.”

While parents in Texas could sign a waiver allowing their kids to sit for the pledge, Kizzy Landry claimed forcing schoolchildren to recite the pledge violates their free speech. Paxton argued, “School children cannot unilaterally refuse to participate in the pledge,” the Dallas Morning-News reported. “Requiring the Pledge to be recited at the start of every school day has the laudable result of fostering respect for our flag and a patriotic love of our country,” Paxton said in a statement. “This case is about providing for the saying of the Pledge of Allegiance while respecting the parental right to direct the education of children.”

Landry has not returned to the school and missed her graduation, KHOU reported. The case is set to go to trial April 15.

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I dont see what the girls race has to do with anything, I think thats just the Lame Stream Media playing up that part for sensationalism but what is at the heart of the matter is free speech. She doesnt wanna say the pledge of allegiance.

Big deal neither did I in school but for different reasons... I felt is was kinda nazish to demand a pledge of loyalty. Kinda hitler youth sorta thing. I knew most of my class mates never thought about it and couldn't define half the words in the pledge...but they were reciting it by rote the programming of the propaganda buried deep into their minds... So Fuck no fuck a loyalty pledge , What did napoleon say

"A soldier will fight long and hard for a bit of colored ribbon." - Napoleon Bonaparte

Liberty and justice for all is a bit more important to me than some colored ribbon....

SO this colored girl doesnt want to say the pledge, so fucking what. That is her constitutional right. Affirmed by the supreme court. This aint the first time a child refused to say the pledge. Their's precedent. Ken Paxton is a fucking idiot for not knowing that and fucktard for supporting the schools attempted suppression if this girls 1st amendment right. She cant be compelled to say it and should not be punished for not saying it.

She has the liberty and right to speak or not speak. Fuck that school and fuck ken paxton.

titorite  posted on  2018-09-27   19:58:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Liege: noun

a feudal lord entitled to allegiance and service.

a feudal vassal or subject.

The kid's right, you're right, and I am in total agreement. The pledge is bullshit especially when you understand the meaning of "Liege" !

noone222  posted on  2018-09-28   5:35:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Liege: noun

a feudal lord entitled to allegiance and service.

a feudal vassal or subject.

... The pledge is bullshit especially when you understand the meaning of "Liege" !

Nobody is expected to kneel as a feudal vassal for the Pledge of Allegiance or our National Anthem either. It's more than slightly ironic, though - imo, that some oppositionals have claimed to be so disgruntled with America that they'd ... what? Intentionally assume that "Liege" posturance during the Anthem as an offensive joke or something? I have to wonder why but can't even think of logistical reasons that don't amount to bad sportsmanship and intrusively worse.

GreyLmist  posted on  2018-09-28   7:25:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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March 23, 1775.

MR. PRESIDENT: No man thinks more highly than I do of the patriotism, as well as abilities, of the very worthy gentlemen who have just addressed the House. But different men often see the same subject in different lights; and, therefore, I hope it will not be thought disrespectful to those gentlemen if, entertaining as I do, opinions of a character very opposite to theirs, I shall speak forth my sentiments freely, and without reserve. This is no time for ceremony. The question before the House is one of awful moment to this country. For my own part, I consider it as nothing less than a question of freedom or slavery; and in proportion to the magnitude of the subject ought to be the freedom of the debate. It is only in this way that we can hope to arrive at truth, and fulfil the great responsibility which we hold to God and our country. Should I keep back my opinions at such a time, through fear of giving offence, I should consider myself as guilty of treason towards my country, and of an act of disloyalty toward the majesty of heaven, which I revere above all earthly kings.

Mr. President, it is natural to man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts. Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty? Are we disposed to be of the number of those who, having eyes, see not, and, having ears, hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation? For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it.

I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided; and that is the lamp of experience. I know of no way of judging of the future but by the past. And judging by the past, I wish to know what there has been in the conduct of the British ministry for the last ten years, to justify those hopes with which gentlemen have been pleased to solace themselves, and the House? Is it that insidious smile with which our petition has been lately received? Trust it not, sir; it will prove a snare to your feet. Suffer not yourselves to be betrayed with a kiss. Ask yourselves how this gracious reception of our petition comports with these war-like preparations which cover our waters and darken our land. Are fleets and armies necessary to a work of love and reconciliation? Have we shown ourselves so unwilling to be reconciled, that force must be called in to win back our love? Let us not deceive ourselves, sir. These are the implements of war and subjugation; the last arguments to which kings resort. I ask, gentlemen, sir, what means this martial array, if its purpose be not to force us to submission? Can gentlemen assign any other possible motive for it? Has Great Britain any enemy, in this quarter of the world, to call for all this accumulation of navies and armies? No, sir, she has none. They are meant for us; they can be meant for no other. They are sent over to bind and rivet upon us those chains which the British ministry have been so long forging. And what have we to oppose to them? Shall we try argument? Sir, we have been trying that for the last ten years. Have we anything new to offer upon the subject? Nothing. We have held the subject up in every light of which it is capable; but it has been all in vain. Shall we resort to entreaty and humble supplication? What terms shall we find which have not been already exhausted? Let us not, I beseech you, sir, deceive ourselves. Sir, we have done everything that could be done, to avert the storm which is now coming on. We have petitioned; we have remonstrated; we have supplicated; we have prostrated ourselves before the throne, and have implored its interposition to arrest the tyrannical hands of the ministry and Parliament. Our petitions have been slighted; our remonstrances have produced additional violence and insult; our supplications have been disregarded; and we have been spurned, with contempt, from the foot of the throne. In vain, after these things, may we indulge the fond hope of peace and reconciliation. There is no longer any room for hope. If we wish to be free² if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending²if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained, we must fight! I repeat it, sir, we must fight! An appeal to arms and to the God of Hosts is all that is left us!

They tell us, sir, that we are weak; unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a British guard shall be stationed in every house? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance, by lying supinely on our backs, and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot? Sir, we are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of nature hath placed in our power. Three millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us. Besides, sir, we shall not fight our battles alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations; and who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us. The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. Besides, sir, we have no election. If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged! Their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston! The war is inevitable²and let it come! I repeat it, sir, let it come.

It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace²but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!

Source: Wirt, William. Sketches of the Life and Character of Patrick Henry . (Philadelphia) 1836, as reproduced in The World's Great Speeches, Lewis Copeland and Lawrence W. Lamm, eds., (New York) 1973.

Man, I find you almost unbearable in your Stepford Wives approach to patriotism. You continually make excuses for the upside down and non-constitutional behavior of the FEDERAL usurpers. Why should I accept your "opinion" regarding "no one is expected to kneel as a feudal vassal" ... every taxpayer in Amerika is on their knees when forced to support a million issues that violate their conscience.

Please don't get me started ... are you a bot ? Often times you sound intelligent while espousing the most ridiculous positions that are amazingly fact free fictions of your imagination.

noone222  posted on  2018-09-28 07:48:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

That all aside, I think it is perfectly ok for any to say or not say the pledge voluntarily. And that is the whole sum of it. Forcing people to do as you will is force. She has a right to her speech. She chooses not to say the pledge or stand for the pledge this does not impact other people. Pride be damned.

More over as I said, this aint the first kid to refuse to say the pledge. Its been ruled on and their is precedent the principle fucked up expelling her and now the school district and tax payers are gonna have to pay the price for the pride of patriotism.

titorite  posted on  2018-09-28 22:22:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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