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Title: Texas AG supports school district in Pledge of Allegiance lawsuit
Source: Faux news
URL Source: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/09/2 ... pledge-allegiance-lawsuit.html
Published: Sep 27, 2018
Author: Ryan Gaydos
Post Date: 2018-09-27 19:50:32 by titorite
Keywords: None
Views: 407
Comments: 12

A Texas school district being sued by a black student who was kicked out for refusing to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance received support from the state attorney general Tuesday.

Ken Paxton backed the Cypress-Fairbanks Independent School District as it battles the lawsuit. Kizzy Landry sued the district on behalf of her 18-year-old daughter, India, after India was kicked out of Windfern High School in October 2017 for refusing to stand for the pledge.

India Landry said at the time she was inspired by NFL players who decided to kneel during the national anthem to protest perceived racial injustices, according to the Houston Chronicle.

“I felt the flag doesn’t represent what it stands for, liberty and justice for all and I don’t feel what is going on in the country, so it was my choice to remain seated, silently,” she said. “It was a silent protest.” India said she protested the Pledge about 200 times without incident. Then she engaged in the protest while in her principal's office.

“Principal Strother upon seeing this immediately expelled India from school saying ‘Well you’re kicked outta here,’” the lawsuit complaint states. A school secretary then allegedly added: “This is not the NFL.”

While parents in Texas could sign a waiver allowing their kids to sit for the pledge, Kizzy Landry claimed forcing schoolchildren to recite the pledge violates their free speech. Paxton argued, “School children cannot unilaterally refuse to participate in the pledge,” the Dallas Morning-News reported. “Requiring the Pledge to be recited at the start of every school day has the laudable result of fostering respect for our flag and a patriotic love of our country,” Paxton said in a statement. “This case is about providing for the saying of the Pledge of Allegiance while respecting the parental right to direct the education of children.”

Landry has not returned to the school and missed her graduation, KHOU reported. The case is set to go to trial April 15.

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#1. To: All (#0)

I dont see what the girls race has to do with anything, I think thats just the Lame Stream Media playing up that part for sensationalism but what is at the heart of the matter is free speech. She doesnt wanna say the pledge of allegiance.

Big deal neither did I in school but for different reasons... I felt is was kinda nazish to demand a pledge of loyalty. Kinda hitler youth sorta thing. I knew most of my class mates never thought about it and couldn't define half the words in the pledge...but they were reciting it by rote the programming of the propaganda buried deep into their minds... So Fuck no fuck a loyalty pledge , What did napoleon say

"A soldier will fight long and hard for a bit of colored ribbon." - Napoleon Bonaparte

Liberty and justice for all is a bit more important to me than some colored ribbon....

SO this colored girl doesnt want to say the pledge, so fucking what. That is her constitutional right. Affirmed by the supreme court. This aint the first time a child refused to say the pledge. Their's precedent. Ken Paxton is a fucking idiot for not knowing that and fucktard for supporting the schools attempted suppression if this girls 1st amendment right. She cant be compelled to say it and should not be punished for not saying it.

She has the liberty and right to speak or not speak. Fuck that school and fuck ken paxton.

titorite  posted on  2018-09-27   19:58:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: titorite (#1) (Edited)

Liege: noun

a feudal lord entitled to allegiance and service.

a feudal vassal or subject.

The kid's right, you're right, and I am in total agreement. The pledge is bullshit especially when you understand the meaning of "Liege" !

noone222  posted on  2018-09-28   5:35:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: noone222 (#4) (Edited)

Liege: noun

a feudal lord entitled to allegiance and service.

a feudal vassal or subject.

... The pledge is bullshit especially when you understand the meaning of "Liege" !


Nobody is expected to kneel as a feudal vassal for the Pledge of Allegiance or our National Anthem either. It's more than slightly ironic, though - imo, that some oppositionals have claimed to be so disgruntled with America that they'd ... what? Intentionally assume that "Liege" posturance during the Anthem as an offensive joke or something? I have to wonder why but can't even think of logistical reasons that don't amount to bad sportsmanship and intrusively worse.

GreyLmist  posted on  2018-09-28   7:25:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: GreyLmist (#5)

That all aside, I think it is perfectly ok for any to say or not say the pledge voluntarily. And that is the whole sum of it. Forcing people to do as you will is force. She has a right to her speech. She chooses not to say the pledge or stand for the pledge this does not impact other people. Pride be damned.

More over as I said, this aint the first kid to refuse to say the pledge. Its been ruled on and their is precedent the principle fucked up expelling her and now the school district and tax payers are gonna have to pay the price for the pride of patriotism.

titorite  posted on  2018-09-28   22:22:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#8. To: titorite, noone222 (#7) (Edited)

That all aside, I think it is perfectly ok for any to say or not say the pledge voluntarily. And that is the whole sum of it. Forcing people to do as you will is force. She has a right to her speech. She chooses not to say the pledge or stand for the pledge this does not impact other people. Pride be damned.

More over as I said, this aint the first kid to refuse to say the pledge. Its been ruled on and their is precedent the principle fucked up expelling her and now the school district and tax payers are gonna have to pay the price for the pride of patriotism.


In no way do I mean for the sincere efforts of vigilance by you, none, et al to be depreciated by my perspective that this particular case is not really about an alleged Freedom of Speech issue at all, like it's reported be, and so isn't even worthy of your well-intentioned interventions, in my humble opinion. If you go back and read through it again, I think you'll find and might agree then that the school forced no student whatsoever to recite the Pledge (as her mother deflected the matter to about but is actually not about the First Amendment, except to the extent that it's being misused to gloss over quite a number of conniving issues and motives involved in the background staging of this.) Nor were any students forced to stand for the Pledge or even forced to muster enough quietude in respect for the Speech rights of others who did want to recite it. They were probably also free to go sit someplace else, like a room at the office, where they wouldn't have to see the participants or as many -- all they needed to do was get a signed permission form from one of their parents or guardians and then they were clearance-freed to sit down if they couldn't bear to stand through it long enough out of silent respect for the rights of their classmates and others; just simply sit down, quietly and non-disruptively.

The first issues of importance (and I'm open to being corrected if you think I'm wrong) are these 3:

1. Did she or did she not bring in the custodial permission form to sit down for the Pledge?

2. Was she sent to the office because she was disruptive while sitting down at that time?

3. Was she expelled because she didn't have the required permission on file to sit down through the Pledge, despite having gotten away with doing so numerous times before?

That's about all I have the online time to say for now on this subject but will look forward to posted viewpoints and discussing this further if anyone might want to do that: relevant school system issues, Parental Rights issues, historical issues, distorted historical issues and the Reparations Movement, lawsuit mania, the Cultural Marxist/Communist agendas to divide and conquer America, etc.

GreyLmist  posted on  2018-09-29 10:13:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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