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Title: Conservatism, Inc. Cheers On Persecution of Proud Boys and Dissident Right
Source: VDare
URL Source: http://www.unz.com/article/conserva ... roud-boys-and-dissident-right/
Published: Oct 27, 2018
Author: Julian Bradford
Post Date: 2018-10-27 10:11:11 by Ada
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Lost amid the uproar over the alleged threat of right-wing violence revealed by crude bomb-like devices apparently mailed to CNN and some top Democrats: the speed with which Conservatism Inc. endorsed the Left’s Narrative (David Frum here, Bill Kristol here, Ben Shapiro here, Rich Lowry here). It’s a Thing: increasingly openly, Conservatism Inc. is making a de facto alliance with the Left in a last-ditch effort to stop its Dissident Right’s rivals’ takeover of the Right. Case in point: its disgraceful reaction to the New York authorities’ anarcho-tyrannical drive to suppress Gavin McInnes’ Proud Boys pro-Trump fraternity, while simultaneously exempting Antifa demonstrators from prosecution.

The Proud Boys clashed with Antifa because the black-masked anarchists were robbing and assaulting people who were leaving an event addressed by McInnes at New York’s Metropolitan Republican Club. As soon as video emerged of the scuffle, the Left and their journalist auxiliaries and quickly went into histrionics. [Gavin McInnes and the Proud Boys: An Extremist Far-Right Group, Explained, by Christianna Silva, Teen Vogue, October 18, 2018] Conservatism, Inc. was all too willing to join in.

Leading the Conservatism, Inc. charge against the Proud Boys: National Review editor-in-chief Rich Lowry. In an op-ed published at Politico, Lowry [Email him] sobbed over the “poisonous allure of right-wing violence” and dismissed McInnes as nothing more than an opportunistic huckster—unlike the very principled conservative-denouncing professional token conservatives in POLITICO. The cuckservative gatekeeper also attacked McInnes’ for writing for—GASP!—“rancid” sites like VDARE.com and Takimag (as opposed, presumably, to flaccid sites like NRO) before delivering his opinion on what real men do in the face of Antifa violence: apparently, nothing.

“[P]atriotic suburban dads have better things to do than roam the streets of Manhattan getting into brawls with black-clad left-wingers, nor is this an activity conducive to meeting a nice girl and settling down,” Lowry lectured his audience. “The atavistic impulse of the Proud Boys is straight from the movie Fight Club, in which a violent men’s group represents a revolt against banal, overly feminized modern society”. [The Poisonous Allure of Right-Wing Violence, by Rich Lowry, POLITICO, October 17, 2018]

Who knew there were so many conservatives opposed to “toxic masculinity”? Lowry concludes with the favorite Conservatism, Inc. admonishment that “two wrongs don’t make it right” without any acknowledgement that the Left and its MSM enforcers don’t see Antifa’s suppressing conservative meetings as bad—nor, of course, of McInnes’ constant efforts to position the Proud Boys as multiracial civic nationalists (which have done him no good whatever)

Respectable conservatives prefer standing on imaginary moral high ground rather than fight for their own supposed interests. But turning the other cheek to Antifa and denouncing anyone who dares to punch back will not quell Leftist violence. It rewards it, and only makes conservatives look like cowards.

Unfortunately for the Proud Boys, Conservatism, Inc. condemnation is the least of their concerns. The media paints them as Neo-Nazi thugs although they boast more racial diversity than HuffPost and have repeatedly disavowed white nationalism. The “Hate Group” label has stuck as usual, making anyone affiliated with the Proud Boys subject to employment termination—several in New York were arbitrarily fired from their jobs the day after Trump’s election—and other severe harassment. The Twitter accounts for the group, McInnes and several prominent members have been permanently suspended. More censorship will likely follow. [Twitter Bans Conservative Commentator Gavin McInnes, by Allum Bokhari, Breitbart News, August 10, 2018]

Additionally, law enforcement is more zealous in prosecuting Proud Boys involved in brawls, such as the nine members charged with various crimes—now reportedly upgraded to felonies—in relation to the recent NYC skirmish. [3 more Proud Boys members arrested for violent NYC brawl, by Peter Martinez, CBS News, October 22, 2018] (You can donate to the Proud Boys’ defense here.)

But the persecution of the Proud Boys is no concern for Conservative Inc., even though they are the only group willing to defend patriots from Antifa violence. The Respectable Right are clearly more than happy with the Left taking out the “disreputable” elements of its Dissident Right competition.

Conservatism, Inc. also demonstrated this unmanly behavior this summer when Alex Jones’ Infowars was banned from multiple social media outlets. Most conservatives—like Ben Shapiro—mustered up a lukewarm disapproval for Big Tech’s silencing of Jones, hardly equal to the outrage they directed toward Jones himself.

But a few prominent voices went so far as to praise Facebook and Google for their suppression of free speech.

Weekly Standard digital editor Jonathan Last [Tweet him] argued that the Internet was right to ban Alex Jones and “that there’s no reason for conservatives to defend this guy.” Last claimed that these tech giants are private companies who can ban whoever they want, and free speech doesn’t mean you are free from consequences. He also insisted Infowars wasn’t denied equal access because it’s still on the Internet—just not on social media—in a profoundly out-of-touch statement on modern communication [The Case for Banning Alex Jones, by Jonathan V. Last, Weekly Standard, August 8, 2018]

Last’s primary argument for banning Jones was that he violates “minimum standards of decency” and conservatives should not worry about a slippery slope. In fact, conservatives should urge Big Tech to go further in censorship because “[t]he conservative view isn’t just that communities have the right to create standards—we have always believed that there is wisdom and virtue in doing so.” Thus YouTube is truly a haven of virtue thanks to its elimination of right-wingers. [YouTube is still plagued with disturbing kids' videos, by Mallory Locklear, EndGadget, March 23, 2018]

Daily Beast contributor Ben Howe, a former Red State writer purged for hating Trump, echoed Last’s opinion in a more self-serving, less intelligent way in an August column. Howe spent most of his time in the column using the word “I” and making dumb arguments about respecting private enterprise is the core virtue of conservatism. He ends his argument with a paean to himself and his supposed bravery for standing athwart the Right’s opposition to corporate censorship. In his nonsensical conclusion, he also dismisses conservatives for tweeting because they’re nobodies who just want relevance. [Conservatives Should Shed Absolutely No Tears for Alex Jones, by Ben Howe, The Daily Beast, August 9, 2018]

A more nuanced take for censoring uncouth right-wingers came from National Review’s David French. In an op-ed for the New York Times—the dream of all Respectable Right types—French [Tweet him] offered a “better way to ban Alex Jones.” Instead of relying on hate speech grounds, the conservative lawyer said social media should ban Jones for libel and fake news.

It apparently did not occur to French that this argument creates another double-standard. It’s doubtful he would dare to advocate that this standard applied to mainstream outlets that spread erroneous reports, so only right-wing sites would be subject to these rules. One report deemed false by a Leftist “fact-checker” could doom a conservative site’s access to social media. [A Better Way to Ban Alex Jones, by David French, New York Times, August 7, 2018]

So once again, a conservative made an argument against his supposed side’s own interests to gain respect from his enemies. That’s a fitting summary of Conservative Inc.’s efforts against the pro-Trump Right.

Trump is transforming the American Right and is well on the way to overturning the decadent Conservative Establishment. The Left and the media are dedicated to stamping out these challenges because they’re “racist” and don’t respect their hegemonic authority. Conservatism, Inc. thinks it can just sit back and watch, comfortable in the delusion it will be preserved from the persecution.

Of course, it’s stupid if them to think this, given the censorship of PragerU and the violence inflicted against Charles Murray and Heather Mac Donald. But Conservatism Inc. is stupid. That’s how they let Trump take the GOP away from them. And on present form, when Antifa comes for them, the Proud Boys won’t be around to attend them.

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#1. To: Ada (#0)

Weekly Standard digital editor Jonathan Last [Tweet him] argued that the Internet was right to ban Alex Jones and “that there’s no reason for conservatives to defend this guy.” Last claimed that these tech giants are private companies who can ban whoever they want, and free speech doesn’t mean you are free from consequences. He also insisted Infowars wasn’t denied equal access because it’s still on the Internet—just not on social media—in a profoundly out-of-touch statement on modern communication [The Case for Banning Alex Jones, by Jonathan V. Last, Weekly Standard, August 8, 2018]

Sometimes it's impossible to ignore certain communist Jews like Kristol.

Ephesians 5:11King James Version (KJV)

11 "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. "

The best thing about old age is that it doesn't last forever.

noone222  posted on  2018-10-27   11:44:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: noone222 (#1)

Sometimes it's impossible to ignore certain communist Jews like Kristol.

David Frum = Jew. Bill Kristol = Jew. Ben Shapiro = Jew.

Ada  posted on  2018-10-27   14:31:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Ada (#2)

David Frum = Jew. Bill Kristol = Jew. Ben Shapiro = Jew.

I only mentioned Kristol because he nauseates me !

I might mention here (even though it's a little off topic) that we as a people are so used to using the terms Republican and Democrat that I think we lose a little of our objectiveness. I hear alternative media pundits telling their audiences to vote a straight Republican ticket. Should people vote for a party rather than an individual based upon performance ? [I am aware of the fear that the House could impeach Trump if they gain back the majority).

Our politics is too fear based already and seems to get worse every election cycle just as our choices of good quality persons to fill those positions lessens. Observing the behavior of the media and the politicians makes one wonder how this country has maintained itself at all. (Well, the national debt speaks to this situation and it's not good).

Kristol, Frum, and Shapiro are educated men with silver tongues, plenty of media access and an agenda that definitely should be recognized by all Americans for the treacherous filth that they represent but sadly they are not.

Ephesians 5:11King James Version (KJV)

11 "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. "

The best thing about old age is that it doesn't last forever.

noone222  posted on  2018-10-27   15:08:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: noone222 (#3)

Kristol, Frum, and Shapiro are educated men with silver tongues, plenty of media access and an agenda that definitely should be recognized by all Americans for the treacherous filth that they represent but sadly they are not.

Spot on, but if they were sent them to the camps that are set up supposedly to put patriots in, we would all be accused of being Nazis.

But then you see the Joos showed how much they could be back stabbers in Germany when Herschel Grynspan murdered the Deputy Ambassador to France in Paris in 1938. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2018-10-27   15:29:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: noone222 (#3)

+1


"Define yourself as one beloved by God. This is the true self. Every other identity is illusion."—Brennan Manning

Rotara  posted on  2018-10-27   16:11:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Rotara (#5)

Appreciate it, bro !

Ephesians 5:11King James Version (KJV)

11 "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. "

The best thing about old age is that it doesn't last forever.

noone222  posted on  2018-10-27   17:31:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: BTP Holdings (#4)

Spot on, but if they were sent them to the camps that are set up supposedly to put patriots in, we would all be accused of being Nazis.

You're probably correct - but - I have been accused of so many things by those that are supposed to matter that wasn't in the least true. I couldn't care less what I'm accused of especially of being racist.

What the hell is freedom if I don't have the right to be racist if I choose to be. (Which I don't). Who's to say what thoughts we harbor ? As soon as we concern ourselves with such mediocrity as accusations of racism we have forfeited our freedom. I judge people according to their actions and deeds. I don't hate "ALL" Jews, but there are some that deserve to be hated. (By the way, "they say they are Jews, but are not and do lie").

Ephesians 5:11King James Version (KJV)

11 "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. "

The best thing about old age is that it doesn't last forever.

noone222  posted on  2018-10-27   17:38:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: noone222 (#7)

Jesus hammered away at the jew money-changers, the scribes, and the pharisees of His day. They haven't improved in over 2000 years...

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2018-10-27   18:42:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: noone222 (#7)

I don't hate "ALL" Jews, but there are some that deserve to be hated. (By the way, "they say they are Jews, but are not and do lie").

I've known some Jews from living in Chicago. One time when delivering flowers we noticed a purse snatching less than a block from the shop. There were two of them. One pushed the old lady and the other grabbed her purse. We went after the guy who snatched the purse. He was on foot and ran up the alley behind the shop. He must have run a block and a half and cut thru a gangway. I had to bail out of the van to chase him.

I caught him in less than a half block. I grabbed him by his sweater when he tried to go the other way and I slammed him to the ground. The guy that was with me in the van came up then and he pulled and 11 inch butcher knife from the waistband of the guy's pants. We got the purse and the weapon.

They gave me a Chicago Police Citizen's Award for that. But it was in the dresser drawer when my furniture disappeared in Golden City. The purse snatching happened right in front of the Beth Shalom Synagogue.

When I start to work for State of Illinois the first crew I was assigned to was called the Jew Crew since most of the guys on it were Jewish. The Foreman said once, "Give me Tex and the Jew Crew and I can do anything." I wonder how those guys like having to take 20% cuts to their pensions. I know it hurts me too. But I only get $200 per week from my payee now and that does not go very far.

Revelation 3:9 I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars-I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2018-10-27   19:03:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Lod (#8)

Jesus hammered away at the jew money-changers

Remember when He overturned their tables in the Synagogue? ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2018-10-27   19:04:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: BTP Holdings (#10)

Remember when He overturned their tables in the Synagogue? ;)

Jesus wasn't taking any crap from those Jew bankers !

Ephesians 5:11King James Version (KJV)

11 "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. "

The best thing about old age is that it doesn't last forever.

noone222  posted on  2018-10-27   19:08:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: noone222 (#3)

I only mentioned Kristol because he nauseates me !

Me too. LOL

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2018-10-27   19:12:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Lod (#8)

the scribes, and the pharisees

Yes, like the media (scribes) and Pharisees (politicians/priests).

I read that the Jew Rabbis claim an unbroken chain from the Pharisees ... I would never have guessed !!!

Ephesians 5:11King James Version (KJV)

11 "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. "

The best thing about old age is that it doesn't last forever.

noone222  posted on  2018-10-27   19:13:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: noone222 (#11)

Jesus wasn't taking any crap from those Jew bankers !

He knew what they were up to and the church today still preaches charity rather than usury. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2018-10-27   19:14:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: noone222 (#13)

I read that the Jew Rabbis claim an unbroken chain from the Pharisees ... I would never have guessed !!!

Me neither.

But did you know that after Judas hung himself after betraying Christ that the Rabbis found the 30 pieces of silver. They said, "It would not be right to put this in the church treasury." So the bought a piece of ground to bury foreigners and it is still there today. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2018-10-27   19:19:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: BTP Holdings (#15)

But did you know that after Judas hung himself after betraying Christ that the Rabbis found the 30 pieces of silver. They said, "It would not be right to put this in the church treasury." So the bought a piece of ground to bury foreigners and it is still there today. ;)

I think it was called the Potter's Field after that time.

I have had a difficult time determining whether or not some Biblical information was tampered with by the authorities. Would it not be possible or even likely that the powers of the time might have the translation spun to benefit their agenda ?

As an example, we see Romans 13 telling us to do what the authorities command and on the other hand we are shown many instances of disobedience to authority, such as the midwives delivering babies contrary to the orders of authority.

The differences between Paul, James, and Peter, one teaching grace is everything and the other two the necessity of works. I also wonder about reincarnation. I agree with the churches teaching morality and kindness even when it most benefits the security of the the elites because it has also prevented much chaos among the masses. I will never understand the churches propagandizing the so-called Jews to be chosen above all others despite whatever mayhem they have caused and the fact that these Biblical scholars should very well know better.

Questions that I may never have answers to have caused me to eliminate Biblical debate as much as possible because everyone interested in the subject should determine for themselves what to accept as truth all the while requesting spiritual guidance from the Holy Spirit.

Lastly, life's experience has shown me that some outside force of influence has an agenda for each person on the planet and regardless of what occurs today to any one of us doesn't stop the sun from coming up tomorrow. It seems to me that what one day seems to be an insurmountable problem is almost forgotten later on when trying to recall exactly how that problem was eliminated.

Several people have of late discussed the possibility that we are living in a matrix or hologram. Things have become so weirded out of late that I have become more open to at least consider damn near anything could be the case. I even asked my mother as a child what was the purpose of this life and the never ending succession of ancestors over millenniums. Life begins to appear as an opportunity to deal with losses of everything such as family members, friends, our health, and ultimately our own life. I also find it difficult to understand why we are expected to accept Kings, Queens, and Popes to be respected when they have forever been the liars and murderers bequeathing only grief to humanity while forbidding some ultimate truth be exposed.

Ephesians 5:11King James Version (KJV)

11 "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. "

The best thing about old age is that it doesn't last forever.

noone222  posted on  2018-10-28   5:14:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: noone222 (#16)

The Word of God is a spiritual instrument, first. God is Spirit. The kingdom of God is entered ONLY by a spiritual conversion. And ONLY Holy Ghost can get to a person's heart and plant the knowledge Christ's divinity.

I read the Holy Bible before I truly had a heart conversion and didn't "get it".

But if Holy Spirit lives in the reader's heart it's a whole different story.

My devotional today actually may be of interest to someone besides me: https://panamakent.com/2018/10/10/seek-ye-first-the-kingdom-of-god-las-tablas-global-sa- ministries-daily-devotion/


"Define yourself as one beloved by God. This is the true self. Every other identity is illusion."—Brennan Manning

Rotara  posted on  2018-10-28   11:33:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: noone222 (#16)

I think it was called the Potter's Field after that time.

I think you are right about this, Doug. There are Potter's Fields all around. And there was even one in Chicago on near north side near LaSalle Dr. and North Ave beach. I believe there are now ball fields there since it is Park District land. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2018-10-28   13:00:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: noone222 (#16)

I have had a difficult time determining whether or not some Biblical information was tampered with by the authorities. Would it not be possible or even likely that the powers of the time might have the translation spun to benefit their agenda ?

I just spent two hours responding to your very thoughtful post and my computer ate it. Here's a truncated version...

Justin Martyr:

Passages have Been Removed by the Jews from Esdras and Jeremiah.

Dialogue of Justin, Philosopher and Martyr, with Trypho — Justin Martyr

And I said, "I shall do as you please. From the statements, then, which Esdras made in reference to the law of the passover, they have taken away the following: And Esdras said to the people, This passover is our Saviour and our refuge. And if you have understood, and your heart has taken it in, that we shall humble Him on a standard, and [2218] thereafter hope in Him, then this place shall not be forsaken for ever, says the God of hosts. But if you will not believe Him, and will not listen to His declaration, you shall be a laughing-stock to the nations.' [2219] And from the sayings of Jeremiah they have cut out the following: I [was] like a lamb that is brought to the slaughter: they devised a device against me, saying, Come, let us lay on wood on His bread, and let us blot Him out from the land of the living; and His name shall no more be remembered.' [2220] And since this passage from the sayings of Jeremiah is still written in some copies [of the Scriptures] in the synagogues of the Jews (for it is only a short time since they were cut out), and since from these words it is demonstrated that the Jews deliberated about the Christ Himself, to crucify and put Him to death, He Himself is both declared to be led as a sheep to the slaughter, as was predicted by Isaiah, and is here represented as a harmless lamb; but being in a difficulty about them, they give themselves over to blasphemy. And again, from the sayings of the same Jeremiah these have been cut out: The Lord God remembered His dead people of Israel who lay in the graves; and He descended to preach to them His own salvation.' [2221]

Footnotes:

[2218] Or, "even if we."

[2219] It is not known where this passage comes from.

[2220] Jeremiah 11:19.

[2221] This is wanting in our Scriptures: it is cited by Iren., iii. 20, under the name of Isaiah, and in iv. 22 under that of Jeremiah.--Maranus."

Copied from biblehub.com . [I remember reading this from Justin Martyr and Trypho a little differently: they left out the verses referring to "saved from the wood", as in the staff of Moses raised up at the Red Sea, Noah's Ark, etc., leading up to the wooden cross, and the staff of Jesus, perhaps.

I [was] like a lamb that is brought to the slaughter: they devised a device against me, saying, Come, let us lay on wood on His bread, and let us blot Him out from the land of the living; and His name shall no more be remembered.'

Interesting to note that the Pharisees call Him "Yeshu" which is a Hebrew acronym for "may His name be forgotten/blotted out".

I read many years ago, somewhere, that Jesus did not say "Father forgive them for they know not what they do," but "Father, forgive them NOT, for they know what they do." I didn't find that yet, but I did find this from the US Conference of Catholic Bishops.

"The Crucifixion.

p 33 When they came to the place called the Skull, they crucified him and the criminals there, one on his right, the other on his left.

q 34 [Then Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, they know not what they do.”] * They divided his garments by casting lots.

* [23:34] [Then Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, they know not what they do.”]: this portion of Lk 23:34 does not occur in the oldest papyrus manuscript of Luke and in other early Greek manuscripts and ancient versions of wide geographical distribution.

http://www.usccb.org/bible/luke/23/

I almost lost this again [after the FOURTH try since yesterday morning] so I am going to post it before I continue. Thankfully, to me anyway, part of it was preserved on the last couple of tries.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2018-10-30   9:07:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#19)

Thank you for what appears to be an exceptional effort !

One obvious fact in my opinion is that the world's current condition has nothing to do with Christians that observe and execute Christian (Biblical) values. The practitioners of Babylonian Talmud, on the other hand cannot claim the same effect.

Ephesians 5:11King James Version (KJV)

11 "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. "

The best thing about old age is that it doesn't last forever.

noone222  posted on  2018-10-30   9:33:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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