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Title: See it. Live it. "V" for Vendetta!
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"V" for Vendetta
URL Source: http://vforvendetta.warnerbros.com/
Published: Mar 17, 2006
Author: Arator
Post Date: 2006-03-18 00:05:13 by Arator
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Keywords: Vendetta!, Live
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Comments: 70
I just saw it...and WOW! This movie will wake people up. It might even equip them spiritually to first identify and then resist would-be tyrants and their sometimes eager goonsquads. The only thing I can't figure out is why Time Warner ever allowed such a movie to be made? It doesn't exactly depict BIG MEDIA in a favorable light. In fact, it's damning as hell of the CNNs and FoxNewsChannels of this world. Got any theories?
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#3. To: buckeroo, christine (#2)
Yes, this movie could. Among its lessons are: Fascist governments thrive
when people fear and they, therefore, actively promote same via hysterical big media
propaganda and government-sponsored terror. The key to reestablishing
freedom is to master your fear, even your fear of death. Once that is acheived,
the fascists have no more power and one becomes truly free.
Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.
All this talk about resisting the government is frightening me. I want to call one of the government tattle-tale lines, but there's so many, I don't know which one to call.
I do not fear your call. Nor will I self-censor for fear of your tattle- telling. Hence, the would-be censors are rendered powerless. As are you. This is the lesson of "V for Vendetta." ;^)
Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.
My guess is that it's a combination of not quite knowing or understanding what it was about (a comic book - you mean like the Hulk?...it's an action film?) and that the Wachowskis did so spectacularly well with the whole Matrix series. Money trumps everything.
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
So, they've already written off Time, CNN and AOL as hopelessly discredited and unsalvagable loss leaders?
Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.
And ... just mayhaps ... the federal debt.
I don't think they see the contradiction inherent in producing V and in supporting those "news" organizations. They're too deeply embedded to see outside of their cages.
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
I plan to see it this weekend. Thanks for your review of the movie. "Conservatives" have circled the wagons. It must hit a little too close to home... I mentioned this on another thread, I caught Glen Beck the other morning talking about V. He couldn't believe a movie like this was being shown at a time like this when America is fighting a war against terror. He said it glorified terrorism, glorified attacking a legitmate government, and just ought not to be allowed to be shown. From what I understand, this is about people living under a horrific, tyrannical government who have lost all other means of peaceful recourse. Using Glen Beck's logic and that of a majority of those at FR, our Founding Fathers were not justified. On one FR thread: "If you liked the politics of last weekend's Oscar nominees, you'll love "V for Vendetta." It's an exciting, quality Bin Laden film. But if you're like the rest of mainstream America--you support our troops, believe in firmly responding to terrorists on our own shores, and/or respect Christianity--then, don't waste your time at this piece of garbage masquerading as a superhero movie. It is anything but."-- from the article by Debbie Schlussel I shouldn't be shocked by this any more, but somehow I still am. Granted, there is a certain degree of truth in the statement "Our Founders were terrorists" but given they had exhausted every possible means of peaceful recrourse against tyranny, what else was left to them in order to secure freedom and liberty? The disconnect going on with "conservatives" is mind-boggling. They actually see the "Britain" protrayed in this movie as a legitimate, (ordained) government. Its like Alex Jones says when he talks about how children understand the Star War's scenario and how it decends to tyranny but adults fail to grasp the concept. The guys who made this made the Matrix. The first one took some swipes at current worldviews and paradigms. Made lots of $$$$ in the process. Warner probably hoping to cash in again.
I've often felt that movies especially can help make complicated issues understandable to the general public and help move or shape public opinion. I think the Matrix series helped many people to understand just how much we are part of an extremely negative and pervasive system. Do you think V might have the same effect on many people - that it might inspire them to question their governments and actually work for their own freedom?
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
Perhaps there are "V"s within Time Warner itself. ;^)
Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.
That is VERY possible. I'm sure every tyranny produces Winston Smiths and Vs. Some of them most succeed eventually.
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
For one, nobody will be moved by this film. Second, it will be panned, and shit on by every media outlet. Third, People are so fucking stupid that they'd never understand it, and just go to see it, because of the special effects. This movie will do NOTHING for anyone, other than entertain them. The people of this country are so incredibly dead inside that to think of being anti-government, or patriotic is an affront to those who died on 9-11. Terrorism is still one of those things that people don't understand. They'll see it, and think that it glorifies terrorism, NOT empowers people to change their worlds. I promise you, this movie will be out of the theaters in less than a month.
A mere movie could possibly do all that?
#4. To: Arator (#0)
#5. To: Esso (#4)
I want to call one of the government tattle-tale lines, but there's so many, I don't know which one to call.
#6. To: Arator (#0)
#7. To: mehitable (#6)
Money trumps everything.
#8. To: Arator (#3)
The key to reestablishing freedom is to master your fear, even your fear of death.
#9. To: Arator (#7)
#10. To: Arator (#0)
#11. To: Arator (#0)
#12. To: mehitable (#9)
I don't think they see the contradiction inherent in producing V and in supporting those "news" organizations. They're too deeply embedded to see outside of their cages.
#13. To: Arator (#12)
#14. To: Arator, *You Gotta Be Shitting Me* (#0)
 | What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?. |
#15. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#14)
Damn you're cynical, Tom. Of course, given the nightmare world we've been living in for at least a century and a half, you have every right to be. Still, I think there is reason for optimism. The 9-11 truth movement has come along way in 4 years. Sure, there's a long way to go yet. But it's progress. My hope is that this move prepares a seedbed in the minds of the sheeple where the truth can eventually take root. I suggest that you go see it, perhaps several times. Every ticket bought sends a message. And perhaps it will stampede the sheeple into seeing it despite themselves.
I promise you, this movie will be out of the theaters in less than a month.
Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.
#16. To: Esso (#4)
Damn, and I forgot to write down the homeland security toll free number off the side of the HS police car I was driving next to Thursday... Sorry dude ;-)
I want to call one of the government tattle-tale lines, but there's so many, I don't know which one to call.
"People who make you believe absurdities will make you commit atrocities..."
#17. To: Arator (#0)
Its a good movie. A little over the top for me, but for the sleeping sheep, it needs to be. Its not Matrix quality story telling or editing. The bottom line is the tree of liberty needs to be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.
#18. To: mehitable, christine, Arator (#6)
I posted the following on the other 'V' thread... Republicans and conservatives are making damn fools of themselves over the movie. For Pete's sake; it's based on a frickin' COMIC BOOK written back during the REAGAN administration by a British author who was all wound up over the "tyrannical" rule of Margaret Thatcher. As such; it is reasonably FAITHFUL to the source material. Those who think this movie was 'created out of the ether' solely to attack the current administration are narrow-monded morons...period. Movies based on comics are all the rage right now...another Superman and another X-Men are due later this year. This particular adaptation just features a storyline that makes 'bots' uncomfortable. Perhaps a guilty conscience? In any event; don't blame Hollywood for this one, folks...
#19. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#14)
Yep, 100% Tommy.
This movie will do NOTHING for anyone, other than entertain them. The people of this country are so incredibly dead inside that to think of being anti-government, or patriotic is an affront to those who died on 9-11.
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#20. To: Arator (#0)
Antonia Fraser's Faith and Treason is a great book about the Gunpowder Plot.
#21. To: Arator (#0)
I have heard it's an awesome movie that will prove to be controversial. I can't wait to see it.
Impeach Bush. The man was lost and then he was found and now he's more lost than ever -- and he's taking us into the darkness with him. It's time to remove him. By Garrison Keillor [2006-03-01]
#22. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#14)
Are there any T&A in it?
Third, People are so fucking stupid that they'd never understand it, and just go to see it, because of the special effects.
#23. To: Fred Mertz (#22)
If I say "yes" will you go see it?
Are there any T&A in it?
Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.
#24. To: Arator (#23)
You bet I will!
#25. To: christine, All (#1)
The movie is awesome and relevant to current events. I highly recommend it. I just wonder how this movie snuck pass the elite to even make it in theaters at all.
God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]
#26. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#14)
If it is then it will have nothing to do with its sales. This puppy is a blockbuster in the making and IMHO will wake many people up, it's just too powerful not to.
I promise you, this movie will be out of the theaters in less than a month.
God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]
#27. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#14)
I was, so you are wrong again mad Tommy. You highly underestimate the power a media source like this has on Americans and people in general.
For one, nobody will be moved by this film.
God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]
#28. To: mehitable (#11)
It already has, people coming out of this movie are in shock over what they have just seen and how closely it relates to current events. They couldn't have planned the release of this movie any better than they did.
Do you think V might have the same effect on many people - that it might inspire them to question their governments and actually work for their own freedom?
God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]
#29. To: scooter (#10)
I am also shocked the elite "let" this movie slip out. However this is the first I have heard of any attempt of them to stop this movie from coming out. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it is suddenly without warning pulled from all US theaters. See it while you can, and if you can, record it, this movie may not be around much longer.
I caught Glen Beck the other morning talking about V. He couldn't believe a movie like this was being shown at a time like this when America is fighting a war against terror. He said it glorified terrorism, glorified attacking a legitmate government, and just ought not to be allowed to be shown.
God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]
#30. To: RickyJ (#25)
No kidding. People will never watch CNN or Faux News the same way after seeing it. The Avian Flu hysteria will be discounted, as will all their other insane scaremongering and government/corporate-sponsored nonsense.
I just wonder how this movie snuck pass the elite to even make it in theaters at all.
Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.
#31. To: RickyJ, arator (#29)
I guess I'll take your word for it RickyJ and maybe I'll see it in next week or so. But the commercials look just plain evil. perhaps they just plain want us to accept them as the evil rulers over us. Perhaps they want us to know they rule over us and that they are evil.
#32. To: Red Jones (#31)
Yes, the fascist government depicted in the movie is as evil as our own. That it doesn't flinch at that and shows its evil is one of the movies great virtues. Viewers will not be able to resist the obvious parallels between the dystopic Britian portrayed in this movie and the unholy trinity's (Bush-Blair-Howard's) perverted Anglosphere.
But the commercials look just plain evil.
Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.
#33. To: Red Jones (#31)
Yes this movie is about supreme evil, but it is an evil we have been living with everyday in this country since 9/11. I rarely ever pay to see a movie in a theater twice, but I am going back today after only seeing it just last night, it's just too powerful to only see once. One point this movie makes clear, is to have any chance of defeating the supreme evil we are surrounded with, you must lose your fear of it. Fear is their number one weapon they have against us, if enough people lose their fear then we will truly have chance to take America back.
God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]
#34. To: RickyJ, Arator (#33)
well, my female friend won't want to see it, because she says 'its depressing' whenever we dwell on this stuff. I might go see it by myself then.
#35. To: Red Jones (#34)
I didn't find this movie to be depressing at all. I was uplifted by it. It gave me hope that we the people might yet prevail. That there are more "V"s, even within the establishment itself, than we fully appreciate. If it were not so, this movie would never have been made.
well, my female friend won't want to see it, because she says 'its depressing' whenever we dwell on this stuff. I might go see it by myself then.
Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.
#36. To: Arator (#35)
You might be right, there could be some real V's out there that got this movie out to start with, but that might not keep it out. I can see the government wanting to pull this movie as fast as possible before too much damage is done.
I didn't find this movie to be depressing at all. I was uplifted by it. It gave me hope that we the people might yet prevail. That there are more "V"s, even within the establishment itself, than we fully appreciate. If it were not so, this movie would never have been made.
God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]
#37. To: RickyJ (#28)
We're going to see it tonight and I'm really excited. I haven't looked forward to a movie for this long in ages. I know I'm probably blowing it up (so to speak) but there are so few decent, watchable political movies out there, anything is like water in the desert. :)
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
#38. To: Arator, Red Jones (#35)
Saw it today and need to see it again. I have only a few moments. I agree with what has been said about it. Its not as violent as some of the reviews make it to be. There is violence, no doubt. Silimar to "The Matrix" level of violence. People who are railing against this movie say it gives a black eye to Christianity. Not at all. Not unless you are willing to say 3 very corrupt people speak for the whole of the Church. What it is, in essence, is what is coming and how to stand up to it.
#39. To: scooter (#38)
It definitely attacks the false Christianity of today's GOP. It even lionizes lesbians and gays as the exploited scapegoats and political pawns of such moralizing hypocrites. Even though I'm usually put off by Hollywood's in-your- face promotion of a radical homosexual agenda, in this movie it did not bother me at all. After all,we have seen in this country how depraved murderous monsters have exploited the fear of the evil other (including homosexuals) to advance their criminal agenda. It would only be natural, then, that homosexuals would be in the vanguard of resisting same (though to balance it all out, they should have shown the Chancellor's cadre to be filled with darkside gays as Bush's admin obviously is...and Hitler's was).
People who are railing against this movie say it gives a black eye to Christianity. Not at all. Not unless you are willing to say 3 very corrupt people speak for the whole of the Church.
Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.
#40. To: who knows what evil (#18)
thanks for that info!
Those who think this movie was 'created out of the ether' solely to attack the current administration are narrow-monded morons...period.
The WTC couldn't have come down without a conspiracy. The perps weren't exactly working independent of each other.~Arete
#41. To: Arator, Zipporah, robin, christine (#0)
It fits in with my theory that the US is slated for destruction. On the surface it seems very odd indeed that Time Warner would put out such a movie and advertise it like crazy, unless they want people to get all worked up over it so a civil war can be set off in this country. I just don't see any other explanation. I think James Spader's speech on Boston Legal had the same intent. The PTB have been working overtime to get various groups, even men and women, to hate each other in this country.
The only thing I can't figure out is why Time Warner ever allowed such a movie to be made? It doesn't exactly depict BIG MEDIA in a favorable light. In fact, it's damning as hell of the CNNs and FoxNewsChannels of this world. Got any theories?
#42. To: Arator, Zippporah, Jethro Tull, robin. All (#3)
Yes that attitude will be most helpful to them when it comes time to cull the population. A lot of Iraqis have become truly free in this same way.
The key to reestablishing freedom is to master your fear, even your fear of death. Once that is acheived, the fascists have no more power and one becomes truly free.
#43. To: Diana (#42)
How can we follow?
How can we follow?...
Thanks for Prohibition and the war against drugs. Thanks for a country where nobody's allowed to mind their own business. Thanks for a nation of finks. Yes, thanks for all the memories-- all right let's see your arms!- William S Burroughs
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