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Title: See it. Live it. "V" for Vendetta!
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"V" for Vendetta
URL Source: http://vforvendetta.warnerbros.com/
Published: Mar 17, 2006
Author: Arator
Post Date: 2006-03-18 00:05:13 by Arator
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Keywords: Vendetta!, Live
Views: 465
Comments: 70
I just saw it...and WOW! This movie will wake people up. It might even equip them spiritually to first identify and then resist would-be tyrants and their sometimes eager goonsquads. The only thing I can't figure out is why Time Warner ever allowed such a movie to be made? It doesn't exactly depict BIG MEDIA in a favorable light. In fact, it's damning as hell of the CNNs and FoxNewsChannels of this world. Got any theories?
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#30. To: RickyJ (#25)
No kidding. People will never watch CNN or Faux News the same way after seeing it. The Avian Flu hysteria will be discounted, as will all their other insane scaremongering and government/corporate-sponsored nonsense.
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I guess I'll take your word for it RickyJ and maybe I'll see it in next week or so. But the commercials look just plain evil. perhaps they just plain want us to accept them as the evil rulers over us. Perhaps they want us to know they rule over us and that they are evil.
Yes, the fascist government depicted in the movie is as evil as our own. That it doesn't flinch at that and shows its evil is one of the movies great virtues. Viewers will not be able to resist the obvious parallels between the dystopic Britian portrayed in this movie and the unholy trinity's (Bush-Blair-Howard's) perverted Anglosphere.
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Yes this movie is about supreme evil, but it is an evil we have been living with everyday in this country since 9/11. I rarely ever pay to see a movie in a theater twice, but I am going back today after only seeing it just last night, it's just too powerful to only see once. One point this movie makes clear, is to have any chance of defeating the supreme evil we are surrounded with, you must lose your fear of it. Fear is their number one weapon they have against us, if enough people lose their fear then we will truly have chance to take America back.
God is always good! well, my female friend won't want to see it, because she says 'its depressing' whenever we dwell on this stuff. I might go see it by myself then.
I didn't find this movie to be depressing at all. I was uplifted by it. It gave me hope that we the people might yet prevail. That there are more "V"s, even within the establishment itself, than we fully appreciate. If it were not so, this movie would never have been made.
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You might be right, there could be some real V's out there that got this movie out to start with, but that might not keep it out. I can see the government wanting to pull this movie as fast as possible before too much damage is done.
God is always good! We're going to see it tonight and I'm really excited. I haven't looked forward to a movie for this long in ages. I know I'm probably blowing it up (so to speak) but there are so few decent, watchable political movies out there, anything is like water in the desert. :)
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
Saw it today and need to see it again. I have only a few moments. I agree with what has been said about it. Its not as violent as some of the reviews make it to be. There is violence, no doubt. Silimar to "The Matrix" level of violence. People who are railing against this movie say it gives a black eye to Christianity. Not at all. Not unless you are willing to say 3 very corrupt people speak for the whole of the Church. What it is, in essence, is what is coming and how to stand up to it.
It definitely attacks the false Christianity of today's GOP. It even lionizes lesbians and gays as the exploited scapegoats and political pawns of such moralizing hypocrites. Even though I'm usually put off by Hollywood's in-your- face promotion of a radical homosexual agenda, in this movie it did not bother me at all. After all,we have seen in this country how depraved murderous monsters have exploited the fear of the evil other (including homosexuals) to advance their criminal agenda. It would only be natural, then, that homosexuals would be in the vanguard of resisting same (though to balance it all out, they should have shown the Chancellor's cadre to be filled with darkside gays as Bush's admin obviously is...and Hitler's was).
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thanks for that info!
The WTC couldn't have come down without a conspiracy. The perps weren't exactly working independent of each other.~Arete
It fits in with my theory that the US is slated for destruction. On the surface it seems very odd indeed that Time Warner would put out such a movie and advertise it like crazy, unless they want people to get all worked up over it so a civil war can be set off in this country. I just don't see any other explanation. I think James Spader's speech on Boston Legal had the same intent. The PTB have been working overtime to get various groups, even men and women, to hate each other in this country.
Yes that attitude will be most helpful to them when it comes time to cull the population. A lot of Iraqis have become truly free in this same way.
How can we follow? Thanks for Prohibition and the war against drugs. Thanks for a country where nobody's allowed to mind their own business. Thanks for a nation of finks. Yes, thanks for all the memories-- all right let's see your arms!- William S Burroughs
Have you seen the movie? Would you rather live free or die? IMHO if you are content to live as a slave, you might as well be dead.
God is always good! Dang, I meant would you rather live as a slave or die? If we don't fight them, then we will remain their slaves.
God is always good! Nothing these guys do is by accident, including the importation of millions from south of the border. They are to be our replacements when the time comes.
Why should we hear about body bags, and deaths...I mean, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that? ~Barbara Bush on ABC's "Good Morning America," March 18, 2003.
I'm not much of a fighter by nature; I'd be best put to use working on the sidelines to help the injured.
I agree.
I find it interesting that you and Arator say that same thing about losing fear.
Hey, some (Glen Beck) have already come out and said this movie should not have been allowed to even be shown. I don't know how or why this has gotten out, but I am glad it did. No, this movie is not perfect, but its close enough for now. Maybe it got through the censors because the main character wears a mask; maybe they thought it was jut a comic book movie that had no real relevance to today's events. If they thought this, then they couldn't be more wrong.
God is always good! Like the General Byrne who was fired last summer after a possible coup attempt?
The Times is the original elite establishment mouthpiece organ. So it's not too surprising that they are panning it. The Times will line the ashbin of history Bush, Blair and all their minions will soon be delivered into.
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They may have revealed their hand a little to plainly.
Why should we hear about body bags, and deaths...I mean, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that? ~Barbara Bush on ABC's "Good Morning America," March 18, 2003.
Get a load of this. I doubt this person actually saw the movie: Yahoo User Reviews All that I will say, is that this movie portrays terrorists as the good guys, and all troops who fight against them are just interferring with these poor terrorists' everyday lives. this is unsupportive of our current day troops' efforts to control terrorism. I highly discourage all from viewing this film, and, if you truly support our troops, support them even more by refusing to watch this film and instead by writing a thank you letter to a soldier. Hollywood should be ashamed for making such an anti-American film ---oh wait, weren't they already anti-American? no need for an answer, as it is quite obvious. Have a nice day. May God Bless America and all soldiers who risk their lives to fight off terrorism so that we may have the freedom to go safely watch movies. And then there's this: After movies like this, they should wonder no more. Normal Americans don't want to see some tripe about how evil they truly are. Why can't film makers go back to making entertaining movies and stop the politicizing? Because their hate for Bush blinds them to the point that they no longer are able to know quality when they see it. Any time excrement like Brokeback Mountain is nominated for an Oscar and Cinderella Man is almost completely ignored, you know that the Michael Moores of the world have overrun Hollywood. What really amazes me is how quickly Hollywood has gone insane... only 3-4 years ago, Russell Crowe was an instant Oscar nominee... now, the only time Hollywood media mentions him is in reference to his ability to throw phones with exceptional accuracy. A real beauty (partial quote): ...But then again, why do I care about the leftist propaganda, as long as we have the presidency, senate majority, and the supreme court locked down, I guess the least they can have is their movies! And Arator, One "conservative" who had a seed planted that you talked about: What can I say about this movie that hasn't already been said? It seems to have divided reviewers by conservative/liberal lines as does everything nowadays. But I really believe the film is more than that. As a Philosophy major in college, I guess I am a little biased by liking the power of ideas, which this movie emphasizes. As a "right-winger", I think it is important to remember the ideas that made this country great, including free-speech. I see very many people trashing this movie as liberal propaganda, and all its saying is to guard your freedom, lest you turn your country into a totalitarian state by giving up your civil rights slowly. Now, having voted for bush twice, I have to say that there are things I don't agree with him on, and that's OK. I'm not Liberal. I don't have to Lock-Step with my party. I can question. And honestly, I do believe if we continue on our current course, something like the goverment in this movie will occur. But we're still free now. Go see this movie to appreciate why and let it be a warning. Does it glorify revolution? In a way. I don't hear anyone pointing out how "wrong" it was to revolt against Britain. Why? V says that a goverment should be afraid of its people. In a democracy, that should always be the case. I hoped this shed a little light on the politics of this film and not have people automatically dub it liberal. Honestly, haven't we had enough of Conservative/Liberal? If it's not one, its the other. What about some moderation?
Remember when people saw Lord Of The Rings? Remember how many people on this forum and others said that it would move them to act??? Oh FUCKING PLEASE... Those of us who read the graphic novel back in the 1980's, know what it was about. It's about a tortured guy who seeks revenge. Well, I guess if it were to REALLY move a bunch of potential V's, it would be people who are already in our prisons. The people of this country, are inherently stupid when it comes to getting a message. They do absolutely nothing when it comes to their fellow citizen being assrammed by the government. All those people who are being sent to jail for not paying their taxes, are looked on with disdain, and with fear as well. The people of this country are stupified. They're lazy, and worse, fearful of anything that draws attention to them. If you had a big name football star, or actor preach to the high heavens against the government and asked the people to rise up, they'd do absolutely nothing. There is and will never be a second American Revolution because the people simply are too fucking stupid, and too complicit in the tyranny that will soon make current events look like a tea party. You can better goddamn well believe that NOBODY will be moved to action, and the crackpots who do, will be labeled as nuts, terrorists, or worse, and more importantly, informed on by their fellow citizens. You are so completely delusional to think that this movie is going to bring change. If it does, it will be so long term that by the time change gets here it will already be far too late. I do not underestimate the stupidity of the American People. After all, the government BANKS ON IT, TRADES ON IT, TEACHES IT, REWARDS IT, AND ENFORCES MASS STUPIDITY TO ENSURE ITS POWER.
I just wonder how this movie snuck pass the elite to even make it in theaters at all.
#31. To: RickyJ, arator (#29)
#32. To: Red Jones (#31)
But the commercials look just plain evil.
#33. To: Red Jones (#31)
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]
#34. To: RickyJ, Arator (#33)
#35. To: Red Jones (#34)
well, my female friend won't want to see it, because she says 'its depressing' whenever we dwell on this stuff. I might go see it by myself then.
#36. To: Arator (#35)
I didn't find this movie to be depressing at all. I was uplifted by it. It gave me hope that we the people might yet prevail. That there are more "V"s, even within the establishment itself, than we fully appreciate. If it were not so, this movie would never have been made.
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]
#37. To: RickyJ (#28)
#38. To: Arator, Red Jones (#35)
#39. To: scooter (#38)
People who are railing against this movie say it gives a black eye to Christianity. Not at all. Not unless you are willing to say 3 very corrupt people speak for the whole of the Church.
#40. To: who knows what evil (#18)
Those who think this movie was 'created out of the ether' solely to attack the current administration are narrow-monded morons...period.
#41. To: Arator, Zipporah, robin, christine (#0)
The only thing I can't figure out is why Time Warner ever allowed such a movie to be made? It doesn't exactly depict BIG MEDIA in a favorable light. In fact, it's damning as hell of the CNNs and FoxNewsChannels of this world. Got any theories?
#42. To: Arator, Zippporah, Jethro Tull, robin. All (#3)
The key to reestablishing freedom is to master your fear, even your fear of death. Once that is acheived, the fascists have no more power and one becomes truly free.
#43. To: Diana (#42)
How can we follow?...
#44. To: Diana (#42)
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]
#45. To: Diana (#44)
Would you rather live free or die?
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]
#46. To: RickyJ (#25)
I highly recommend it. I just wonder how this movie snuck pass the elite to even make it in theaters at all.
#47. To: RickyJ (#25)
#48. To: RickyJ (#45)
If we don't fight them, then we will remain their slaves.
#49. To: RickyJ, TommyTheMadArtist, Arator (#27)
I was, so you are wrong again mad Tommy. You highly underestimate the power a media source like this has on Americans and people in general.
#50. To: RickyJ, Arator (#33)
One point this movie makes clear, is to have any chance of defeating the supreme evil we are surrounded with, you must lose your fear of it. Fear is their number one weapon they have against us, if enough people lose their fear then we will truly have chance to take America back.
#51. To: Diana (#46)
Nothing these guys do is by accident, including the importation of millions from south of the border.
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]
#52. To: Arator (#35)
That there are more "V"s, even within the establishment itself, than we fully appreciate.
#53. To: robin (#47)
One star from The Times (UK)
#54. To: Arator (#53)
#55. To: Arator (#39)
#56. To: RickyJ (#27)
 | What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?. |
#57. To: RickyJ, Diana, *You Gotta Be Shitting Me* (#45)
Okay Ricky, the movie moved you so much, DID YOU FILE YOUR FUCKING TAXES??? This movie might be great business, but it is NOT going to be the thing that moves the masses. Remember the Matrix Movies? Same deal. Lord Of The Rings, Same Deal. Star Wars Franchise, Same Deal. The government has nothing to fear from movies. They certainly have nothing to fear from a pacified people, or a group of morons. They already control terrorism, and use it the same way all governments have used terrorism in the past, as a means and form of control. V for Vendetta is not the kind of movie that will move people. If the 9-11 movies, and all the truth movements can't move people, then a fictional movie such as V for Vendetta will not do anything more than make a few people angry, but that's about it. You have this vain hope that a film will change the paradigm of America, but it won't. The only thing that will, will be when the purges come, and when that happens, pray you're on the right side of the fence.
| What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?. |
#58. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#57)
I didn't say it would change America, I said it could. The mass media has undue influence over the sheeple, so much so that if they don't hear it from them then they don't believe it. Movies are another form of mass media that reaches sheeple that never would have been reached otherwise. There is power is numbers, the more people that start to think that it is possible that our government did 9/11, the better. So yes, this movie is a move in the right direction, it is number one this weekend despite the boycott of some conservative organizations and I predict it will only have a slight fall in sales next weekend. I believe this movie has legs that will make it a movie that can't possibly be ignored by the elite.
You have this vain hope that a film will change the paradigm of America, but it won't.
God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]
#59. To: Arator, RickyJ (#0)
thank you for pointing me to this movie. I saw it. It was a great movie. very entertaining. and the good guys won in the end.
#60. To: Red Jones (#59)
Yep. I was grinning from ear to ear when it was over. Glad ya liked it, Red.
thank you for pointing me to this movie. I saw it. It was a great movie. very entertaining. and the good guys won in the end.
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#61. To: robin (#47)
And guess who owns The Times? None other than Rupert Murdoch. I suspect he was not amused by the movie's portrayal of the BTN (fictional version of the BBC). By the way, Rupert Murdoch is a graduate of my Oxford college, Worcester College. They didn't tell us when I was there that someone else who studied there when Worcester College was Gloucester Hall was the leading conspirator of the Gunpowder Plot, Robert Catesby. I am reminded by my current reading of Michael Wood's Shakespeare that Catesby and his family were from the same part of England as Shakespeare. In fact, my recollection from Antonia Fraser's Faith and Treason is that Catesby frequented the same tavern in London as Shakespeare.
One star from The Times (UK)
#62. To: aristeides (#61)
The Times was the original house
organ of Rhodes' Rountable groups, which in turn spawned the RIIA in the UK and
the CFR here. It doesn't get anymore inbred and establishment than that. Of
course, Oxford is a pillar of that establishment, so that fact that Murdoch went
there makes perfect sense. He's a tool of the same cabal that brought us Lenin,
Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Blair, Howard and Bush.
And guess who owns The Times? None other than Rupert Murdoch. I
suspect he was not amused by the movie's portrayal of the BTN (fictional version
of the BBC).
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#63. To: Red Jones (#59)
It wasn't bad at all, but I hear the book was even better. Can't wait to read it.
thank you for pointing me to this movie. I saw it. It was a great movie. very entertaining. and the good guys won in the end.
God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]
#64. To: Arator (#62)
I heard that they originally planned to release this movie on November the 5th 2005 but for some reason delayed it. I don't know for sure, but guess that it could have been delayed by the government. Britain is ripe for revolution, much more so than the USA is. Maybe they were scared some one would try to blow up the British parliament building on November the 5th 2006 if it was released on November the 5th 2005 as planned. Also they knew fewer people would see it if it were released in a March weekend than a November weekend. Movies generally do better in November than March. It would be interesting to discover the true reason they delayed this movie until Saint Patrick’s day.
God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]
#65. To: Arator, RickyJ (#62)
I thought it was so fascinating they used this Guy Fawkes legend in the Vendetta movie. http://www.infoplease.com/s pot/guyfawkes.html I had this english female friend and she told me in great detail how when she grew up in england they had a big thing every November 5 where they stood around bonfires and burned in effigy Guy Fawkes. This guy Guy Fawkes he was a rebel who in 1605 engaged in a plot against the government involving an effort to blow up a building. but he was caught and burned in a bonfire. And the english used that incident as a nation-building event. They got their people to celebrate the death of guy fawkes every year. Kind of like the July 4 holiday in america really. a story that unified the nation and ridiculed any opponents to the nation.
#66. To: aristeides (#61)
And guess who owns The Times? None other than Rupert Murdoch. I suspect he was not amused by the movie's portrayal of the BTN (fictional version of the BBC). Rather foolish to let on how much this movie actually bothers them. I wonder if filmmakers were aware of any of this local history.
One star from The Times (UK)
Why should we hear about body bags, and deaths...I mean, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that? ~Barbara Bush on ABC's "Good Morning America," March 18, 2003.
#67. To: Red Jones (#65)
I don't know how popular or not the tradition is now, but children were still asking for a "penny for the guy" when I was studying at Oxford some 30 years ago. By the way, "guy," meaning "fellow," comes from Guy Fawkes.
The celebrations, which in the United Kingdom take place in towns and villages across the country, involve fireworks displays and the building of bonfires on which "guys", or dummies, representing Guy Fawkes, the most famous of the conspirators are burnt. Before the fifth, children use the dummies to beg for money with the chant "Penny for the guy", but this tradition is no longer as popular as it once was.
#68. To: aristeides (#67)
You studied at Oxford? Perhaps you are much more of an inside-V than we thought. ;^)
I don't know how popular or not the tradition is now, but children were still asking for a "penny for the guy" when I was studying at Oxford some 30 years ago.
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#69. To: Arator (#60)
Me too, A. I'm going again :)
Yep. I was grinning from ear to ear when it was over.
#70. To: Jethro Tull (#69)
Me too. But, this time, I'm having the IMAX experience. Did you know its also showing in IMAX theatres? Check and see if you have one in your area. I do.
Me too, A. I'm going again :)
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