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Ron Paul See other Ron Paul Articles Title: What’s So Great About Voting? I cant take it anymore. I have heard so much mindless propaganda urging us to vote that I was forced to push back. This is like shooting fish in a barrel. First, if voting is so great, why we do have to be constantly harangued, bullied, hectored and bribed into engaging in this marvelous activity? Why do only half or less of the population vote in any given election? Lets ask the question a different way. What percentage of kids fail to show up when Mom says, breakfast is ready? They show up because they expect to receive a major benefit from showing up, especially when weighed against the minimal costs of running downstairs and grabbing a chair. We have our answer. Most people either dont vote or do so out of habit or inertia and with little enthusiasm because they realize that the marginal benefit of doing so is so close to zero that only a mathematician could tell the difference. The media love to tout the occasional close race decided by a few votes, however, these are rare and it is rarer still when a different result would have resulted in any real impact on the voters life. From the standpoint of pure logic, voting is not rational for the individual. Progressivism: A Prime... James Ostrowski Best Price: $12.61 Buy New $12.95 (as of 09:35 EST - Details) Lets say it takes only a half hour to vote and lets say you drive three miles round trip to do so. Surely, the average Americans time is worth at least $20 per hour. The cost of driving your car for three miles is about $1.50 and that does not even factor in the risk of getting into an accident on the way or being victimized by a crime. Thus the economic cost of voting is, on average, at least $11.50. Looked at another way, there are many valuable things you could do in a half an hour if you did not vote: take a nap, walk around the block, read an article by Murray Rothbard or listen to a Tom Woods podcast. It makes little sense to pay these costs for an activity whose marginal benefit is effectively zero. This is precisely why they are constantly begging us to vote. Second, the propaganda is aimed at those who are the most ignorant and least concerned citizens. How are their votes going to add to the quality of the result? While awaiting that answer, I will move on. Lets analyze the statement: you should vote. There are a number of elements in that exhortation: the speaker, the voter, the act of voting, the candidate and their platform. The Speaker. So someone you dont know tells you to vote. Say what? First, I want to know what their agenda is. No one ever asks. It is safe to assume though that the speaker has an agenda they believe will be advanced if the targeted audience votes. Alas, the poor prospective voter is not informed about the hidden agenda. In any event, the speaker does not know you or what your political predilections are. If those urging you to vote really cared about you, they would try to find out why you dont vote and respond accordingly. Some people dont vote because they view it as a waste of time. Some people dont vote because what they want is not on the menu! There may be other reasons as well. Some people dont vote because they dont want to be seen as endorsing a system of centralized coercion they view as evil. Asking a philosophical non-voter to vote is like inviting a vegan out to a steakhouse. The vote police do not appear to really care about non-voters and their welfare and why they dont vote. Rather, they are pursuing their own agenda and hiding it from the non-voters. That is why they urge people to vote even though many of these people oppose the agenda of any candidate likely to win. Hence, they are being manipulated to provide a faux consent to policies and candidates they explicitly oppose. The non-voter is being conned by the vote police. The Voter. Why are we urging every citizen to vote? Do they know anything about policy, economics, foreign policy, etc. Given the obvious decline in schools and colleges in the last few decades, this may be the most ignorant populace since the founding of the Jamestown colony in 1607. Its worse than ignorance though as the false ideologies of progressivism and leftism have been drummed into our youth for many years. That is our fault not theirs but it is true nevertheless. It makes no sense to urge ignorant, gullible or easily manipulated people to vote. It makes no sense to urge greedy people to vote when they will simply vote for those who promise to give them the most free stuff by taking it from the productive sector of society. It makes little sense to urge people to vote who favor putting those they hate into concentration camps or dropping nuclear bombs on them. Thus, the notion that we would all be better off if everyone voted is obvious nonsense. Voting. What about the act of voting itself. Vote for what? What are people voting for? These seem to be fair questions. Its been a long time since any government remotely resembling the peace-keeping minimal state existed, so voting today for the vast majority of people is a choice to vote for candidates who support and propose various forms and amounts of state violence against people. It is true that for a tiny minority of voters such as libertarians, they may be voting or trying to vote against such state violence but these voters constitute no more than ten percent of the voting population. The other ninety percent are voting for aggressive state violencegovernment violence against peaceful peoplein various amounts. If indeed you are voting to endorse candidates who favor aggressive state violence, then you are essentially deputizing other people to use violence against other people. Yet, we are expected to believe that this behavior is somehow heroic. The Impeachment of Bar... Michael Ostrowski, Jam... Best Price: $7.36 Buy New $11.44 (as of 09:35 EST - Details) The Candidate. The person you vote for is not your agent and once elected, you will have zero control over him or her. The use of the term representative creates confusion on this point but it remains true that whatever you call elected officials, you do not control them. Worse yet, in almost all cases, elected officials do not even know you other than a quick hello for some local officials. They know nothing about you and in the case of the most important officials, will not take your phone call unless you a heavy donor. The candidate has no idea why you voted for him, whether it was because of character or issues, and if issues, which ones, or whether it was a protest vote against the other candidate. Thus, it is impossible for him to represent your true intentions in any meaningful way. Since you dont control candidates in any way, you cant hold them to their campaign promises, assuming they made any that were specific. Many candidates run on bland platforms that do not even specify what they will do if elected. The exceptions prove the rule. Ron Paul comes to mind as a candidate who reliably did in office what he said he would do when running. Its a very short list. On the other hand, the list of candidates who betrayed campaign promises even on major issues such as war and peace is very long, for example, Wilson, FDR, LBJ and both Bushes. The Platform. I have already alluded to this issue throughout this article. What will the person you vote for actually do in office? The voter usually does not know and even if he did know, almost always lacks the expertise to determine whether the candidates platform will be good or bad for himself or for society. That being the case, as I have explained elsewhere, people often vote for the candidates most similar to them in race, ethnicity and religion. In lieu of spending many days, weeks or months studying the issues and the candidates or mastering the complex disciplines required to evaluate their policy stances, a large number of voters use similarity as a cheap and easy substitute for research. The assumption is that, a candidate who is like me in race, ethnicity and religion, will tend to represent my interests better than a candidate who is different from me. Therefore, democracy intrinsically leads to tribalism and conflict. Each group will attempt to limit the voting power of other groups through well-established tactics like gerrymandering, fraud, suppression, arcane registration requirements, limiting the number of polling places in the other groups neighborhoods, and ultimately, using immigration to bolster their groups voting power, or, on the other hand, restricting immigration for the same reason. Thus it is that democracy, which we were told was an efficient method to peacefully resolve disputes, actually leads to the type of constant conflict among groups we see played out daily on the television news. Democracy does not ameliorate conflict; it generates conflict. It does not eliminate the essential nature of the state as a violent institution; it only masks that nature. It is the nature of the state itself, as an institution that systematically uses aggressive violence, each instance of which creates winners and losers, that is the cause of escalating conflict in America. Unless we wake up, the misplaced reliance on democracy and voting as a means to resolve conflicts among individuals and groups, will lead us all the way to the brink of civil war as it has done already in other countries and in our own country in 1861! Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top Page Up Full Thread Page Down Bottom/Latest
#1. To: Ada (#0)
I have been voting for 50 years and every thing I vote it makes me proud to be an American. No matter what people say, I thing that my one vote does count. Remember all the places that people are not allowed to vote
Democracy is two foxes and a goose deciding who's for dinner. From the 1928 US Army Field Manual for those who still think we have a ''Democracy" "...but the best and simplest definitions are printed in this Training Manual, presented here in its entirety. Democracy: A government of the masses. Authority derived through mass meeting or any other form of "direct" expression. Results in mobocracy. Attitude toward property is communistic x97 negating property rights. Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate, whether it be based upon deliberation or governed by passion, prejudice, and impulse, without restraint or regard to consequences. Results in demagogism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy. Republic: Authority is derived through the election by the people of public officials best fitted to represent them. Attitude toward property is respect for laws and individual rights, and a sensible economic procedure. Attitude toward law is the administration of justice in accord with fixed principles and established evidence, with a strict regard to consequences. A greater number of citizens and extent of territory may be brought within its compass. Avoids the dangerous extreme of either tyranny or mobocracy. Results in statesmanship, liberty, reason, justice, contentment, and progress. Is the "standard form" of government throughout the world. A republic is a form of government under a constitution which provides for the election of (1) an executive and (2) a legislative body, who working together in a representative capacity, have all the power of appointment, all power of legislation, all power to raise revenue and appropriate expenditures, and are required to create (3) a judiciary to pass upon the justice and legality of their governmental acts and to recognize (4) certain inherent individual rights. Take away any one or more of those four elements and you are drifting into autocracy. Add one or more to those four elements and you are drifting into democracy. x97 Atwood. https://www.datalounge.com/thread/6323637-from-the-1928-us-army-field-manual- for-those-who-still-think-we-have-a-democracy- at this point I'd give them both a big fat F. ++++++++++++ Isaiah 10:20And it shall come to pass in that day, that the remnant of Israel, and such as are escaped of the house of Jacob, shall no more again stay upon him that smote them; but shall stay upon the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, in truth. https://biblehub.com/isaiah/10-20.htm https://biblehub.com/kjv/isaiah/10.htm "...But the thing displeased Samuel when they said, Give us a king to judge us. So Samuel prayed to the LORD. And the LORD said to Samuel, Heed the voice of the people in all that they say to you; for they have not rejected you, but they have rejected Me, that I should not reign over them. According to all the works which they have done since the day that I brought them up out of Egypt, even to this daywith which they have forsaken Me and served other godsso they are doing to you also...." https://enduringword.com/bible-commentary/1-samuel-8/ (2nd) Israel (Christian America: https://www.wnd.com/2007/04/41327/print/ ) Demanded A King (or had one foisted on them!): I SMELL A RAT - Patrick Henry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvGojwGMBHo (clip 3 1/2 minutes) Deuteronomy 28 https://biblehub.com/kjv/deuteronomy/28.htm "...The wooden cross of Cape Henry is now gone forever yet another artifact lost to the ravages of time. But the covenant established on that day remains binding. As we remember the 400th anniversary of the First Landing, our people would be well served to acknowledge that once upon a time Americans thought of themselves as a nation committed to the Savior of Rev. Hunt and all of the true believers gathered on that windy beach centuries ago. And as we consider our providential heritage, we would be wise to recall that there is yet hope for our nation if we embrace the principle found in the following Scripture: If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land. (II Chronicles 7:14)" The Enduring Legacy of the First Landing https://www.wnd.com/2007/04/41327/print/ BTW, the first American Thanksgiving was in Virginia. http://jamestownecalifornia.org/the-first-american-thanksgiving-was-in- virginia/ =============================== Another prophecy I believe to be for Christians in America: Ezekiel 20 33As I live, saith the Lord GOD, surely with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out, will I rule over you: 34And I will bring you out from the people, and will gather you out of the countries wherein ye are scattered, with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out. 35And I will bring you into the wilderness of the people, and there will I plead with you face to face. 36Like as I pleaded with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so will I plead with you, saith the Lord GOD. 37And I will cause you to pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the [[NEW]] covenant: 38And I will purge out from among you the rebels, and them that transgress against me: ..." https://biblehub.com/kjv/ezekiel/20.htm THE CHURCH IS ISRAEL NOW http://www.preteristarchive.com/PartialPreterism/provan-charles_dd_01.html Galatians 3:29 And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs to the promise. https://www.biblehub.com/galatians/3-29.htm "...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
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