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Title: Why doesn’t God end our Serial Wars?
Source: We Hold These Truths
URL Source: http://www.whtt.org/index.php?news=2&id=767
Published: Mar 18, 2006
Author: Charles E. Carlson
Post Date: 2006-03-19 13:07:16 by Red Jones
Keywords: doesn’t, Serial, Wars?
Views: 102
Comments: 5

Why doesn’t God end our Serial Wars?

Charles E. Carlson Mar 18, 2006

To those of us who wonder when our warring leaders will be satisfied and bring about an end to conflict around the world…the answer is “NEVER.”

In the eyes of our political leaders in both parties, war continues to be a necessity to carry out their agenda. We Hold These Truths has exposed that agenda in the past, and those who do not understand it can find lots to read about this on our website.

History is an account of what happens between inexplicable wars. And it rarely provides a logical reason for war. History books seldom tell us our leaders wanted to strengthen their power or increase their wealth, and war is the time-honored path of political choice. Nor are we reminded that wars are invariably started by the stronger member, not the weaker one.

We Hold These Truths has said over and over again, it is our responsibility (if we claim to follow Jesus) to do everything in our power to end the killing. Those of us who live in the USA still think we are the authority over our government, and unless and until we are shown to the contrary, we must keep on trying to control politicians.

WE MUST DO OUR BEST… or must we? Why can’t I just go along for the ride like so many who say, “we can’t win anyway, so it’s best to stay out of the way"? This is a statement we hear all the time. It too, has a simple answer: It’s our job to try to resist because God says we must represent Him and His law as long as we have breath. This is supposed to be what Christianity is all about, that is, if you use Jesus Christ as a guide.

An objective person looking at the control mechanism now running our world might well conclude he had better NOT believe in God, lest his conscience force him to resist the irresistible. Those of our readers who have given up on God may feel they have a free pass, but not those who follow Christ. We do not have an option in the matter, Jesus does not give us a pass, when he said “Blessed are the Peacemakers” he also demonstrated that he meant it.

IT’S THE CHURCHES, DUMMY As we say over and over again…the primary enablers of war today are America’s evangelical (“Christian-Zionist”) churches. They can hardly escape being enablers of our present war in the Mideast because war against Islam is in their doctrine! It is part of their creed necessitated by their support of an Israeli state.

We Hold These Truths is not the only one who has written and recorded much to demonstrate that Christian-Zionism is a religion fallen away from Christianity. Celebrity churchmen who call themselves “evangelicals” blow the trumpet our leaders want to hear…that Christ permits (if not demands) war against Islam. In return for this scriptural lie, they are helped to become the celebrity Christians who receive access to the media, tax-free status for huge church businesses, publicity, friendly regulation, and an open field for self-promotion. Most important, the public standards of racism are ignored when Christian-Zionists denounce Islam.

Christian Zionist (“the Christian Right”) celebrities are the oracles for the unfettered and unapologetic anti-Islam media of our day. Their appointed job in the Neo-Con order of the new world is to campaign every day for more serial wars against Islam. They do it! Whenever you hear someone like Franklin Graham make a racially hateful statement against Muslims he is carrying out his appointed mission in the politicians’ War on Islam*.

God will not end our Serial wars because he has left this very tough job to the followers of Christ. Every man (whatever his church) who says he follows Jesus must necessarily work for and pray for peace. As part of this peace mission he ought to visit a Mosque. Why? Because Muslims who worship in Mosques also want an end to the Serial wars, they have this in common with followers of Christ. So why not get to know them? I think Jesus would.

You will even find a few followers of Christ bumbling around in perplexity inside every evangelical church. Help them come out into the truth of Christ! Here is the account of one such visit to a Mosque by Tom Compton, a founder of We Hold These Truths and Strait Gate Ministries.

below is the account of the trip to a Mosque

Visiting a Mosque

by

Tom Compton

My friend Chuck called to ask me if I’d like to go with him to an open house at a mosque in Tempe, AZ. Having never been in a mosque, I thought that it would be an interesting experience but wondered if I would need a bullet proof vest or an assault rifle to protect myself during the visit. After all, haven’t we been warned by numerous government and Christian leaders that the Muslims are out to create a holy war against us infidels?

We parked our shoes on the ground floor of the mosque and walked up to the second floor into the prayer and worship room. There were about 50 visitors in attendance plus members of the mosque who filtered in during the open house portion of the service. After the open house, their regular Friday night service would be conducted. It was easy to spot the visitors because they were sitting in chairs. It was explained that during the service and prayer time the flock was either standing, sitting or bowing down on the floor. The men are in the front and the women in the rear with a curtain that could be drawn by the women if they wanted privacy.

The Imam, the Islamic equivalent of a pastor or priest, was giving a Power Point presentation on the fundamental beliefs of Islam. Part way through the presentation, the Imam said that they would break for a brief prayer session and we were invited to observe how this part of their worship is conducted. Muslims are required to pray 5 times a day, this one lasted about 10 minutes. A group of more than a dozen men came to the front to participate in the prayers. The chanting and prayers were in Arabic but there seemed to be a similarity to a Catholic worship service in that both services are composed of ritual elements.

The Imam continued with a discussion on the life of Muhammad and other prophets they recognize and revere: Abraham, Moses and Jesus. Interestingly, the Imam said that they recognized that Jesus was born of the Virgin Mary with no earthly father. It seems curious to me that because of Jesus’ uniqueness ascribed by Muslims that He should receive a higher status in Islam than he does. The Imam said Muslims recognize Mohammad as the last prophet of Allah (God) but claim not to worship him. Judaism doesn’t recognize Jesus, but the Muslims do. Does this mean that followers of Mohammad are closer to God than those of Judaism?

Next, the Imam opened the floor for questions. The Imam and a woman who he identified as “his boss” meaning she was a layman from the mosque congregation, fielded the questions. One person asked about the apparent unequal treatment of women as exhibited by the women sitting in the back of the mosque and other examples demonstrated in the Muslim world.

It was explained by the Imam that because of the frequent bowing down during the service that having women in the front could be a distraction to the men worshippers who are to be focusing on Allah.

A statement by Muhammad sheds some light on the subject: “O People: It is true that you have certain rights in regard to your women, but they also have rights over you. Remember that you have taken them as your wives, only under God’s trust and with His permission…Do treat your women well and be kind to them, for they are your partners and committed helpers…”

Another visitor asked about the Islamic “Jihad” against Christians and if Muslims were committed to the destruction of infidels. It was explained by the Imam and the other lady that Jihad is not a word that just translates into “war”. Its meaning could be better defined as “a struggle against something.” Another person wanted to know about all the killing done by Muslims. The Imam said that their religion does not condone killing. In the Imam’s accompanying notes to his presentation, a quotation attributed to the Prophet Muhammad’s last sermon is noteworthy: “All mankind is from Adam and Eve. An Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor does a non-Arab have any superiority over an Arab; also, a white has no superiority over a black, nor a black has any superiority over a white – except by piety and good action…”

Another visitor in the audience recounted that when her family was based in Turkey they were treated beautifully by the Muslims in that country.

There is no doubt that there are some Muslims who want to “get” us. But, as I pointed out in some general comments I made to the assembly: the United States was also guilty of killing millions of innocent people needlessly in the steady stream of serial wars that the U.S. fosters and perpetuates. I said that as a follower of Christ that I could see no justification for what the U.S. has done in Iraq. I pointed out that the war in Iraq was not legal because our Constitution does not give the President the power to declare war. Only Congress has been given the power to declare war. Also, I pointed out that our President claims he is a Christian. His actions are certainly at a variance to the teachings of Jesus. No wonder the world is so mixed up about what Christians say they believe and what they advocate. Applause originated from a number of the members of the mosque after making my comments.

Upon my sitting down, another visitor jumped up to strongly disagree with me and question my patriotism. He claimed that he was a veteran and had defended our freedom. Then, a number of the visitors applauded him. It is a sad commentary to think how the American public has been brainwashed to think of Muslims as a threat to us. Any honest person when reviewing the facts will see how dangerous the United States’ policy of wars for “democracy” really is. Many Americans believe that the United States is somehow morally superior to anybody else on the planet and is the universal dispensing agent of truth and justice. Applying Jesus’ directive to love your neighbor as yourself still sounds valid to me.

If you have a chance to visit a mosque, don’t hesitate to do so. I felt warmly received during my visit. Compare this to downright animosity received on occasion from some of my “bloodthirsty brothers in Christ” when standing outside their churches holding a sign that simply says: “Choose Life, Not War.”

Tom Compton is a founder of We Hold These Truths and Strait Gate Ministries.

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#1. To: Red Jones (#0)

Excellent information and post - thanks.

Lod  posted on  2006-03-19   13:18:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Red Jones (#0)

Why doesn’t God end our Serial Wars?

Maybe because the monotheistic concept of God as some guy on a throne is deeply in error?

Gold and silver are real money, paper is but a promise.

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2006-03-19   15:43:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Elliott Jackalope (#2)

from a logical point of view that is a legitimate view. But I don't buy it.

I think that people are assuming that man is the center of all and that god should serve us and protect us for our comfort and our desires. but people underestimate god's desire to shake us up and change our mindset and teach us that god is to be the center of our concerns, not man or the false idols that man creates.

But I agree with the author Carlson that we have an obligation to oppose the evil ones who cause these wars, even if we will not be successful in opposing them.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-03-19   21:07:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Red Jones, All (#3)

Good article and good comments.

Diana  posted on  2006-03-20   5:08:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Diana (#4)

I don't blame Elliott for having a different view. he is very logical. I take what I consider to be a radical christian view because I disagree with most of the christians. The author above I like, but he asks a question that I wouldn't ask. Let me say why. Because below are quotes from Matthew 24. and in Matthew 24 is where jesus gives us his view of the season of the end prior to jesus' return.

Mat 24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all [these things] must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

Mat 24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

Mat 24:8 All these [are] the beginning of sorrows.

Mat 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

Mat 24:10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.

Mat 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

Mat 24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

Mat 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Mat 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

Mat 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

If you believe that these are the end times, then you must accept that these wars are going to occur. I think that Carlson is right that we should speak against these wars, but we're not going to win that argument IMHO. The above passage is attributed to jesus and you see that he specifically refers to the abomination that is described in Daniel. And if you read Daniel you'll see that this abomination is to be a culminating event where babylon is destroyed in cataclysmic sudden and total violence. and a similar description is given in Revelation.

I think we're foolish to think that just because we say 'god bless america' that god will bless america. god has his agenda. we have ours'. it's two different things. America is a nation in rebellion.

But note above in jesus' words he tells us not to be concerned about these things. we should take that advice. We should not nurture our fear. We should nurture our faith. We should do as carlson says and be a witness. even to the end.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-03-20   6:39:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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