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Title: Conservatives to Trump: You caved!
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URL Source: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli ... ved/ar-BBSJYC6?ocid=spartandhp
Published: Jan 25, 2019
Author: Matthew Choi
Post Date: 2019-01-25 17:17:59 by Ada
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Conservatives had a quick message for President Donald Trump after he announced a deal to end the government shutdown without funds for his border wall: You caved! "Good news for George Herbert Walker Bush: As of today, he is no longer the biggest wimp ever to serve as President of the United States," tweeted conservative commentator Ann Coulter. "Nancy Pelosi is alpha," tweeted conservative film maker Mike Cernovich. And right wing commentator Michael Malice opined: "Apparently a wall isn't as good as a cave." Conservative outlets, from the Drudge Report to Breitbart News, also blasted headlines in dramatic font declaring Trump caved with "NO WALL." The response came like clockwork, only minutes after Trump announced the deal to reopen the government for three weeks with no guarantee of wall funds. It was unsurprising considering conservative figures including Coulter were some of the initial instigators who prodded Trump to shut down the government to get his wall. After the White House revealed in December it could back off from Trump's demands for over $5 billion in border wall funding to avoid a shutdown, Coulter mocked the president on Twitter, leading to a feud in which Trump unfollowed one of his biggest campaign supporters. "The chant wasn't 'SIGN A BILL WITH B.S. PROMISES ABOUT "BORDER SECURITY" AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, GUARANTEED TO FAIL!' It was "BUILD A WALL!" Coulter tweeted in December. During a March interview with The New York Times' Frank Bruni, Coulter said Trump should feel the "fear of God" if he doesn't build the wall, arguing his supporters would leave him en masse unless he fulfills his campaign promise. "He could sell Ivanka Trump merchandise from the Oval Office if he would just build the wall," Coulter said. "If he doesn't change course, no, they're never coming back." Trump announced the deal with Democrats during an address in the Rose Garden on Friday afternoon, where he continued to emphasize the need for physical barriers on the border. The deal will reopen the government only until Feb. 15, after which Trump said he would reshutter the government or declare a national emergency if he does not secure funding for the wall by then. But Trump's description of what kind of wall he wants has evolved in a notable concession to his critics. Trump said Friday that natural barriers already provide ample protection in some parts of the border, and that resources for border control should also focus on ports of entry and technology developments beyond a physical barrier. "The walls that we are building are not medieval walls. They are smart walls designed to meet the needs of front-line border agents and are operationally effective," Trump said. "We do not need 2,000 miles of concrete wall from sea to shining sea, we never did, we never proposed that." He did propose that, however. Many times. And it was what many of his most ardent conservative followers called on him to do. But with the government shutdown stretching past a month and vital government services reaching a breaking point, the president apparently calculated that he had little choice but to concede. Trump's approval rating also suffered from the standoff, with The Associated Press showing about 60 percent of Americans blaming Trump for the shutdown. But Malice didn't think conceding to Democrats was likely to help Trump among his most core base. "Jeb Bush is laughing so hard rn that he's about to choke on his own puke," Malice tweeted.
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#1. To: Ada, Surrender Monkey Trump (#0)
Malice, what a great name for a commutator. No, I didn't spell that wrong. Look it up. Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner. Add the Syria Surge and threatening a new war against ZioBolton's Latin Axis of Non-Zionist bootlickers for a trifecta.
Trump got bad advice about shutting the Government down. He has 3 weeks to do a deal and he should have Nancy & Chuckles face a panel of Border Agents , Ice Agents and Angel Moms and Dads. She can Spew her Retarded "We Don't Need a Wall" to the panel and be made to sit there and listen to their responses. Hopefully someone would tell her - No Dumbass We Need a Wall in Key Areas ! Trump needs to Executive Order the wall if no acceptable deal is made , but Do Not Shut The Government down again Dummy! Senator Portman presented a bill today that will end the tactic of holding Government Workers and Agencies Hostage by Shutdown
Yup,and I blame the Never Trumpers for all the support they gave the left as much as I blame Trump. Who knows what he would have done if he had more support and less sniping from people that SHOULD have been backing him? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
I bet this has you having multiple orgasms in your pants,doesn't it,traitor? Congratulations on the success of your efforts to make sure our borders remain open.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
I'm delighted that Trump's prime objective "A Bill of Love" amnesty for illegal alien invaders is losing. It's been postponed, but the POS Trump will keep trying. He's a REAL Republican like dubya, and Reconquista Ronnie Reagan. 2004 GOP Presidential Campaign, Reconquista Republicans. Only degrees better than Gropin' Joe.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
In his defense, Trump is not required to deal with people that are opposed to his agenda. He is required to deal with people that are opposed to him. It's an all-but no-win situation. Doing this does mean the SOTU speech should go on as scheduled.
The SOTU speech is at the very bottom of my priorities' list. He can tweet the talking points while getting the damned wall built! “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Every SOTU my antenae goes up a little higher.
"As expected. We hire some guy to bust heads and toss the scum into the street, and we get this patty-cake, can’t-we-all-just-get-along twit. I knew when I voted that this was what we were most likely getting. But I would not by my lack of action allow the Mao-wannabe into that office, so I said hire the dolt. It bought us more time to acquire knowledge, training and supplies, and bought some time to awake and at least begin to be ready to do something when the time comes. All it got us is a few years, because the next round will most likely cement the civil war into our future. 74% of registered Democrats polled say they would vote AOC for president. Think about that. Think about what that will mean. If we make it that far. I suspect we won’t. Fine with me. Enough with the being at war but not fighting it. Everybody just needs to drop the masks and let’s just slug it out. At least then whoever wins can live in peace. Tired of these cads acting like they matter, and tired of us letting them think it." -Old Gray Wolf “With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group." It could be that socialism might be what every political system eventually degrades to, and that in spite of the destruction it leaves in its wake. England is probably about 50-100 years ahead of the USA in that regard, as that country has been in a developed state longer than the USA has. People who cherish liberty and freedom generally don't want to organize to protect their interests collectively. They instead do what they need to do to protect their freedom individually. So the socialists win.
"Nancy Pelosi is alpha," tweeted conservative film maker Mike Cernovich. As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths. Study Bible Woe to Those Who Rely on Egypt 1 Woe to those who go down to Egypt [ https://www.truthcontrol.com/great-seal-united-states ] for help, who rely on horses, who trust in their abundance of chariots and in their multitude of horsemen. They do not look to the Holy One of Israel; they do not seek the LORD. 2Yet He too is wise and brings disaster; He does not call back His words. He will rise up against the house of the wicked and against the allies of evildoers.… John 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. John 5:40 John 10:11 www.biblehub.com/john/10-10.htm God's immigration plan for America? : Jesus the Good Shepherd (Psalm 23:1-6; Ezekiel 34:11-24) 1Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. 2But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. 3To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out. 4And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice. 5And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers. 6This parable spake Jesus unto them: but they understood not what things they were which he spake unto them. 7Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep. 8All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them. 9I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture. 10The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. 11I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep. 12But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep. 13The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep. 14I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine. 15As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. 16And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. .. www.biblehub.com/kjv/john/10.htm Zechariah 2:5 For I, saith the LORD, will be unto her a wall of fire round about, and will be the glory in the midst of her. biblehub.com/zechariah/2-5.htm 2 Chronicles 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.15Now My eyes will be open and My ears attentive to the prayers offered in this place biblehub.com/2_chronicles/7-14.htm The enduring legacy of the First Landing [cross and gospel at Cape Henry, Virginia April 29, 1607 - see Psalm 2:6, Micah 4:1-2, Ezekiel 34:11-13, biblehub.com/2_samuel/7-10.htm , www.biblehub.com/galatians/3-29.htm ]: www.wnd.com/2007/04/41327/print/ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Bible said we would be afflicted by these yahoos. Genesis 15: …12As the sun was setting, Abram fell into a deep sleep, and suddenly great terror and darkness overwhelmed him. 13Then the LORD said to Abram, “Know for certain that your SEED will be strangers in a land that is not their own; they will be enslaved and mistreated four hundred years. 14But I will judge the nation they serve as slaves, and afterward they will depart ["come out"] with many possessions.… biblehub.com/genesis/15-13.htm [I did the math a long time ago. The Israelites were in Egypt 430 years to the day. They didn't go in as slaves. They went as the honored guests of Pharaoh's right-hand man, Joseph. Joseph started to rule when he was around 39- 40, if I remember correctly. There were 7 years of plenty and 7 years of famine. The Israelites came to Egypt in the second year of famine. Joseph lived to be 110. When Jacob, Joseph's father, died, all Egypt mourned 30 or 40 days. It's doubtful they would mourn a slave that long. It wasn't until "a new king arose who knew not Joseph" (about 200 years after the death of Joseph) that the Israelites began to be oppressed. IOW, they were AFFLICTED for 165 years or less, according to the calculations I made years ago. A year or so ago, I saw a video made by a Jew, who put the time of affliction precisely at 145 or 146 years; I forget which.] The Purpose of the Law Galatians 3:16 The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his SEED. The Scripture does not say, “and to seeds,” meaning many, but “and to your SEED,” meaning One, who is Christ. 17What I mean is this: The Law that came 430 years later does not revoke the covenant previously established by God, so as to cancel the promise. 18For if the inheritance depends on the Law, then it no longer depends on a promise; but God freely granted it to Abraham through a promise.… biblehub.com/galatians/3-17.htm Sons Through Faith in Christ …28There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s SEED and heirs according to the promise. [including Genesis 15:13-14 above] biblehub.com/galatians/3-29.htm moving along... "America, the land of the free and the home of the brave? or. . . the land of the fee and the home of the slave? The "American Revolution" is as well known an apparition as is the "War For Independence". Sadly, once again the spot-light is beamed upon a massive lie; in fact this one is a double-whammy. Not only was that war NOT a spontaneous uprising against tyranny, we Americans were fooled into believing we "won" that war. ..." http://www.sweetliberty.org/perspective/jewishpersecution18.htm A HISTORY LESSON FOR AMERICANS: YOU'RE STILL BRITISH https://patriots4truth.org/2018/04/29/nobody-won-the-american-revolutionary-war/ THE UNITED STATES. IS STILL A BRITISH COLONY . EXTORTING . TAXES FOR THE CROWN! A DOCUMENTARY REVIEW . OF CHARTERS AND TREATIES http://www.apfn.org/apfn/bcolony.htm THE LAND STILL BELONGS TO THE KING. AMERICANS WERE NEVER FREE http://winona1010.blogspot.com/2011/02/land-still-belongs-to-king-americans.html "If my people, who are called by my name..." wake up, Christians. "You have destroyed thyself, but in me is thine help". "They have rejected me, that I should not reign over them." https://enduringword.com/bible-commentary/1-samuel-8/ ================================== Conclusion: "Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD." but Those who will not be ruled by God, will be ruled by tyrants. "...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
I will ask again: why did not Trump ask for the money for HIS wall when the RINO's were in charge of congress?????
It's not really Pelosi's "perogative" to ever stop it from going on as scheduled. The House of Representatives is the People's House, not "Pelosi's House". The State of the Union Address is a national address for We the People of America's Constitutional Republic, not a "Party" power-game. If she wants to lock the doors there to hold it hostage like its a personal poker chip of hers, the Military can remove those doors easily enough and provide proper security for Our Congressional House of government too. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
WOW,DOOD! That's a lot of superstition and brain farts for one post!
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
I suspect he did,and they wouldn't give it to him because they knew it would reduce the amount of bribes they would get from the Dims. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
I'm the first to say that there's not much difference between the R's and D's, but apparently the Senate rules give 40% of Senators the power to filbuster any measure even if 59% of them want it to go through. That is what apparently ruined things when t he R's controlled both houses and wall funding legislation almost made it through then. But yes, Trump & the R's had 2 years to work on this but only really started after the 2018 elections when they learned they'd lose the House. It's the same old crap that's been going on for decades. R's campaign on small gov but spending only goes up once in office. D's campaign on ending wars but keep them running once they get in control. In the end: All wars, All spending, All the time.
:) For those who have eyes to see.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
He should do a broadcast from the Oval Office and everyone who's interested can watch/listen live in their underwear at home. No big deal. Just do it.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
The senator said if government shutdowns are not as dire of an issue, then Congress can focus on improving border security. Sounds reasonable. However: more FYI on R-OH Sen. Portman @ 4um Ref. Posts #1 and #4 (largely responsible for the ongoing Media and Internet Public Commons suppression of Conservatives by Leftist control-freakery ever since then.) Another route to shutdown the Commiecrat obstructionists that claim they're opposed to physical barriers for National Security: Yuge! Congressman Mark Meadows [R-NC Rep.] Wants To Use 10 USC 274/284 For The Border! - redstatewatcher.com | 5 days ago ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
The story of my life... :) “I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs
The story of my life... :) That sounds like a fictional version, imo, but it did remind me of a funny discussion I'd read recently at bigleaguepolitics.com about a different topic that went like this: "But then I am not a truth-seeking journalist, just a person." "'Truth-seeking journalist'! HAHAHAHAH!!!!! GOOD ONE!!!!!" :) ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
DACA Shithole Dreamers - Make America Great Again?
#2. To: Ada (#0)
And right wing commentator Michael Malice opined:
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#3. To: Ada (#0)
"Define yourself as one beloved by God. This is the true self. Every other identity is illusion."—Brennan Manning
#4. To: Ada (#0)
#5. To: Ada (#0)
#6. To: hondo68 (#1)
#7. To: sneakypete, Trump Reconquista Republicans, 2nd GOP amnesty, *The Border* (#6)
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DACA Shithole Dreamers - Make America Great Again?
#8. To: hondo68 (#7)
#9. To: sneakypete (#5)
#10. To: Pinguinite (#9)
#11. To: Pinguinite (#9)
"Define yourself as one beloved by God. This is the true self. Every other identity is illusion."—Brennan Manning
#12. To: Ada (#0)
-Alex Kurtagic 
#13. To: X-15 (#12)
74% of registered Democrats polled say they would vote AOC for president. Think about that. Think about what that will mean. If we make it that far.
#14. To: Ada (#0)
yet you refuse to come to Me to have life.
I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep.
#15. To: Ada (#0)
#16. To: Pinguinite (#9)
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Doing this does mean the SOTU speech should go on as scheduled.
#17. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#14)
#18. To: Darkwing (#15)
I will ask again: why did not Trump ask for the money for HIS wall when the RINO's were in charge of congress?????
#19. To: Darkwing (#15)
#20. To: sneakypete (#17)
#21. To: GreyLmist, 4 (#16)
#22. To: sonny (#4)
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Senator Portman presented a bill today that will end the tactic of holding Government Workers and Agencies Hostage by Shutdown
Rob Portman plans to re- introduce End Government Shutdowns Act - journal-news.com | Updated Jan 06, 2019 | w/2.25 minute video The bill says that if a spending bill is not decided by the end of the fiscal year, the government would be funded at the same rate as the previous year, but it’s reduced by 1 percent every few months.
10 USC 274/284 ... would allow the [Military] construction of fencing without congressional approval. “Democrats have made it extremely clear this shutdown is all about opposing Trump for them. It’s time to pursue other options. 10 USC 274/284 would allow for fence construction without national emergency. Protect our communities, build the wall, and forget unreasonable Democrats.
#23. To: GreyLmist (#22)
Sounds reasonable. However:
#24. To: Dakmar (#23)
Sounds reasonable. However:
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