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Title: The bump stock ban is just days away. What will owners do?
Source: AP/Yahoo
URL Source: https://www.yahoo.com/news/bump-sto ... ays-away-owners-170502765.html
Published: Mar 21, 2019
Author: LISA MARIE PANE,Associated Press
Post Date: 2019-03-21 22:25:27 by Dakmar
Keywords: None
Views: 1705
Comments: 31

BOISE, Idaho (AP) — David Lunsford is an avid gun owner with a firing range on his Texas spread. With bump stocks about to be banned by the U.S. government, he grudgingly decided to sell off his and let someone else figure out what to do with them.

"If I get caught with one, I'm a felon, and it seems like to me that's entrapment in the biggest way. I bought that thing legally with my hard-earned money," said the 60-year-old Lunsford, who has at one time owned six AR-15 rifles that he built from kits, as well as a World War II German submachine gun.

The bump stock — the attachment used by the killer during the 2017 Las Vegas massacre to make his weapons fire rapidly like machine guns — will become illegal on Tuesday in the only major gun restriction imposed by the federal government in the past few years, a period that has seen massacres in places like Las Vegas; Thousand Oaks, California; Sutherland Springs, Texas; and Orlando and Parkland, Florida.

Unlike with the decade-long assault weapons ban, the government isn't allowing existing owners to keep their bump stocks. They must be destroyed or turned over to authorities. And the government isn't offering any compensation for the devices, which can cost hundreds of dollars. Violators can face up to 10 years in prison and thousands of dollars in fines.

Lunsford bought three bump stocks over the years and wanted to recoup at least some of the money he shelled out, but it bothers him that he and others have been put in this position.

"I've never committed a crime with it, and just because of that one killer up in Las Vegas that used one that killed a bunch of people, they're going to make people pay for it," he said.

But Shannon Watts, the founder of Moms Demand Action, said: "It was because of bump stocks that the gunman in Las Vegas was able to kill 58 people from a hotel window. ... It just goes to show the incredible lethality and dangers of these accessories."

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#7. To: Dakmar (#0)

The bump stock — the attachment used by the killer during the 2017 Las Vegas massacre to make his weapons fire rapidly like machine guns — will become illegal on Tuesday in the only major gun restriction imposed by the federal government in the past few years,


Americans have the right to bear arms that are capable of repelling attacks by advancing militarized groups and without having to be a sniper expert to do it. That right does not depend on anyone's opinion of fearmongering "crime show" actions and it is not downgradable by Anti-Constitutionalists in Congress who have no right to impose their foriegn-system(s) form of government here. Repeal this illegal legislation now as the most cost-effective way to correct the matter before taxpayer court costs accrue.

GreyLmist  posted on  2019-03-22   10:41:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: GreyLmist, ban guns, amnesty Don Trump, Bill of Love, *Constitution Party* (#7) (Edited)

Repeal this illegal legislation now as the most cost-effective way to correct the matter before taxpayer court costs accrue.

The Bump Stock Ban is NOT legislation, it's an administrative edict.

Obama said it would be illegal to ban bumpstocks. Trump says it's legal, and he banned them.

Proud to say that I didn't vote for the gun grabbing, amnesty loving NYC libtard, Trump.

hondo68  posted on  2019-03-22   14:02:47 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: hondo68 (#8)

The Bump Stock Ban is NOT legislation, it's an administrative edict.

Obama said it would be illegal to ban bumpstocks. Trump says it's legal, and he banned them.

Proud to say that I didn't vote for the gun grabbing, amnesty loving NYC libtard, Trump.


Administrative edicts by Presidents can't make something illegal. They aren't legislators. Also, Presidents aren't required to have Law degrees, so I'm recommending Ron Paul as a Cabinet-level Constitutional Law consultant and advisor for President Trump. Whoever he spoke with but didn't advise against that bump stock issuance ought to be ousted.

GreyLmist  posted on  2019-03-22   15:04:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: GreyLmist (#11)

Good luck with ousting his daughter and son-in-law.

Lod  posted on  2019-03-22   15:10:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Lod, 4 (#12) (Edited)

Good luck with ousting his daughter and son-in-law.


Web search result: the new ATF ban ... the rule, signed by Acting U.S. Attorney General Matthew Whitaker


This issue has reminded me of a gas pump sticker I read many years ago that said something like: "It is illegal to dispense gasoline into unapproved containers by order of" a Marshall. I thought, "What? They aren't legislators," but this video claims in the first segments to 1:32 that bureaucrats are manufacturing their "rules and regulations" as if laws, or words to that effect:

[Asset Forfeiture "rule"] Bump Stock Ban: Everything You Need to Know - YouTube, 11 minutes

Published on Dec 19, 2018

I discuss everything you need to know to understand the bump stock ban and what you need to do to fight it (hint: don't destroy or give up your guns ...

Notes:

0:47 Bureaucrats/ATF gov-employee manufactured law signed by [Acting] Attorney General - not Congress and President

7:30 - government employees making laws

7:52 - asset forfeiture

9:39 - government employees making laws

From the comments:

[Bump Stocks] do NOT [turn semi-auto into full auto]. Even the ATF says that they do not. They ruled that way...twice. You can shoot almost as quickly with your finger. Watch the Miculek video on it. Should we ban beltloops and rubber bands as well? Completely abolishing the NFA and the ATF for that matter should be the main goal. But giving [an alphabet] agency the power to make law, [is] unconstitutional, ... Not only that but the rule they just released can be more broadly interpreted to ban semi-autos all together. Read through the full rule and it should scare the h*ll out of you."

"Gunowners of America, Firearms Policy Coalition/Foundation, Second Amendment Foundation. Three very active groups that are involved in the fight for the 2nd Amendment"

"The NRA has always been controlled opposition. They'd be happy to leave us with nothing but BB-guns, while foreigners are given machine guns by the CIA and FBI and told that white people deserve to die for all the world's problems."


Edited: Not a law that's been passed by Congress - [a pretense of law/"color of law"] made [wrongfully] by bureaucrats/ATF and signed by the [Acting U.S.] Attorney General [Matthew Whitaker]

GreyLmist  posted on  2019-03-23   21:15:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: GreyLmist (#22)

"Not a law that's been passsed by Congress - made by bureaucrats/ATF and signed by the Attorney General"

signed by the "AG" or one as the "acting AG"? with the drain the swamp trump the only thing one can be sure of is if donnie hires them they are from the swamp

IRTorqued  posted on  2019-03-23   22:37:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#27. To: IRTorqued (#26) (Edited)

"Not a law that's been passsed by Congress - made by bureaucrats/ATF and signed by the Attorney General"

signed by the "AG" or one as the "acting AG"? with the drain the swamp trump the only thing one can be sure of is if donnie hires them they are from the swamp


Edited: Not a law that's been passed by Congress - [a pretense of law/"color of law"] made [wrongfully] by bureaucrats/ATF and signed by the [Acting U.S.] Attorney General [Matthew Whitaker]

Sorry for the confusion about that. I don't know which of his swampy advisors convinced him that he needed an ok by the Speaker of the House to address Congress on the State of the Union but Article II, Sec 3 of the Constitution doesn't say any such thing at all.

GreyLmist  posted on  2019-03-24 00:29:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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