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Title: We Don't Need "Guest Workers"
Source: Washington Post
URL Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy ... 006/03/21/AR2006032101146.html
Published: Mar 22, 2006
Author: Robert J. Samuelson
Post Date: 2006-03-22 21:50:54 by Peetie Wheatstraw
Keywords: Workers", "Guest, Dont
Views: 314
Comments: 26

Economist Philip Martin of the University of California likes to tell a story about the state's tomato industry. In the early 1960s, growers relied on seasonal Mexican laborers, brought in under the government's "bracero" program. The Mexicans picked the tomatoes that were then processed into ketchup and other products. In 1964 Congress killed the program despite growers' warnings that its abolition would doom their industry. What happened? Well, plant scientists developed oblong tomatoes that could be harvested by machine. Since then, California's tomato output has risen fivefold.

It's a story worth remembering, because we're being warned again that we need huge numbers of "guest workers" -- meaning unskilled laborers from Mexico and Central America -- to relieve U.S. "labor shortages." Indeed, the shortages will supposedly worsen as baby boomers retire. President Bush wants an open-ended program. Sens. Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass.) and John McCain (R-Ariz.) advocate initially admitting 400,000 guest workers annually. The Senate is considering these and other plans.

Gosh, they're all bad ideas.

Guest workers would mainly legalize today's vast inflows of illegal immigrants, with the same consequence: We'd be importing poverty. This isn't because these immigrants aren't hardworking; many are. Nor is it because they don't assimilate; many do. But they generally don't go home, assimilation is slow and the ranks of the poor are constantly replenished. Since 1980 the number of Hispanics with incomes below the government's poverty line (about $19,300 in 2004 for a family of four) has risen 162 percent. Over the same period, the number of non-Hispanic whites in poverty rose 3 percent and the number of blacks, 9.5 percent. What we have now -- and would with guest workers -- is a conscious policy of creating poverty in the United States while relieving it in Mexico. By and large, this is a bad bargain for the United States. It stresses local schools, hospitals and housing; it feeds social tensions (witness the Minutemen). To be sure, some Americans get cheap housecleaning or landscaping services. But if more mowed their own lawns or did their own laundry, it wouldn't be a tragedy.

The most lunatic notion is that admitting more poor Latino workers would ease the labor market strains of retiring baby boomers. The two aren't close substitutes for each other. Among immigrant Mexican and Central American workers in 2004, only 7 percent had a college degree and nearly 60 percent lacked a high school diploma, according to the Congressional Budget Office. Among native-born U.S. workers, 32 percent had a college degree and only 6 percent did not have a high school diploma. Far from softening the social problems of an aging society, more poor immigrants might aggravate them by pitting older retirees against younger Hispanics for limited government benefits.

It's a myth that the U.S. economy "needs" more poor immigrants. The illegal immigrants already here represent only about 4.9 percent of the labor force, the Pew Hispanic Center reports. In no major occupation are they a majority. They're 36 percent of insulation workers, 28 percent of drywall installers and 20 percent of cooks. They're drawn here by wage differences, not labor "shortages." In 2004, the median hourly wage in Mexico was $1.86, compared with $9 for Mexicans working in the United States, said Rakesh Kochhar of Pew. With high labor turnover in the jobs they take, most new illegal immigrants can get work by accepting wages slightly below prevailing levels.

Hardly anyone thinks that most illegal immigrants will leave. But what would happen if new illegal immigration stopped and wasn't replaced by guest workers? Well, some employers would raise wages to attract U.S. workers. Facing greater labor costs, some industries would -- like the tomato growers in the 1960s -- find ways to minimize those costs. As to the rest, what's wrong with higher wages for the poorest workers? From 1994 to 2004, the wages of high school dropouts rose only 2.3 percent (after inflation) compared with 11.9 percent for college graduates.

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#5. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#0)

But they generally don't go home

Real guests eventually leave.

This isn't because these immigrants aren't hardworking; many are.

Indeed, despite the attendant pathologies, they are a step up from the previous largest minority.

In the Chicago area we've got all kinds. Probably most prominent are the Polish (one of my wife's acquaintances is an illegal polish gal) and Mexicans. Old polish ladies bereft of English seem to do a lot of the commercial cleaning in suburban office spaces.

Neither of those two groups have any illusions about blacks. My wife is slowly learning too -- experience is trumping her "education". Two things recently very much got under her skin. First, she ordered two pieces of furniture, on two different occasions, from a local furniture retailer. Delivery was probably sub-contracted. The first piece was delivered by a Mexican crew; they were efficient, careful, polite, and removed their shoes without prompting. The second piece was delivered by a black crew; they refused her request to remove their shoes. Two weeks ago we moved into our first house. We used a local mover that came highly recommended. The crew that showed up was black. I should've just turned them away. They were quite loud and quarrelsome among themselves; they didn't know how to pack, and left some items after they inefficiently filled the truck, deciding one trip was enough. They gave most of our furniture some free distressing, and padded the time they spent.

Tauzero  posted on  2006-03-22   23:19:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Tauzero (#5)

Another thing your interesting post made me think of is the Brechtian quip that VDare's Peter Brimelow is fond of quoting about "electing a new people." In the case of mass Hispanic immigration it certainly appears that our plutocratic elites have decided to "elect" a new laboring class by that method. I can remember back 25 years ago seeing a TIME magazine cover that proclaimed Hispanics would "soon be our largest minority"---that didn't happen until some two decades later, so you know that some real advance planning went into that statement. I think that to be candid, blacks simply ceased to be good reliable laborers after the Civil Rights and Welfare Revolutions of the 1960's. There were too many "grievances" they had against the "White Man"; there were too many "rights" they had to assert; there was the ever inviting "safety net" of welfare and ever more feebly combatted crime that provided tempting alternatives to working for a living. Blacks through these factors essentially "priced" themselves out of the labor market, and made the captains of industry turn to a solution they'd used before: mass immigration from impoverished nations, especially Mexico.

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-03-22   23:42:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#9)

What I don't get, Peetie, is how long they think that Hispanics are gonna stay happy with being the n*gg*rs of the New World. They're not stupid by a long shot, and many, if not most of them are good family people and hard workers from what I've seen. The Mexicans anyway. At some point they're gonna rise up and say they don't want to take this shit either, and they're gonna unionize and fight for better wages and working conditions. Look at how the poor workers of Dubai are fighting right now!!!

The elite may always be looking for slaves, but there will always be a Spartacus to free them.

mehitable  posted on  2006-03-22   23:48:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: mehitable (#10)

What I don't get, Peetie, is how long they think that Hispanics are gonna stay happy with being the n*gg*rs of the New World. They're not stupid by a long shot, and many, if not most of them are good family people and hard workers from what I've seen. The Mexicans anyway. At some point they're gonna rise up and say they don't want to take this shit either, and they're gonna unionize and fight for better wages and working conditions. Look at how the poor workers of Dubai are fighting right now!!!

As usually, you're spot on. Second generation Hispanics here in the "Golden State" seem almost as prone as blacks to "gang-banging" (which doesn't refer to rape out here, but to violent gang clashes), drug-dealing, violent crime. Those in the second generation are the kids that are "jacking" black kids at school, and attacking and often killing blacks that get on their "turf."

And they bring their own "grievances" into this country from Mexico, especially the firm belief that the American Southwest has never legitimately been part of the US but is still even after 150 years part of Mexico. Drive around LA and you'll eventually catch sight of a popular bumper sticker that gently assures you: "Fuck you---this is MEXICO!" We're importing a future disaster for our country with all these tens of millions of people---trust me.

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-03-22   23:59:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#11)

Drive around LA and you'll eventually catch sight of a popular bumper sticker that gently assures you: "Fuck you---this is MEXICO!"

I've been telling people for the past few years now that in another generation or two several of our southwestern states and California are going to become part of Mexico as the Mexican populations will be so large we won't be able to prevent it. It will be like having Iraq here on our doorstep. Either that or we will simply annex the entire country of Mexico and become the super United States of North America (along with Canada but they won't much mind as long as they can keep their beer and weed). I don't think that's gonna happen though as I think Mexico will actually want the upper hand and considering how we're degenerating, they might be able to get it.

mehitable  posted on  2006-03-23   0:12:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: mehitable, Peetie Wheatstraw (#14)

The Second Civil War

Hilarious movie. Funny, they don't re-air it at all anymore.

The mayor of Los Angeles speaks only spanish, the governor of Rhode Island speaks only chinese.

robin  posted on  2006-03-23   0:14:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: robin (#15)

The mayor of Los Angeles speaks only spanish

I think this has actually come to pass....lol.

I've never even heard of that movie - sounds MOST unPC. It's probably in the bottom of a tube of plutonium waste buried in the Nevada desert.

mehitable  posted on  2006-03-23   0:21:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: mehitable (#19)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120086/plotsummary

robin  posted on  2006-03-23   0:25:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: robin (#21)

Rob, this is kind of spooky. Sounds like the plot was written by Nostradamus.

Hey did you hear about the 7000 Turkish Muslims (some obscure tribe) that Bush is having moved to Pennsylvania? The Pakistani orphans reminded me of that.

mehitable  posted on  2006-03-23   0:30:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: mehitable (#22)

This one is almost funny - Muchas Gracias, El Presidente Bush

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