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Title: Trump Allegedly Nervous About Pompeo and Bolton Trying to Force Him Into War in Iran
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URL Source: https://dailystormer.name/trump-all ... to-force-him-into-war-in-iran/
Published: May 16, 2019
Author: Andrew Anglin
Post Date: 2019-05-16 10:01:50 by Ada
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Views: 95
Comments: 22
Hey I’m not gonna hold my breath, but good news is good news. I can’t really see why this would be fake news. Washington Post: The Trump administration has been on high alert in response to what military and intelligence officials have deemed specific and credible threats from Iran against U.S. personnel in the Middle East. But President Trump is frustrated with some of his top advisers, who he thinks could rush the United States into a military confrontation with Iran and shatter his long-standing pledge to withdraw from costly foreign wars, according to several U.S. officials. Trump prefers a diplomatic approach to resolving tensions and wants to speak directly with Iran’s leaders. Disagreements over assessing and responding to the recent intelligence — which includes a directive from Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, that some American officials interpret as a threat to U.S. personnel in the Middle East — are also fraying alliances with foreign allies, according to multiple officials in the United States and Europe. Trump grew angry last week and over the weekend about what he sees as warlike planning that is getting ahead of his own thinking, said a senior administration official with knowledge of conversations Trump had regarding national security adviser John Bolton and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. “They are getting way out ahead of themselves, and Trump is annoyed,” the official said. “There was a scramble for Bolton and Pompeo and others to get on the same page.” Bolton, who advocated regime change in Iran before joining the White House last year, is “just in a different place” from Trump, although the president has been a fierce critic of Iran since long before he hired Bolton. Trump “wants to talk to the Iranians; he wants a deal” and is open to negotiation with the Iranian government, the official said. “He is not comfortable with all this ‘regime change’ talk,” which to his ears echoes the discussion of removing Iraqi President Saddam Hussein before the 2003 U.S. invasion, said the official, who like others spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private deliberations. When asked about the accounts of Trump’s frustration with Bolton, National Security Council spokesman Garrett Marquis said, “This reporting doesn’t accurately reflect reality.” Trump is not inclined to respond forcefully unless there is a “big move” from the Iranians, a senior White House official said. Still, the president is willing to respond forcefully if there are American deaths or a dramatic escalation, the official said. Of course, all that means is that Bolton and Pompeo need to create American deaths. Pompeo is the former head of the CIA, so I assume he can get that done pretty quick. Trump need not even know, and I guarantee he won’t call Alex Jones up and ask him for the details. Ivanka probably asked to borrow his phone and deleted AJ’s number. While Trump grumbles about Bolton somewhat regularly, his discontent with his national security adviser is not near the levels it reached with Rex Tillerson when he served as Trump’s secretary of state, the official added. Trump denied any “infighting” related to his Middle East policies in a tweet on Wednesday. “There is no infighting whatsoever,” Trump said. “Different opinions are expressed and I make a decisive and final decision — it is a very simple process. All sides, views, and policies are covered. I’m sure that Iran will want to talk soon.” … Military officials have described themselves as torn between their desire to avoid open confrontation with Iran and their concern about the recent intelligence, which led the commander of the U.S. Central Command, Gen. Kenneth McKenzie Jr., to request a host of additional military assets, including an aircraft carrier and strategic bombers. Multiple officials said uniformed officers from the Joint Chiefs of Staff, led by its chairman, Marine Corps Gen. Joseph F. Dunford Jr., have been among the leading voices articulating the costs of war with Iran. Other officials said the view that deterrence rather than conflict was required was “monolithic” across the Pentagon and was shared by civilian officials led by acting defense secretary Patrick Shanahan, whom Trump nominated last week to remain in the job but who has not yet been confirmed by the Senate. As the tensions have intensified, Shanahan has been in touch multiple times a day with other senior leaders, including Bolton, Pompeo and Dunford, officials said. Some defense officials have described Bolton’s more aggressive approach as troubling. Defense officials said that they are considering whether they will field additional weaponry or personnel to the Persian Gulf region to strengthen their deterrent against possible action by Iran or proxy groups, but that they hope additional deployments will prevent rather than fuel attacks. Trump’s fears of entangling the United States in another war have been a powerful counterweight to the more bellicose positions of some of his advisers. Good to know, good to know… hope it’s true… Trump has called the Iraq War a massive and avoidable blunder, and his political support was built in part on the idea that he would not repeat such a costly expenditure of American blood and treasure. A new deal with Iran, which Trump has said he could one day envision, would be a replacement for the international nuclear compact he left last year that was forged by the Obama administration. Trump’s early policy on Iran, which predated Bolton’s arrival, was aimed at neutralizing the pact and clearing the way for an agreement he thought would more strictly keep Iran in check. … Trump’s anger over what he considered a more warlike footing than he wanted was a main driver in Pompeo’s decision last weekend to suddenly cancel a stop in Moscow and on short notice fly instead to Brussels, where he sought meetings on Monday with the European nations that are parties to the Iran nuclear deal, two officials said. Pompeo was not accorded the symbolic welcome of joining their joint Iran-focused meeting. Instead, he met with foreign ministers one by one. Pompeo’s visit was meant to convey both U.S. alarm over the recent intelligence on Iran and Washington’s desire for diplomacy, not war, two officials said. But European leaders, who have been watching the febrile atmosphere in Washington with alarm, have not been convinced, according to conversations with 10 European diplomats and officials from seven countries, all of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive assessments of Washington and Tehran. Pompeo “didn’t show us any evidence” about his reasons Washington is so concerned about potential Iranian aggression, said one senior European official who took part in one of Pompeo’s meetings. The official’s delegation left the meeting unconvinced of the American case and puzzled about why Pompeo had come at all. There’s no evidence because it’s fake intelligence from the Mossad. Telling the American people about “secret information about a secret Iranian plan” is weird enough, but taking it to European officials is simply bizarre. As far as the reason he went there – it was to feel them out. Honestly, it’s very unlikely Trump has any kind of ideological commitment to not doing a war, it’s simply that he knows how totally unpopular it is – with his base, with the country, with the entire world. So Pompeo and Bolton’s main goal – I am quite certain – is to give Trump the illusion that this war will make people happy. What absolute lunatics these two are. They’re not even Jews. They simply love war. Where do you even find such crazy people? Many officials in European capitals said they fear that conflict with Iran could have a cascading effect on their relations with Washington, ripping open divisions on unrelated issues. They distrust Trump’s Iran policy, fearing that key White House advisers are ginning up rationales for war. And leaders need to win reelection from citizens who hold Trump in low regard and would punish them for fighting alongside Americans on the Iran issue. … Anxieties over the heightened threat environment spilled over into Capitol Hill on Wednesday during a classified briefing. Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) argued that the intelligence warranted an escalation against Iran, said one person with knowledge of the briefing. In response, Democratic Rep. Seth Moulton (Mass.) accused her of exaggerating the threat in what the person described as a “very heated exchange.” HAH! It is apparently hard to find these people – you have to actually go to the daughter of one of the main promoters of the last war! Anyway. I think it’s true Trump doesn’t want to go to war in Iran. But so far, it’s also true that he will do pretty much anything Jared Kushner tells him to do, whether he wants to do it or not. So I don’t think his reluctance to bomb Iran means very much at all.
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#1. To: Ada (#0)
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡ "Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson
Ziondon: "Look, do a deal with me or those lunatic neocons I am saddled with will provoke a nuclear attack and eliminate Iran from the map." Reminder that Sheldon ZioVampire Adelson, the wind beneath The Donald's wings, threw 10s of million$ in the hat for Trump to take out Iran. DJT the next FDR. https://m.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-Politics/Adelson-US-should-drop-atomic-bomb-on-Iran- 329641/amp https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/22/us/politics/adelson-trump-republican-donor.amp.html https://features.propublica.org/trump-inc-podcast/sheldon-adelson-casino-magnate-trump-macau- and-japan/ https://theintercept.com/2019/04/08/netanyahu-thanks-trump-sanctioning-iran-request-eve-israeli- election/ I have much more.... but even a blind man can see where this is going. They're called zio-neo-cons, Andrew. You know that. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Really???? Author resides within Trumps mind? The herd starts a stampede, in fear of WWIII erupting maybe today, or at least this week. Get a grip.
Source is The Washington Post, not the most reliable of papers. Presumably its source is someone in the White House.
Geo/politics does not change with the wind nor when a Bolton passes thru the government. Trump is swimming upstream against the entire government apparatus. Including his own "party".
Some doubt whether he has control of foreign policy.
"Some" are either stupid or just ignorant of the Trump process. Korea for example....Trump knows full well that China would love to have the US off the Asian mainland. Russia however prefers we stay, off the record. Russia has a 2600 mile unprotected border with China and its billions of people. If we leave Asia, Japan goes nuclear in six months. That makes both Russia and China nervous. Boltons come and go but good poker players like Trump will be in at the last hand.
https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5510325,00.html A state-aligned Saudi newspaper is calling for "surgical" U.S. strikes in retaliation against alleged threats from Iran. The Arab News published an editorial in English on Thursday, arguing that after incidents this week against Saudi energy targets, the next logical step "should be surgical strikes." The editorial says U.S. airstrikes in Syria, when the government there was suspected of using chemical weapons against civilians, "set a precedent." It added that it's "clear that (U.S.) sanctions are not sending the right message" and that "they must be hit hard," in reference to Iran, without elaborating on what specific targets should be struck. The newspaper's publisher is the Saudi Research and Marketing Group, a company that had long been chaired by various sons of King Salman until 2014 and is regarded as reflecting official position. So who gets to determine North Korean policy--Pompeo/Bolton or Trump?
That's a great comic, hondo68. LOL
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
Reality sits at the same poker table. Israel has nukes and will use them rather than go down, opening Pandoras box. We can turn out the light, crawl in bed, cover our heads but the bogey man is STILL out there. Example of others testing our will...In 1950 Russia sicced the North Koreans on us ASSUMING WE WOULD CUT AND RUN. Truman did not run but took us to war first time without a declaration. We lost 45,000 men but the Russians and China learned a lesson. We are still in Asia. Middle East. Cut and run? Trump did NOT put us in Asia nor the Middle East.
The coup against both failed. Coup against FDR you might be asking? Yes. The plotters went to Marine Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler to lead the troops and he turned them all in. That coup never got off the ground. The coup against Trump failed also. ;) "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
And even though U.S. troops have been in Afghanistan since October 7, 2001, I hear Trump wants to end that war and bring the troops home. Of course those war mongering neocons like Bolton, who wish to start something with Iran now, will never go along with ending the war in Afghanistan. That war is too much cash in the pockets of the military-industrial complex. The way things stand now with Korea, Trump stands to be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize (nominated by Abe of Japan) for ending that conflict and reuniting north and south. I bet you never expected to see that happen in your lifetime. ;) "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
Take a look at world map. We are in Afghanistan, sitting in Irans back yard. Remember one thing, in WWII, three of the worlds smallest countries took on the world AND NEARLY WON. Japan bombed Pearl Harbor, declared war in 1941, eleven months later we invaded Africa???? Was that logical?
That fat Korean kid is none too happy with Trump stealing his ship. Not looking too good for a NPP. Let "the kingdom" do any surgical striking. We have given them all the needed tools.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
There was a method to the madness. ;) www.quora.com/What-did-Ge...ink-of-Americans-soldiers After the battle of the Kasserine Pass (a clear victory for Rommel over the Americans), many on Rommel’s staff pointed out that the predictions about the Americans, made by Hitler, the German general staff and his own staff, were true. The American’s sloppy ‘cowboy’ tactics, overconfidence and total failure to coordinate their considerable assets, because of their supposed rugged individualism, and unruliness of subordinate units, appeared to be true. The American's had ignored British advice despite the huge amount of experience and arrogantly their leaders had put their soldiers lives in danger in an attempt to show superiority. Rommel’s victory was decisive, but he lacked the resources to follow it up . The Germans were hugely outnumbered in North Africa in men, tanks and planes. Battalion and even brigade sized American units began to toughen up after the battle, after beginning to follow advice they had been offered from the more seasoned British fighters. Rommel personally analyzed the battlefield in the aftermath of the battle, and closely looked at the American equipment and positions. Rommel felt that most U.S. units and commanders showed their inexperience, losing sight of the broader picture. When he heard his staff again speaking of how it will continue to be an easy task to defeat the Americans, he knew his would be difficult without more units. Rommel praised U.S. equipment giving the British the edge in North Africa, "British experience has been put to good use in American equipment". Rommel was then forced to return to Germany shortly thereafter because of illness. He expressed his opinion of the Americans to Hitler and the German High Command, Rommel was unable to exploit Allied failings and found this frustrating. He requested more tanks and supplies to be able to defeat them. His insistence on the need for massive reinforcement of men and material for the Africa Corps (later Panzer Army Africa), was impossible to fulfill. Germans had pressures elsewhere and the Royal Navy dominance in the Mediterranean made any reinforcements problematic. On January 31st, 1943, Gen. Paulus surrendered his army in Stalingrad. After earlier air evacuations, Paulus went into Soviet captivity with about 110,000 Axis soldiers (91,000 Germans). On May 13th, 1943, Panzer Army Africa surrendered in Tunisia. 275,000 Axis soldiers, almost half of which were German, went into Allied Captivity (the others were Italian). Three months later, another 100,000 Germans were lost in Sicily. The Americans now fought alongside the British leaders, Canadians and other commonwealth forces and began to swallow their pride and heed the lessons learned by the British. This finally saw a turn around in their prowess. However they were once again shown to be lacking in the later battle of the Bulge which gave us a glimpse of what might have been. We can be thankful they never faced a full strength Germany as France and the British had earlier, but rather worked alongside the allies to help win world war 2. "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
bullshit, donnie is floating on the swamp current. You are nuts. The swam has no current and is stagnant. ;) "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
that is rich, coming from a trump-chump such as you. your donnie is ankle deep in the swamp, as he went in head first.
#2. To: ghostdogtxn, all (#1)
BS. Good Jew / Bad Jew schtick in progress...
"Define yourself as one beloved by God. This is the true self. Every other identity is illusion."—Brennan Manning
#3. To: Ada (#0)
What absolute lunatics these two are. They’re not even Jews. They simply love war. Where do you even find such crazy people?
#4. To: Ada (#0)
But President Trump is frustrated with some of his top advisers, who he thinks could rush the United States into a military confrontation with Iran
#5. To: Cynicom (#4)
Author resides within Trumps mind?
#6. To: Ada (#5)
#7. To: Cynicom (#6)
Trump is swimming upstream against the entire government apparatus. Including his own "party".
#8. To: Ada (#7)
Some doubt whether he has control of foreign policy.
#9. To: Cynicom, Zio Don (#8)
Ron Paul - Lake Jackson Texas Values
#10. To: hondo68, all (#9)
"Define yourself as one beloved by God. This is the true self. Every other identity is illusion."—Brennan Manning
#11. To: Cynicom (#8)
#12. To: hondo68 (#9)
#13. To: hondo68 (#9)
#14. To: Rotara (#2)
DJT the next FDR.
#15. To: Cynicom (#13)
(Edited)
Trump did NOT put us in Asia nor the Middle East.
#16. To: BTP Holdings (#15)
#17. To: BTP Holdings (#15)
The way things stand now with Korea, Trump stands to be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize (nominated by Abe of Japan) for ending that conflict and reuniting north and south. ;)
Ron Paul - Lake Jackson Texas Values
#18. To: Rotara (#10)
#19. To: Cynicom (#16)
eleven months later we invaded Africa???? Was that logical?
#20. To: Cynicom (#6)
Trump is swimming upstream against the entire government apparatus. Including his own "party".
I used to be in a hurry, then I figured out I was just getting nowhere fast.
#21. To: IRTorqued (#20)
donnie is floating on the swamp current.
#22. To: BTP Holdings (#21)
I used to be in a hurry, then I figured out I was just getting nowhere fast.
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