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Title: NSA Could've Legally Monitored Doctors' and Lawyers' Calls, Justice Department Says
Source: Associated Press
URL Source: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/print?id=1766214
Published: Mar 24, 2006
Author: Associated Press
Post Date: 2006-03-24 22:46:01 by Brian S
Keywords: Department, Monitored, Couldve
Views: 47
Comments: 8

WASHINGTON - The National Security Agency could have legally monitored ordinarily confidential communications between doctors and patients or attorneys and their clients, the Justice Department said Friday of its controversial warrantless surveillance program.

Responding to questions from Congress, the department also said that it sees no prohibition to using information collected under the NSA's program in court.

"Because collecting foreign intelligence information without a warrant does not violate the Fourth Amendment and because the Terrorist Surveillance Program is lawful, there appears to be no legal barrier against introducing this evidence in a criminal prosecution," the department said in responses to questions from lawmakers released Friday evening.

The department said that considerations, including whether classified information could be disclosed, must be weighed.

In classified court filings, the Justice Department has responded to questions about whether information from the government's warrantless surveillance program was used to prosecute terror suspects. Defense attorneys are hoping to use that information to challenge the cases against their clients.

Since the program was disclosed in December, some skeptical lawmakers have investigated the Bush administration's legal footing, raising questions including whether the program could capture doctor-patient and attorney-client communications. Such communications normally receive special legal protections.

"Although the program does not specifically target the communications of attorneys or physicians, calls involving such persons would not be categorically excluded from interception," the department said.

The department said the same general criteria for the surveillance program would also apply to doctors' and lawyers' calls: one party must be outside the United States and there must be reason to believe one party is linked to al-Qaida. The department's written response also said that these communications aren't specifically targeted and safeguards are in place to protect privacy rights.

Michigan Rep. John Conyers, the House Judiciary Committee's top Democrat, complained about the department's evasiveness in answers to questions from the House and Senate Judiciary Committees, submitted to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales. All but two of 45 answers to the House Judiciary Democrats were vague and unresponsive, Conyers said.

He found the response regarding doctor-patient and attorney-client privilege particularly troublesome. More generally, the "need for oversight is especially glaring," he said in a statement.

Justice Department spokesman Brian Roehrkasse said the department "has been extremely forthcoming and clear about the administration's legal analysis through multiple briefings with Congress, three hearings with the Attorney General, multiple letters to Congress, a 42-page white paper and dozens of questions for the record."

Responding in 75 typed pages, the department clarified some points in the three-month-old debate over the program. But it also left many questions unanswered, citing the need for national security.

The House Democrats asked if any other president has authorized wiretaps without court warrants since the passage of the 1978 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, which governs intelligence collection inside the United States.

Choosing its words carefully, the department said, "if the question is limited to 'electronic surveillance' ... we are unaware of such authorizations."

The department also made clear that the program as confirmed by President Bush has never been suspended since it began in October 2001. That would include 2004, when reports indicate serious doubts about the program were raised by Justice Department officials.

But the department refused to discuss, or even confirm, a meeting in 2004 at then-Attorney General John Ashcroft's hospital bed. News reports indicated that White House Chief of Staff Andy Card and Gonzales, then White House counsel, needed his help to quell dissent about the program.

Lawmakers also asked whether federal judges on a secretive intelligence court objected to the program and, if so, how the administration responded.

The department wouldn't answer, citing the need to protect classified information. "We assure you, however, that the department keeps the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court fully informed regarding information that is relevant to the FISA process," the response said.

The department also avoided questions on whether the administration believes it is legal to wiretap purely domestic calls without a warrant, when al-Qaida activity is suspected. The department wouldn't say specifically that it hasn't been done.

"Interception of the content of domestic communications would present a different legal question," the department said.

Associated Press Writer Mark Sherman contributed to this report.

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

WASHINGTON - The National Security Agency could have legally monitored ordinarily confidential communications between doctors and patients or attorneys and their clients, the Justice Department said Friday of its controversial warrantless surveillance program.

NO NO NO NO NO! Do we have to write another Fourth Amendment?

talksalot2  posted on  2006-03-25   6:17:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: talksalot2 (#1)

Do we have to write another Fourth Amendment?

No. We have to create a bloodbath to preserve what has already been established over two hundred years ago. The problem is, everyone is placated by the benevolent government and hence no one cares ... just yet.

Watch the rising tide of public anti-government sentiment in the next few years though. It may tame this beast.

buckeroo  posted on  2006-03-25   6:41:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Brian S (#0)

from RawStory

Why should we hear about body bags, and deaths...I mean, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that? ~Barbara Bush on ABC's "Good Morning America," March 18, 2003.

robin  posted on  2006-03-25   11:42:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Brian S (#0)

The department also avoided questions on whether the administration believes it is legal to wiretap purely domestic calls without a warrant, when al-Qaida activity is suspected. The department wouldn't say specifically that it hasn't been done.

Someone needs to put a stop to this abusive, unchecked president's power.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2006-03-25   12:22:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Brian S (#0)

Let's hope lots of media outlets pick this story up from the AP wire.

aristeides  posted on  2006-03-25   12:24:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Fred Mertz (#4)

Wasn't that lawyer in New York who was charged with abetting terrorism convicted? I'd bet they monitored her phone calls, and I very much doubt now that they would have gotten warrants. She should make this a grounds for appeal.

aristeides  posted on  2006-03-25   12:27:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: aristeides (#6)

http://www.dailyko s.com/storyonly/2006/3/24/131931/878

I don't know about the NY lawyer but the above link might interest you about other lawyers and a 'top secret' document getting out.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2006-03-25   12:36:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Brian S (#0)

http://thewall. civiblog.org/rsf/aba_house302-0206.html

AMERICAN BAR ASSOCIATION ABA TASK FORCE ON DOMESTIC SURVEILLANCE IN THE FIGHT AGAINST TERRORISM

RESOLVED, that the American Bar Association calls upon the President to abide by the

2 limitations which the Constitution imposes on a president under our system of checks and

3 balances and respect the essential roles of the Congress and the judicial branch in ensuring that

4 our national security is protected in a manner consistent with constitutional guarantees; 5

6

FURTHER RESOLVED, that the American Bar Association opposes any future

7 electronic surveillance inside the United States by any U.S. government agency for foreign

8 intelligence purposes that does not comply with the provisions of the Foreign Intelligence

9 Surveillance Act, 50 U.S.C. §§ 1801 et seq. (FISA), and urges the President, if he believes that

10 FISA is inadequate to safeguard national security, to seek appropriate amendments or new

11 legislation rather than acting without explicit statutory authorization;

FURTHER RESOLVED, that the American Bar Association urges the Congress to

20 conduct a thorough, comprehensive investigation to determine: (a) the nature and extent of

21 electronic surveillance of U.S. persons conducted by any U.S. government agency for foreign

22 intelligence purposes that does not comply with FISA; (b) what basis or bases were advanced (at

23 the time it was initiated and subsequently) for the legality of such surveillance; (c) whether the

24 Congress was properly informed of and consulted as to the surveillance; (d) the nature of the

25 information obtained as a result of the surveillance and whether it was retained or shared with

26 other agencies; and (e) whether this information was used in legal proceedings against any U.S.

27 citizen.

ratcat  posted on  2006-03-25   15:28:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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