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Title: Boeing nose dive
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URL Source: https://www.syrianperspective.com/2019/06/15538.html
Published: Jul 11, 2019
Author: varios
Post Date: 2019-07-11 00:42:15 by Tatarewicz
Keywords: None
Views: 768
Comments: 4

Syper Canthama

Back to the Boeing criminal case….Boeing’s new orders in free fall: 37% lower in the 1st half of 2019, 20% in 1st quarter 2019 and 54% in the second quarter 2019. This is only going to grow throughout 2019-2020.

Have mentioned few times that the 737MAX Boeing’s crime (It is a premeditated crime since Boeing always knew the issues and risks for crashes) came at a time that global economy is approaching a long depression, lack of new orders and very large cancelations (737MAX cancelations are starting to happen), it will severely impact impact Boeing’s cash flow and the many small-mid size companies in its supply chain, it will be a domino effect of catastrophic level. I see no possibility for bail out with Boeing.

www.leparisien.fr/economie/aeronautique-les-livraisons-de-boeing-chutent-airbus-decolle-10-07-2019-8113395.php#xtor=AD-1481423553

PacificNorthwest...

Boeing’s implosion will affect the region I live in hard. A lot of people work for Boeing or one of their suppliers up here in the Seattle metro area.

Wall Street greed is killing yetanother great pioneering American company. Until the money people from Wall Street took over in the 1980s Boeing was a well run company with deep engineering talent that built som e legendary airplanes.

Igor Bundy...

Its a strange thing that the US had no rocket industry as such.. Not even the technology or background. Yet after WW2 in 20 years they bypassed the soviets who were working on it with the nazi’s since the 20’s and reached the moon.. Even though the soviets already had a well developed industry in rocket technology and the US still uses the same soviet technology today..

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#1. To: Tatarewicz (#0)

It's rather perplexing that Boeing would scrooge outsource on-board software development to Bangladesh for $8/hour on an aircraft that is enormously more expensive than that.

Having seen a documentary or two on the subject, I guess what amazes and appalls me as a software developer and pilot myself, is that the overall design of the aircraft did not include an emergency button to allow the pilot to completely disconnect the auto aviation software and allow the plane to be flown manually. They should have known, as every software developer does, that software can fail and bugs can get through undetected. It neigh impossible to know for certain that a complex piece of software is completely error free.

But... from a business standpoint, it's likely that if Boeing was playing scrooge with the software development, it's likely they were scrooging on many other parts as well.

Pinguinite  posted on  2019-07-11   5:08:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Pinguinite (#1)

All software generated by circuit boards?

Tatarewicz  posted on  2019-07-11   6:45:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Tatarewicz (#2)

Circuit boards don't "generate" software. Programs can be hardwired into circuitry in which case it's not actually "software" but any hardwired programming is still the product of human programmers. In the earlier days, a few computers were made that rivaled the the Cray supercomputers of the day by hardwiring them to do very specific tasks. Because of that, they could not be reprogrammed to do any other task but they ran about 1/3rd as fast as the fastest Crays and cost enormously less.

But it's quite safe to say that the software onboard airliners is not similarly hardwired. There would be no practical reason for it to be. Any software changes would require rebuilding whatever circuit board would have a bug, and the programming would certainly be sophisticated enough that going that route would mean an enormously complex bit of circuitry.

And even if it were done that way, it would still not mean there could not be an emergency cut off switch accessible by the pilots that severs the circuitry from having control of the aircraft. I would say the lack of any such switch easily and instantly available to pilots would be a high end management decision and an incompetent one. I think some instructions for disabling such controls involve pulling a circuit breaker, but that's obviously not feasible in an aircraft that is out of control pulling high G's, which has happened, or a situation where seconds mean the difference between crashing and living.

Pinguinite  posted on  2019-07-11   17:03:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Pinguinite (#3)

Thanks for the technical insights.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2019-07-11   17:19:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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