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Title: Voters Deciding Whether To Recall Official Over Pledge(refused to say the Pledge of Allegiance before board meetings.)
Source: denver channel 7
URL Source: http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new ... .html?subid=22100484&qs=1;bp=t
Published: Mar 23, 2005
Author: ap/wire
Post Date: 2005-03-23 11:05:29 by hfrancis
Keywords: Pledge(refused, Allegiance, meetings.)
Views: 395
Comments: 26

TheDenverChannel.com Voters Deciding Whether To Recall Official Over Pledge Estes Park Recall Election Generating Lot Of Interest

POSTED: 8:46 am MST March 22, 2005 UPDATED: 9:31 am MST March 22, 2005

A recall election is scheduled in Estes Park Tuesday for a town trustee who has refused to say the Pledge of Allegiance before board meetings.

David Habecker sits while others stand for the Pledge of Allegiance.

David Habecker, 59, refuses to stand and say the pledge because of the phrase "under God." He said the phrase violates his religious convictions and invites religion into a government function, violating the U.S. Constitution.

Those who signed the recall petition said Habecker's position on the pledge should have been disclosed before he ran for public office.

"His action as a personal protest is not what we want as a representative. He's taking a personal stand as an elected official," said Richard Clark, who has pushed for the recall. "We the people believe that his actions and his verbage do not represent us as citizens for a responsible government."

However, Habecker said it wasn't an issue before because the pledge was just added to the trustees' agenda early last year. The board began reciting the pledge before meetings at the suggestion of Trustee Lori Jeffrey-Clark, calling it a way to show respect for the country during wartime.

SURVEY Should a town trustee be recalled because he refuses to stand up and say the Pledge of Allegiance during Town Board meetings? Yes. No.

Results | Disclaimer

Habecker, who's served on the Town Board for 12 years, said he doesn't oppose the meaning of the pledge, and considers himself a patriot. However, he's also agnostic.

"I do not believe that this book, that this God, that this country is under that God. I believe the framers of the Constitution had a separation there," said Habecker. "I'm sad for the community, that there is that much intolerance in our community. But if the people want to have a voice in what's going on, this is their way of doing it."

Four candidates are vying to replace Habecker if he's voted out.

The election is generating huge interest, with 280 absentee ballots already sent out.

Town Clerk Vickie O'Connor said a typical Estes Park election draws about 60 absentee ballots out of 4,000 registered voters.

More Information: Town of Estes Park

Previous Stories: March 3, 2005: Recall Election Over Pledge Of Allegiance Reinstated February 11, 2005: Town Official Who Won't Recite Pledge Won't Face Recall Yet December 15, 2004: Recall Election Set For Trustee Who Won't Stand For Pledge

Copyright 2005 by TheDenverChannel.com. The Associated Press contributed to this report. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

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#4. To: hfrancis (#0)

David Habecker sits while others stand for the Pledge of Allegiance.

I don't say the socialist pledge either, but not for the same reason. (I don't like the "one nation" stuff.)

Adding "Under God" to the pledge was like installing a $1,000 stereo in a rusted out Yugo.

CWRWinger  posted on  2005-03-23   11:36:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: CWRWinger (#4)

"Adding "Under God" to the pledge was like installing a $1,000 stereo in a rusted out Yugo."

And I'm sure the Goddess appreciates your loyalty to her, CWRWinger.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2005-03-23   11:38:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Ferret Mike (#6)

And I'm sure the Goddess appreciates your loyalty to her

You mean the "Statue of Liberty"?

CWRWinger  posted on  2005-03-23   11:47:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: CWRWinger (#7)

No, the creator, the Goddess.

I am of Wicca. Let the blessings be.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2005-03-23   12:21:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Ferret Mike (#8)

I am of Wicca.

Oh, just another yankee forum poster.

CWRWinger  posted on  2005-03-23   12:26:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: CWRWinger (#9)

Oh, just another yankee forum poster.

Fuck you, toothless.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-03-23   12:29:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Jethro Tull (#11)

toothless.

Not nice to insult West Virginians, one of your own. They fought with the yankees, ya know.

BTW, they seceded from Virginia. The yankees supported their secession because W.V.'s were a part of the welfare cult.

CWRWinger  posted on  2005-03-23   12:37:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#16. To: CWRWinger (#13)

Has your house got a flat, or are you just playing dopey? Take your washed up secession act and stick it up your sorry ass.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-03-23 12:40:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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