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Title: Building a North American community - a report b y the CFR
Source: Council on Foreign Relations
URL Source: http://canada.usembassy.gov/content ... americancommunity_TF_final.pdf
Published: Mar 27, 2006
Author: CFR
Post Date: 2006-03-27 08:36:00 by Jethro Tull
Keywords: Illegal, Building a North American comm, CFR
Views: 275
Comments: 17

Building a North American community, the selling of America


Deanna Spingola
Deanna Spingola
July 15, 2005


While our sons, daughters, sisters, brothers, mothers and fathers having been spilling their blood in the sands of Iraq under the guise of restoring the country to the Iraqi citizens, our president is in the process of giving our country to the elite One World Order insiders. While our president is requiring protected borders in Iraq, he is obliterating, not only our southern, but our northern borders.

The leaders of three countries met at Baylor University in Waco, Texas on 23 March 2005. This meeting included George W. Bush, Mexican President Vicente Fox and Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin. There were no security cameras or media coverage on this event, so-called conservative or liberal. These three "wanna be" dictators established the "Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America."

See the announcement of the results of this "three amigos" meeting. So, who notified the Council for their expert socialistic input. Some of our senators have also jumped on the "Give America Away" bandwagon by writing surreptitious supportive bills. It appears that the only people left out of the loop are the American people.

On 17 May 2005 the Council on Foreign Relations created an Independent Task Force to study the three country pact. This 31 member task force was chaired by: John F. Manley, Pedro Aspe, and William F. Weld and vice chaired by: Robert A. Pastor, Thomas P. d'Aquino, Andrés Rozental. These efforts were sponsored by the Council on Foreign Relations in association with the Canadian Council of Chief Executives and the Consejo Mexicano de Asuntos Internacionales.

A CFR press release was issued the same day, 17 May 2005, which indicates they actually started working on this freedom stealing project much earlier. The results of their meeting as follows:

The task force maintains that North America is vulnerable in several areas including "terrorist and criminal security threats, increased economic competition from abroad, and uneven economic development at home." In consideration of these concerns, the task force developed the following "roadmap" to fix the challenges that face the three countries on this continent.

The CFR proposes to implement an even more "ambitious" plan for the "new community" than the covert pact agreed on by the "three amigos." Their target date is 2010. Their recommendations include:

Co-chair Pedro C. Aspe, former Finance Minister of Mexico, said, "We need a vision for North America to address the new challenges." This vision actually refers to the nightmare of the FTAA (Free Trade Area of the Americas). What NAFTA didn't do to destroy the America middle class the FTAA will surely complete. Bush has been avidly promoting CAFTA, the stepping stone to FTAA. It is completely in the worst possible interests of the American people. It will be devastating to the American economy!

CFR: "We are asking the leaders of the United States, Mexico, and Canada to be bold and adopt a vision of the future that is bigger than, and beyond, the immediate problems of the present," said co-chair John P. Manley, Former Canadian Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance. "They could be the architects of a new community of North America, not mere custodians of the status quo."

This basically means that Americans must give up their freedoms and hard won sovereignty along with all resources for the greater good of the "New Community." It is a socialistic equalization designed to make slaves of everyone in all three countries. This will occur as a result of the secret, subversive activities of our ruling elitist who have never sacrificed anything except their integrity. When it comes time to sell this socialistic venture, Bush will adopt his multipurpose "Christian" stance and use every possible guilt maneuver to encourage this good hearted Christian country to open our hearts to the less fortunate. This is a ploy to make all of us less fortunate. There will be many who will fall for this scam under the pretext of Christianity. If we think Christians are media maligned now, just wait! We will be the most hated inmates in the camp!

All of this is done under the facade of protecting us — from terrorists? The worse terrorists we face are those who serve in our government. Another day that shall live in infamy, 9/11, has done much to serve the purposes of those whose main goal is to establish the One World Order. What an opportunistic event! It couldn't have worked any better if they had planned it!

For this coming political transition for America, Canada and Mexico, the CFR Task Force suggests the following specific measures:

Make North America safer: (from their web site)

Create a single economic space:

Spread benefits more evenly:

Institutionalize the partnership:

Co-chair William F. Weld, former Governor of Massachusetts and U.S. Assistant Attorney General, said, "We are three liberal democracies; we are adjacent; we are already intertwined economically; we have a great deal in common historically; culturally, we have a lot to learn from one another."

First of all Comrade Weld, we are not a democracy and we have never been a democracy in spite of all the brainwashing from the media and from the politicians who are elected to represent the people of this REPUBLIC!!!! Perhaps if the Pledge of Allegiance were recited more by the citizens they would remember or recognize that we pledge allegiance to the REPUBLIC!! This brings up another matter — our allegiance. This unelected task force has no business trashing the allegiance of this nation! The president who swore to uphold the constitution of the United States has no business trashing the constitution or sneakily switching our allegiance to a newly created entity for facilitated population control.

Furthermore, if we wish to learn something about our neighbors to the north or south we can read about them in a textbook or history book, providing they have not already been changed to reflect the new borders.

Apparently the big bucks businessmen, prominent former officials and academic experts from the three nations devised this devilish plan for the rest of us and have agreed that their ideas are for our own good.

The task force members came from: See the list here.
Council on Foreign Relations in New York (1921)
Mexican Council on Foreign Relations (COMEXI)
Canadian Council of Chief Executives (1976)

With regard to this nefarious CFR May meeting, member Dr. Robert A Pastor Vice President, International Affairs Professor/Director, Center for North American Studies American University was invited to testify before the Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee on Western Hemisphere, Peace Corps and Narcotics Affairs on 9 June 2005.

Dr. Pastor was asked to speak about the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative as it pertained to America and our border issues. What he gave them was the results of the Independent Task Force meeting of 17 May 2005 which basically addresses the Future of North America.

Dr. Pastor was to address the committee on the required passport for all citizens to travel among the three countries. The purpose of which is to secure the homeland (shades of Nazi Germany). Pastor accused the three country leaders of skepticism and small minded thinking. He stated: We should not be concentrating on U.S. interests. We should not be worrying about the borders of Mexico and Canada but think about the broader context of the continent. The best approach is to integrate economically and socially as quickly as we can especially as we draw near "the fourth anniversary of 9/11"- always that terror reminder to instill fear in the masses.

He declared that the three governments had failed to understand the importance of this giant transformation. Continuing, he said we have limited vision about the threat of terrorists. He believes that we continue to view problems one issue at a time instead of taking giant steps to forge a great "North American Community" based on the premise that each nation can benefit from their neighbor's success but are diminished by their problems.

Pastor, with a decided egotistical mentality, suggests that our security and prosperity depend on our forging a new relationship with our neighbors. As a result of his vast studies he created the Center for North American Studies at American University.

This CFR member applauded the results of NAFTA and cited the benefits in terms of exports and imports. Does this mean the export of our jobs and the importation of items that were once manufactured in our country, the livelihood of our middle class?

Pastor was thrilled with the travel and immigration among the three countries. He was particularly impressed with the fact that our two neighbors export more energy to us than any other country. He used these facts to promote an integrated region. He stated that NAFTA had succeeded in what it was intended to do: "barriers were eliminated and trade and investment soared." Great, we are dependent for energy — who put us there — the environmentalists like Maurice Strong and Mikhail Gorbachev?

But, he said, NAFTA did not go far enough. It failed to address the problem of undocumented workers (they are illegal aliens, Comrade Pastor). Illegals jumped from 3 million (1990's) to 11 million (55 percent or 6 million came from Mexico).

He claimed that NAFTA failed to address security and as a result "the long-term effects of September 11 threaten to cripple North American integration."

Pastor testified that NAFTA has failed to create a partnership because "North

American governments had not changed the way they deal with one another."

The United States apparently continues to govern and "irritate." Apparently, he finds our constitutionally established government with checks and balances (when used) annoying! The Constitution is the one document, if our citizens will study it, which protects our freedoms against the likes of this one world proponent. However, he continued, the addition of a third governing party, a fifteen member North America Advisory Council would settle disputes and increase the chance that the new "North American" regulations would work and resolve any problems. This advisory council would consist of fifteen "distinguished individuals," five from each nation.

According to the CFR the integration of North America is the agenda for the next decade. He said that the meeting on 23 March 2005 was not the first trinational meeting for President George Bush, President Vicente Fox, and Prime Minister Paul Martin but the "others had been little more than photo opportunities."

This March meeting apparently was the most productive and the "three amigos" could then return to their respective countries and start implementation with the anticipation of a 90 day success report.

Pastor stated that our governments are not organized to address particular issues on a trilateral basis. One difficulty is the development gap between Mexico and the United States, especially in terms of education, energy and transportation. No previous policies have been put into play to handle this obvious inequality. So, says the socialist, a plan must be created to equalize the North American economic community and extend benefits to the "most vulnerable social groups in our countries." America! Open your wallets!

Pastor's prescription for the immigration problems of the United States is: the way to reduce illegal immigration is to make Mexico's economy grow faster than that of the U.S. The Council on Foreign Relations Task Force Report spells out such a vision.

This necessitates the redistribution of the taxpayer resources of the United States.

It would be up to the three leaders to evaluate the best way to facilitate the economic integration, introduce continental issues, labor standards and evaluate environmental concerns. The United States Congress and the Canadian and the Mexican counterparts would merge into a single "North American Parliamentary Group." Another group would be a "Permanent Tribunal on Trade and Investment"

Pastor noted that Washington is poorly organized to address North American issues. Again, that disgust for the Constitution! The government would have to be totally reorganized with President Bush appointing a cabinet level White House advisor. The highest priority is to reduce the economic divide between Mexico and the rest of NAFTA. It just isn't fair for one nation to earn one sixth as much as its neighbors to the south. Mexico's "underdevelopment" is "a threat to its stability, to its neighbors and to the future of integration."

Comrade Pastor declared that Europe has shown that the economic gap can be narrowed in a short period of time with appropriate policies and aid.

The Council Task Force made suggested reforms for Mexico combined with a North American Investment Fund. This was also supported by Texas Senator John Cornyn who wrote a bill for it. Folks, do you really know what your senators are doing? Pastor suggested that the Committee on Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee as well as congress should aggressively support this proposal.

While the masses work day to day for diminishing wages in fast disappearing jobs or live on pensions that have not yet been embezzled or social security, the elected elites are yet to make many sacrifices such as accepting a more modest paycheck, rejecting lobbyist perks, converting to the same social security system that the rest use, sending their own family members off to war. It appears that the only sacrifice that many make after their election is their honor.

Pastor made the following educational recommendations based on the EU's experience: Establish Centers for North American Studies in the United States, Canada, and Mexico for people in all three countries. Everyone should think of themselves as North Americans. Forget America, Canada and Mexico! Be a North American!

The Travel Initiative: Ideas should be designed to allow for the legitimate flow of people but stop smugglers and terrorists. The three governments need to establish a North American customs union with a common tariff (CET). This would automatically deny non-NAFTA products. The government would have complete control over every aspect of our lives — how we travel, what we study, what we may purchase and from whom. Supposedly the customs laws (Your papers, please) would address terrorism without having to inspect goods — since only the right goods would be allowed. Tell me Comrade: Would this end the drugs coming in from Mexico?

Another recommendation is the "North American Customs and Immigration Force" which would have better intelligence and have exclusion lists — people who are not allowed to travel. This would no doubt apply to all travel within each country.

The Department of Homeland Security should expand and include Mexico and Canada in its effort to provide security. They would incorporate Canadian and Mexican personnel. The astute among us recognized there was another reason for the Department of Homeland Security and it has nothing whatsoever to do with our security.

He continued: The North American Council should integrate transportation regulations and design new North American highways and high speed rail corridors. National standards for weight, safety and other issues will have to be negotiated for one set of standards.

The three governments should work to develop a North American Border Pass with biometric identifiers for expedited passes. This would also apply to airport security.

Passage of the Real ID Act indicates that people realize that some form of national identification is necessary. These would be an alternative to the Western Hemisphere Initiative. Pastor insisted that we need to ease travel among the three nations while we work on a continental security perimeter. He suggested a biometric Border Pass to improve border transit — or possibly any other transit?

A Canadian company, Ekos, took a poll in October 2003 to determine the acceptability of a North American economic union. This company determined, according to Comrade Pastor, that a majority of the people polled believe that an economic union should be established in the next ten years. Allegedly, the people polled were in favor of integrated polices on environment, transportation, energy, defense and banking. All poll results are based on the way questions are asked focused on the predetermined desired results. Polls influence and shape public perceptions.

It is Pastor's hope that the North American leaders would pursue the North American agenda beyond just the travel initiative. He stated that all three leaders promised to publish a report indicating what steps they had taken since their 23 March 2005 meeting. These are to be reviewed with Indiana Senator Richard Lugar's bill for a "North American Cooperative Security Act" which sounds benign but obviously has far reaching reprehensible goals. Pastor's last words to the committee were: "Our security and prosperity depend on it." — meaning the implementation of this integration of the three nations into a European Union type region meant to facilitate absolute control over each of our lives. Well, thank you, Comrade Pastor! Without your astute observations and the advice of the contemptible Council on Foreign Relations we might just be able to mobilize our efforts and actually rescue our country from all of its resident traitors.

On 26 June 2005 the president received the 90 day report from Secretaries Rice, Gutierrez and Chertoff concerning the implementation of the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America. Apparently after the March meeting the "three amigos" could collaborate with their comrades back home to determine the best way in which to foist this decadent plan on the citizens of their respective countries. [2]

Secretaries Rice, Gutierrez and Chertoff along with their counterparts in the other two countries were to identify goals, priorities and concerns then create a trilateral/trinational report of their findings. Probably, the most important aspect of their report was the implementation part. [3]

So, there you have it. While the media concentrates on other diversions: terrorist explosions in London (who knows who really planted them?), the war in Iraq, partisan prattling and a myriad of other more trivial things like Tom Cruise and his latest romance, our treasonous leaders are giving our country away.


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#1. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. IT'S A WELL DESIGNED SCHEME BY THE CFR.

Exactly JT.. this is why there isnt a thing that can be done to stop this.. I read Vicente Fox's speech in Madrid regarding this some time ago.. it was all said.. that the Americas would become a ditto mark of the EU.

Zipporah  posted on  2006-03-27   8:54:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Zipporah (#1)

What's frustrating is that decent people still cling to hope. Nothing short of a "V" scenario will return this country to it's constitutional footing. Nudge me when that time comes :)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-03-27   8:57:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Jethro Tull (#2)

Here's a link from Vdare that discusses the speech:

http://www.vdare.com/awall/fox_madrid.htm

By Allan Wall

Does Dubya Know About Fox’s Madrid Speech?

As nearly as I can tell, Mexican President Vicente Fox’s speech on “Mexican Foreign Policy in the 21st Century,” delivered in Madrid, Spain, on May 16, was completely ignored by the American media.

The foreign policy discourse was delivered to the “Club XXI” in the “Hotel Eurobuilding” (yes, the Eurobuilding!). You can read it here if you know Spanish.

(Fox went to Europe, by the way, after visiting New York City, where he

demanded the U.S. capitulate to his immigration demands or lose the chance for a “privileged relationship” with Mexico.)

There’s something about being in Spain that encourages Fox to speak very bluntly about relations with the United States. Perhaps it’s because he doesn’t expect what he says to be publicized in the U.S. See, for example, his comments last October about Mexican immigrants “exporting” Spanish to the U.S.

But thanks to VDARE.COM, Mr. Fox’s blunt speaking is being brought to your very own computer screen for your own consideration!

The U.S. media continue to call Vicente Fox “pro-American.” I find this rather curious, since I read a lot of Fox statements and the guy almost never says anything positive about the U.S. The contrast with George W. is particularly telling. Dubya gushes on and on, like a lovesick schoolboy, about Fox and all things Mexican. He has even

said, “I want to accommodate my friend.” It looks suspiciously like a case of unrequited love on Bush’s part. (I refer the reader as well to my article on the Fox administration’s contradictory and underwhelming response to the 9/11

aftermath.)

Well, anybody who thinks Fox is “pro-American,” or that he is some kind of conservative Republican soulmate, had better heed his words in Madrid.

And for those of us concerned about the loss of American sovereignty and civil liberties in the face of an

emerging One-World government - the Mexican president is not on our side.

Fox spoke approvingly in Madrid of the developing “New World Order,” or as he terms it, the “Nueva Agenda”–New Agenda.

Fox said in Madrid that

“In recent years a new International System has been developing, oriented toward the establishment of norms and principles of universal jurisdiction, above national sovereignty, in the areas of what is called the New Agenda, such as human rights and democracy, questions of gender and discrimination, the protection of the environment or the war on organized crime and corruption.”

“.... The construction of new rules of international co-existence must continue.... we are actively participating in various forums in the construction of this international architecture.”

Pretty much the same globalist rhetoric that politicians from most nations, including our own, utter at international forums. But don’t worry, Fox gets more specific as he goes on.

Fox boasted about Mexico’s participation in that notorious UN “anti-racism” conference held in Durban. You know, the one where bashing Israel and demanding

slavery reparations seem to have been the principal activities. Mexico’s representative at Durban, Gilberto Rincon Gallardo, supported slavery reparations . But he took it one step further–reparations must be paid to the world’s ex-colonies as well. (Presumably not including the U.S.)

In the Madrid speech, Fox spoke of Mexican-European relations, affirming that

“Mexico is closely linked with the European nations for historical reasons and because of cultural affinity.

That sounds quite reasonable. After all, Mexico is part of the Western World. But when Fox speaks of “Europe” is he speaking of “Western Civilization” or the “European Union?”

Fox continued

“.....it is logical that Mexico approach Europe. We have an identity of values which unites us with the European nations, even more than with our neighbors of North America.”

Hold it right there! Didn’t George W. Bush, in his annual Cinco de Mayo speech, when he said that Fox was “my good friend,” declare that “The United States has no more important relationship than the one we have with Mexico” and that the U.S. and Mexico have “common values and a shared culture”?

But whaddya know? “Good friend” Vicente feels he has more in common with the Eurocrats than with George W. Bush.

Fox went on to recount international issues in which the Fox administration has co-operated with the European Union to advance their shared “identity of values” and "convergence":

Fox mentioned their co-operation in the UN “Human Rights Commission” and the Kyoto Protocol.

Fox and the EU are also strong supporters of the International Criminal Court, in which American citizens

could be tried before kangaroo courts (with no jury) on vague, politically-based charges.

The Fox administration also worked closely with the EU at the UN’s recent conference on childhood. (Ironic that the UN, some of whose own aid workers and peacekeepers have sexually abused West African refugee children, still lectures the world on how to treat children.)

The first axis of Mexican foreign policy, said Fox, is a “more intense activity in multilateral forums.” Hmmm. The second axis?

Let Fox explain:

“The second axis of Mexico’s foreign policy has been the construction of a strategic association for prosperity with the United States and Canada....

“The density and complexity of the themes of our bilateral agenda with the United States.... has a particular dimension for the presence of large Mexican communities settled in that country, more than 20 million Mexicans.”

Over 20 million Mexicans in the U.S.? Fox is including American citizens of Mexican ancestry in this figure.

Fox goes on:

“In the last few months we have managed to achieve an improvement in the situation of many Mexicans in that country, regardless of their migratory status, through schemes that have permitted them access to health and education systems, identity documents, as well as the full respect for their labor and human rights.”

What is Fox talking about here?

  1. “regardless of their migratory status” = illegal aliens

  1. “Access health and education systems” = the granting of medical and educational benefits to illegal aliens, courtesy of the American taxpayer

  1. “identity documents” = consular cards to avoid deportations and driver’s licenses for illegal aliens

  1. “full respect for their labor and human rights” = the right of illegal aliens not to be deported.

Fox has more:

“All this has meant, in the past year, an extraordinary conceptual advance on the subject of immigration and in the importance of moving gradually toward the regularization of the migratory situation of our fellow Mexicans in the United States, a number that is estimated at between 3 and 4 million Mexicans."

(This time, Fox is referring to illegal alien Mexicans. Phew!)

“Eventually, our long-range objective is to establish with the United States, but also with Canada, our other regional partner, an ensemble of connections and institutions similar to those created by the European Union, with the goal of attending to future themes as important as the future prosperity of North America, and the freedom of movement of capital, goods, services and persons."

(I saw this part on Mexican TV- Fox paused momentarily and then put an emphasis on “persons.”)

“The new framework we wish to construct is inspired in the example of the European Union...”

Fox, however, sees one small obstacle to his EU-style vision for NAFTA:

“....we have to confront ..... what I dare to call the

Anglo-Saxon prejudice against the establishment of supra-national organizations.”

(Gringos dragging their feet on amnesty, Brits dragging their feet on the euro?)

Fox’s conclusion:

“Nevertheless, I believe that with realism we can overcome the obstacles and construct a more prosperous and secure community for our peoples.”

In other words, Fox believes he can overcome American resistance to his globalist New Agenda for their country.

Is that what Americans want?

If not, they’d better speak up soon.

Zipporah  posted on  2006-03-27   9:03:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Jethro Tull, zipporah (#0)

our president is in the process of giving our country to the elite One World Order insiders

Diebold ensures their victory.

angle  posted on  2006-03-27   9:26:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: angle (#4)

Diebold ensures their victory.

Amen to that.. everything is put in place to enable them to do as they please.. I dont think it's any accident either that the national guard are in Iraq.. we're left at their mercy...

Zipporah  posted on  2006-03-27   9:27:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Zipporah (#5)

My advice to myself today...

What's going to change if you do nothing?

Visualize the way you want it to be. See it. Say it. Visualize, see and chant it. If you feel moved to act, act.

Those actions alone are more powerful to change our reality than anything the globalists can throw at you. Dissolve their vision, replace it with your own and concentrate your energies on seeing it and allowing it to become a reality.

angle  posted on  2006-03-27   9:36:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Zipporah, Jethro Tull (#1)

I've been telling friends and relatives for years that we are being invaded - deliberately by millions of people who have been manipulated into coming here and who have NO intention of leaving. Everyone thought I was crazy or extreme. Hopefully the massive demonstrations this past weekend will wake up some comatose Americans into the kind of disaster we're facing. Personally I will be boycotting Mexican food (something we love and have been eating fairly regularly) and all Mexican/Hispanic businesses I possibly can, and I'm urging others to do the same. It's a small thing, but it's something.

On a larger scale, I think the CFR plans will ultimately fail because it's almost impossible to have the kind of seamless integration these yahoos are envisioning. Someone ALWAYS wants to be top dog - it's human nature. My guess is that Mexico will want to become top dog eventually and it's hard to fight their massive demographics. It's also foolish of the CFR and related bodies to think that the Mexican people are docile and will be content with slave labor jobs in perpetuity. That's just not true. They nightmare scenario they've created in Iraq will be repeated over here.

These One WOrlders can plan and plan and achieve some successed but ultimately they can never achieve the kind of control they want. Not unless they reduce certain populations drastically. So we shall see if they're up to that....It's not their intentions I question, but their competence.

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-03-27   9:37:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Zipporah (#3)

I wrote my comments below before I read all of this - from the sound of Fox's remarks, I think I was correct. Fox envisions a Mexico that's actually top dog in this trilateral group by dint of sheer numbers, aggessiveness and American passivity and greed. I wonder if Tancredo has seen these remarks (I mention him as one of the very few strong political voices out there against this invasion.)

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-03-27   9:43:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: mehitable (#8)

I wrote my comments below before I read all of this - from the sound of Fox's remarks, I think I was correct. Fox envisions a Mexico that's actually top dog in this trilateral group by dint of sheer numbers, aggessiveness and American passivity and greed. I wonder if Tancredo has seen these remarks (I mention him as one of the very few strong political voices out there against this invasion.)

Im quite sure he has..

I read a blurb that mentioned his speech and wanted to read it.. I finally found it in Spanish.. it was all explained what their plans are.. we are so f'd.

Zipporah  posted on  2006-03-27   9:49:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Zipporah (#9)

Hi Zip - what was your reaction to these massive illegal alien marches this past weekend? ALthough I've been saying for years now that this is an invading army, I was blown away both by the size of the marches and by the aggressiveness and brazeness of the language. 500,000 in LA alone. When were AMERICANS able to put together such numbers? How are we gonna fight this?

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-03-27   9:56:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: mehitable (#10)

Hi Zip - what was your reaction to these massive illegal alien marches this past weekend? ALthough I've been saying for years now that this is an invading army, I was blown away both by the size of the marches and by the aggressiveness and brazeness of the language. 500,000 in LA alone. When were AMERICANS able to put together such numbers? How are we gonna fight this?

I thought this may just wake up the people .. but the problem is everything is in place to stop organizing by 'whites'.. thats how they spin it.. the SPLC etc.. anyone will be labelled as a 'hate group'.. it's so over.. A group like LePen's will be hard pressed to be successful here.. UNLESS the people get over the worry of being labelled.. and they organize in huge numbers.

Zipporah  posted on  2006-03-27   10:06:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Zipporah (#11)

People have to stop being afraid of being called "racists" or "xenophobes". It's not racist to protect your own country. I'd feel the same way if it were Swedes on the border coming in here illegally en masse. I actually have nothing against Mexicans as people - they seem nice and hard working, etc. But I have a problem with the sheer numbers, the unregulated and lawless nature of their coming here, the brazen and aggressive and ENTITLED attitude I see at these marches, and the rhetoric of pols like Fox.

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-03-27   10:24:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: mehitable (#12)

People have to stop being afraid of being called "racists" or "xenophobes". It's not racist to protect your own country. I'd feel the same way if it were Swedes on the border coming in here illegally en masse. I actually have nothing against Mexicans as people - they seem nice and hard working, etc. But I have a problem with the sheer numbers, the unregulated and lawless nature of their coming here, the brazen and aggressive and ENTITLED attitude I see at these marches, and the rhetoric of pols like Fox.

I absolutely agree.. it's amazing how well that tactic works.. if you've ever read anything from the SPLC on hate groups.. It boggles the mind.. and another real problem is they work in tandum with the FBI.. If you search you'll find where the SPLC had people at Elohem City re OKC ..

Just because someone wants to organize doesnt mean they advocate violence but thats how they see it!.. But notice they sure dont do ONE thing about the illegals organizing..they have full run ..they're funded by tax exempt foundations and federal grants..they have A LOT of money to work against us with.. much of it our own money..

Zipporah  posted on  2006-03-27   10:32:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: mehitable, mehitable (#12)

but the problem is everything is in place to stop organizing by 'whites'.. - Zip

This is the real problem. There wasn't one arrest over the weekend at these demonstrations. If there had been, they would have rioted. So, the white power structure is afraid of these invaders. Now we, as whites, simply aren't allowed to gather in these numbers. The ADL/SPLC/ACLU, etc would all come down on us if we dared to. Fear has made us sheep. As I said nothing short of a "V" - and our support of Him/Her - will save us at this point in history.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-03-27   10:33:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: All (#14)

Subtrace one mehitable and add a Ziporrah (g)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-03-27   10:33:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Jethro Tull (#14)

I dont understand why people can't see the blatant hypocriscy?? There is black pride, brown pride, gay pride, lesbo pride.. all encouraged and again I might add with OUR money and monies from tax exempt foundations.. BUT is a word is uttered about WHITE anything.. OMG they'll be on some list as a terrorist or some other such bullshit.. frankly Im sick of the hypocrisy.

Zipporah  posted on  2006-03-27   10:37:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

I just received an email from Joseph Ehrlich. He said he just realized that the prison camps KBR is building in the U.S. are for the whites and not for the Mexicans.

Horse  posted on  2006-03-27   15:02:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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