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Title: Five Questions that Blow Apart the El Paso Shooting Narrative
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URL Source: https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-08 ... -el-paso-walmart-shooting.html
Published: Aug 4, 2019
Author: Mike Adams
Post Date: 2019-08-04 20:07:46 by Lod
Keywords: We, Been, Played, Again
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#1. To: Lod (#0)
From: www.naturalnews.com/2019- 08 ... -el-paso-walmart-shooting.html And this link tells us about the Dayton shooter: www.citizenfreepress.com/...-killer-connor-betts-was- socialist-supporter-of-elizabeth-warren/ “I want socialism, and i’ll not wait for the idiots to finally come round to understanding.” On Nov. 2, 2018, he wrote: “Vote blue for gods sake.”
Way a way to get everybody's buddy Epstein outta the headlines.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Why is it that no one in that area was carrying a firearm? Were there no permit holders on the scene? Offs it is Texas.
"Call Me Ishmael" -Ishmael, A character from the book "Moby Dick" 1851. "Call Me Fishmeal" -Osama Bin Laden, A character created by the CIA, and the world's Hide And Seek Champion 2001-2011. -Tommythemadartist
Too many questions on this event, way too many. No security guard, no metal detector, no one noticed a guy carrying an AK in to do his morning shopping, no one carrying? With cameras literally blanketing Walmarts wall to wall, why is there only on grainy film that looks like a bad VHS tape? With all the fatalities and casualties, dude is able to just drop his weapon and say, "I give?" Why wasn't he ventilated like Dayton-shooter, et al? “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Weekend shopping at the Wallmart. I'd expect to see a bunch of back-to-school shoppers. My instincts would lead me to expect about zero carriers. In addition to that, even if armed with a concealable firearm, what the hell are most folks able to do when under surprize assault with military caliber rifle fire? It is very difficult to take a stand against superior firepower - especially, as I suspect, there are multiple shooters at work.
The article tries to draw a false equivalency between Trump and the Democratic politicians. No Democratic candidate is engaging in the type of denigration of entire ethnic groups and incitement to violence that Trump engages in. No normal Republican does that either. Trump is in a class by himself and it is legitimate to call him out. A shooter expressing agreement with Democratic candidates on some political issues is not the same thing.
I am curious about that too. In his manifesto he said he didn’t want to be taken alive.
Superior Firepower. Let me first say that I am a permit to carry instructor. In almost 95 percent of these events, when a shooter runs into an armed resistance, they immediately bail and then either surrender or kill themselves. Actually, they kill themselves better than 80 percent of the time. ONE person with a handgun could have ended this tragedy. You may think superior firepower when someone has a rifle but that flat out is not true at all. The superior gunman, is the one who trains. This was a 21 year old kid, who probably never trained a day in his life. If you watch kids who shoot at each other who have never been in combat or ever trained, they shoot everything around them. No, the problem is and was not superior firepower. My thoughts, are that there was more than one shooter. That would be the one factor that would cause me to hesitate, and even then unless they were military guys, I’d probably have capped them to save lives. You do not shoot to kill, you shoot to live and that is the problem that I see with this little political fiasco playing out. This guy was a leftist stooge. I don’t care what the media says, I am betting hard money he was an Antifa goon, and had help. Why??? Because ANTIFA was doing a big push in El Paso against border walls, and of course immigration enforcement. To me that is the only explanation. I train people every day for these situations. I train for active shooters, and I train specifically for this kind of threat. You would not believe how many people want to know how to survive a shooting incident that are utterly shocked when they find out that when people shoot back, the shooters usually flee. AND... In the vein of this being an op. I guarantee they would have gone screeching out of there because what kind of Operator wants to be shot by some fat rookie or some cop? I guarantee it, one handgun could have stopped this whole thing. Because the little prick surrendered the second he saw law enforcement roll up. Which is also quite odd, seeing as how in almost every walmart there is a loss prevention guy who is either a cop, or works with law enforcement. Where was he at I wonder??? "Call Me Ishmael" -Ishmael, A character from the book "Moby Dick" 1851. "Call Me Fishmeal" -Osama Bin Laden, A character created by the CIA, and the world's Hide And Seek Champion 2001-2011. -Tommythemadartist
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
He should be measuring it in disability adjusted life years. Suicide, homicide, and car accidents usually take more years off a persons life than old age illnesses.
"Mass-shootings" don't even move the statistical needle on America's Death-meter.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Thank you for the perspective. It's very useful. Cain't run worth a damn. (Won't really know until the adrenaline kicks in.) Should the SHTF in my vicinity, I will be looking for the nearest cover and then I will be next greasing the target that needs it!
Those planes hit the Twin Towers by the use of QRS-11 Flight Termination System, which allowed the plane's controls to be taken over by remote control. There were no hijackers on those planes. There are even some who say those planes were not the planes that were originally hijacked. They were substituted in flight. And some of the passengers were using their cell phones. This is not possible at 5,000 feet of altitude. ;) "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
Agree.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Answer: They were not the scenes of Saturday’s deadly attacks (in El Paso and Dayton). First it was Joe Biden expressing his condolences on Sunday to the people of Houston and Michigan for the attacks “today” and “the day before”. Then it was President Trump referring to the attacks in El Paso and Toledo [aka Holy Toledo]. Then [Brian Williams] of MSNBC, trying to point out Trump’s error, referred to the attacks in El Paso and Denver. ... make of it what you will. Biden apparently confused Houston for El Paso and Michigan for Ohio. And then Trump did something similar today when he accidentally referred to Dayton as “Toledo.” Oops. Well, we all make mistakes. Except the latest news out from the Biden team today doesn’t sound like another mistake. It sounds like a threat. And America is the target. From The Hill: Former Vice President Joe Biden said on Monday that the U.S. will not be able to unite against hatred until President Trump leaves office. "The deep state of government is behind all these mass murders." ... "The motive is that at some point we the people will give in and beg the government to take our weapons." "one of Marx's primary goals. 'Disarm the people'. An absolute must if you want to control them." "Near everyone of these events take place just before some new unconstitutional gun control bill is about to be brought up, or an election is pending. Fear is a great motivator to get citizens willing to give up their rights and freedoms for a FALSE sense of security. This is what a communist takeover of America looks like." "Maybe Congress ought to put restrictions on the Liberal's who have constantly weakened our legal system and law enforcement." ... "The media is constantly bashing American pride. It all boils down to "dumbing down" of our culture." [annotated] "the Dems idea of effective gun control is to totally banish guns from the common people of this country. I am sure their 'Bipartisan' bill is loaded with all manner of landmines meant to destroy rights." ... "the Dems pointing fingers on one hand while basically [using] horrors like this as a way to advance their political agendas. And not a one of them [admit] how they are [manufacturing] the division in our country and ramping up the hate." "Everything they disagree with, they don't establish discussion, they immediately call it racism, end of discussion." "Demonizing white males alone, while giving a constant pass to the daily mass murder that takes place in liberal cities, is just not going to work." Hysteria over Jade Helm exercise in Texas was fueled by Russians, former CIA [and NSA] director [Michael Hayden] says | MAY 3, 2018 | The Texas Tribune [A former director of the CIA and NSA,] Michael Hayden, speaking on MSNBC’s Morning Joe podcast, chalked up peoples’ fear over Jade Helm 15 to “Russian bots and the American alt-right media ... [Texas Gov. Greg] Abbott ordered the State Guard to monitor the federal exercise soon after news broke of the operation. Hayden said that move gave Russians the go-ahead to continue — and possibly expand — their efforts to spread fear. “At that point, I’m figuring the Russians are saying, ‘We can go big time,’” Hayden said of Abbott's response. “At that point, I think they made the decision, ‘We’re going to play in the electoral process.’” The [Jade Helm 15] exercise, which spanned several states [Mississippi included], began in Texas in Bastrop County in 2015 and was described by federal officials as routine. ... Hayden was not CIA director at this time. Weeks before the exercise began, Abbott wrote a letter to the State Guard asking them to keep an eye on the operation so “Texans know their safety, constitutional rights, private property rights and civil liberties will not be infringed.” In the letter, Abbott added that he had "the utmost respect for the deep patriotism of the brave men and women who put their lives on the line to fight for and defend our freedom." Yet the move prompted significant criticism. Democrats questioned whether Abbott really trusted the military. ... Democrats are already seizing on Hayden's remarks to further criticize the governor ... Hayden was CIA director from 2006 to 2009. theories also included concern about the name of the exercise, with the "jade" possibly referring to China ... There was also speculation that shuttered Walmart stores would be used for "guerrilla-warfare staging areas and FEMA processing camps" U.S. Representative Louie Gohmert said in a statement on May 5, 2015 ... "I was rather appalled that the [map designated] hostile areas amazingly have a Republican majority, 'cling to their guns and religion,' [Ref. Obama statement] and believe in the sanctity of the United States Constitution". the 2015 version of Jade Helm involved separate events in multiple states designed to simulate various so-called irregular and unconventional warfare scenarios throughout a fictional region containing friendly, enemy, and neutral “countries.” In February 2017, American special operators joined their colleagues from the Baltic States of Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania to stage a mock guerrilla war in West Virginia called Ridge Runner 2017. But then things get a little odd. There only appears to be one official news story on this exercise at all Jade Helm 2017 reportedly occurred, at least in part, between May 2 and 5, 2017, according to one official U.S. Air Force news item. ... the event has come and gone with little acknowledgement of any kind from the U.S. government or the public. And yet, the U.S. military has still found a way to make it weird, including the suggestion that Jade Helm is actually a very long acronym. ... In particular, the phrase “Homeland Eradication of Local Militants,” the official meaning of which no one ever explains in the Air Force story, sounds almost engineered to provoke the same concerns from [the] same communities that came up surrounding the 2015 exercise. [Joint Attack Defense Evasion and Hostile Environment Land Maneuvers - Ref. article Comment Section] These types of training exercises are common and routine. However, as in this case, the haphazard way in which information about them is released or otherwise communicated to the public, also seems to be an unfortunate, but regular occurrence. The biggest part of the problem seems to be the delegation of authority for informing the public at large. ... The information is usually released by the local law enforcement organization that is working with the USSOCOM unit. The information is generally released for general public awareness or public safety reasons. USSOCOM units generally comply with the advice of local officials or law enforcement when to release information and what information to release.” sometimes things require military spokespersons to go out and clarify things. Unfortunately, this seems to occur mainly when relations with the public have already been strained by poor communication on the part of state or local officials, many of whom have likely been in the know the whole time. They have to be for safety reasons. It otherwise seems that when these exercises go off without a hitch, you don’t even hear about them until months after the fact. All in all, it seems like a system that could do with some improvement, whether it be a standardized mechanism for alerting the public or a more clearly defined chain of responsibility for doing so. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
You're joking right? The Democrats are mostly anti-white male, and their politicians are constantly calling for "action" against Trump supporters. The Ohio shooter was a member of Antifa, which we know is a leftist anti-American hate group that regularly uses violence with the encouragement of Democrat politicians and the main stream media. So I think you have a few wires crossed somewhere strep.. I've not seen one comment out of Trump that could be construed as "incitement to violence", nor anything resembling "denigration of entire ethnic groups". Illegal immigrants are not an "ethnic" group. ONE MORE QUESTION: Why was the shooter’s online profile changed from “Democrat” to Republican / Trump supporter / QAnon follower? Clearly the deep state is modifying his online profile to match their own conspiracy theories and official narratives about QAnon followers being “domestic terrorists.” This is Orwellian-level psyop stuff being run on the entire nation…
Connor Betts, the Dayton, Ohio mass shooter, was a self-described “leftist,” who wrote that he would happily vote for Democrat Elizabeth Warren, praised Satan, was upset about the 2016 presidential election results.
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most excellent break-down of deaths/causes in america ~
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"Mass-shootings" don't even move the statistical needle on America's Death-meter.
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#15. To: TommyTheMadArtist, 4 (#8)
in almost every walmart there is a loss prevention guy who is either a cop, or works with law enforcement. Where was he at I wonder???
Gilroy, California - Alleged Gilroy Garlic Festival shootings at Christmas Hill Park (southeast of San Jose and the Silicon Valley area) on Sunday, July 28, 2019 at 5:40 p.m. (Pacific Time Zone). Alleged shooter: Santino William Legan, age 19 - was shot multiple times by police at the scene, who had begun firing within a minute, but he was wearing a bulletproof vest. The lead singer of the local band TinMan, which was doing an encore when the shooting began, told KPIX-TV he heard someone shout: "Why are you doing this?" ; the alleged response: "Because I’m really angry." Reportedly: four deaths (a 6-year-old boy, a 13-year-old girl and a 25-year-old man, including the gunman who fatally shot himself), and 13 other injuries. List of other potential targets: religious organizations, courthouses, federal buildings and political institutions involving both the Republican and Democratic parties. [Wikipedia Ref.]
Southaven, Mississippi (a suburb of Greater Memphis, Tennessee). Alleged Walmart shootings near the Mississippi/Tennessee border on Tuesday, July 30, 2019 at approx. 6:33 a.m. (Central Time Zone). Officers arrived at 6:36 a.m. Alleged shooter: Martez Tarrell Abram aka Tez - shot twice by police outside of the building and transported to the hospital for surgery. Reportedly: two male employees killed (Store Manager, A. Brown and stock- worker?, B. Gales) two men injured (Abram and a police officer who was wearing a bulletproof vest). There were around 60 Walmart employees inside of the store at the time of the shooting. A female employee said that coworker Abram pointed a gun at her in the parking lot and said, “You’re next.” There were also reports that a fire had been set inside the building. Hours after the attack, a bomb squad was still on the scene examining a suspicious package. Southaven Police recently underwent active shooter training (two weeks earlier), and stated that the training allowed them to handle this situation efficiently. The Southaven Shooting was the 5th Active Shooter Event at a Walmart Since 2000. Previous 4: Colorado, North Dakota and two in Nevada. [Refs. Fox News - YouTube | nbcnews.com | CDX 42 - Youtube | wreg.com | heavy.com | europeanfreedom.com | et al.]
El Paso, Texas - Alleged Walmart shootings near the Cielo Vista Mall on Saturday, August 3, 2019 at around 10 a.m. local time (Mountain Time Zone). Alleged shooter: Patrick Wood Crusius, age 21 - arrested. No officers fired their weapons on the scene. Reportedly: killed 22 people (thirteen Americans, eight Mexican citizens, and one German citizen) and injured 24 others. Uruguay and Venezuela issued travel warnings to avoid certain United States cities, including Baltimore, Detroit, Albuquerque, Cleveland, Memphis, and Oakland, citing "proliferation of acts of violence" [Wikipedia Ref. ; Cielo Vista translation: a distant view of heaven or the sky ; Surname similarity in Latin: crucio - From crux/cross ; crucify. Two 18th-19th century German Protestant theologians: Christian August Crusius and Ludwig Baumgarten-Crusius]
Dayton, Ohio - Alleged shootings at the entrance of Ned Peppers Bar in the downtown Oregon Historic District of Dayton on Sunday, August 4, 2019, at 1:05 a.m. (Eastern Time Zone). Alleged shooter: Connor Stephen Betts, age 24. Reportedly: Ten people were killed, including the perpetrator (by police already on the scene - within 30 seconds of the first shots being fired), and 27 others were injured (14 of the injured by gunfire), [Wikipedia Ref.]
Biden, Trump, Brian Williams, El Paso, Dayton, Houston, Michigan, Toledo, Denver and "the Day Before" | Tuesday, August 6, 2019 | beforeitsnews.com | Opinion - Conservative: Question: What do Denver, Toledo, Houston and Michigan have in common?
After Shootings, Biden Issues Strange Threat: We Won't Stop The Hate Until America Gives Us Power | August 5, 2019 | thefederalistpapers.org While speaking to donors at a fundraiser in San Diego on Sunday night, Biden referred to the shootings as “the tragic events in Houston today and also in Michigan the day before.”
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So far, Biden’s threat has been shared 3k times and has racked up more than 11k likes.
'The Squad' Goes On Twitter Tirade, Demands Special Session Of Congress To Gut Second Amendment | August 5, 2019 | thefederalistpapers.org All four members of ‘The Squad’ have joined Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer in demanding a special session of Congress to address emergency legislation on gun control.
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Flashbacks re: Jade Helm 2015, Jade Helm 2017 and whatnot: Texas Map Pic [w/links inserted]: Operation Jade Helm 15, a military training exercise, began in the summer of 2015 in 12 Texas counties: Bastrop, Burleson, Brazos, Edwards, Howard, Hudspeth [i.e. El Paso: metropolitan statistical area (MSA) covers all of El Paso and Hudspeth counties in Texas ... forms part of the larger El Paso–Las Cruces CSA/combined statistical area], Kimble, Martin, Marion, Real, Schleicher and Tom Green. It was also set to take place at Camp Bullis in San Antonio and Camp Swift in Bastrop County.
Jade Helm 15 conspiracy theories | Exercise details - Wikipedia multiple states, including Texas, Arizona, Florida, Louisiana, Mississippi, New Mexico, and Utah. Its stated purpose was "to improve the Special Operations Forces' capability as part of the National Security Strategy". ... Maps of the exercise included areas of the United States such as Colorado and California where no actual operations were planned. The cities in Texas include Bastrop, Smithville, Big Spring, Caddo Lake, Caldwell, Christoval, College Station, Dell City, Eldorado, Goliad, Junction, Leakey, Menard, Mountain Home, San Angelo, San Antonio, and Victoria.
We May Finally Know What JADE HELM Has Stood For All Along | JULY 7, 2017 | thedrive.com That the name might be an acronym is only part of what's odd about this year's iteration of the controversial special operations training exercise.
#16. To: strepsiptera (#6)
No Democratic candidate is engaging in the type of denigration of entire ethnic groups and incitement to violence that Trump engages in.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination 
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