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Title: 'Dying of whiteness': why racism is at the heart of America's gun inaction
Source: The Guardian via Yahoo
URL Source: https://news.yahoo.com/dying-whiten ... hy-racism-heart-050040986.html
Published: Aug 9, 2019
Author: Lois Beckett in San Francisco
Post Date: 2019-08-09 08:13:54 by Dakmar
Keywords: None
Views: 1886
Comments: 29

Why does the United States refuse to pass new gun control laws? It’s the question that people around the world keep asking.

According to Dr Jonathan Metzl, a psychiatrist and sociologist at Vanderbilt University, white supremacy is the key to understanding America’s gun debate. In his new book, Dying of Whiteness: How the Politics of Racial Resentment is Killing America’s Heartland, Metzl argues that the intensity and polarization of the US gun debate makes much more sense when understood in the context of whiteness and white privilege.

White Americans’ attempt to defend their status in the racial hierarchy by opposing issues like gun control, healthcare expansion or public school funding ends up injuring themselves, as well as hurting people of color, Metzl argues.

The majority of America’s gun death victims are white men, and most of them die from self-inflicted gunshot wounds. In all, gun suicide claims the lives of 25,000 Americans each year.

White Americans are “dying for a cause”, he writes, even if their form of death is often “slow, excruciating, and invisible”.

Metzl spoke to the Guardian about his analysis this March, and again this week, following what appeared to be a white nationalist terror attack on Latino families doing back-to-school shopping at a Walmart in El Paso, Texas, that left 22 people dead. The conversations have been condensed and edited.

Related: 'Blood on their hands': the intelligence officer whose warning over white supremacy was ignored

You argue that America’s debate over gun control laws and gun violence makes a lot more sense if you actually understand it as a debate over race and whiteness in America. Why is that?

In my research I look at the history and the social meanings of how guns came to be these particularly charged social symbols. So many aspects of American gun culture are really entwined with whiteness and white privilege.

Carrying a gun in public has been coded as a white privilege. Advertisers have literally used words like “restoring your manly privilege” as a way of selling assault weapons to white men. In colonial America, landowners could carry guns, and they bestowed that right on to poor whites in order to quell uprisings from “Negroes” and Indians. John Brown’s raid was about weapons. Scholars have written about how the Ku Klux Klan was aimed at disarming African Americans. When African Americans started to carry guns in public – think about Malcolm X during the civil rights era – all of a sudden, the second amendment didn’t apply in many white Americans’ minds. When Huey Newton and the Black Panthers tried to arm themselves, everyone suddenly said, “We need gun control.”

When states like Missouri changed their laws to allow open carry of firearms, there were parades of white Americans who would carry big long guns through congested areas of downtown St Louis, who would go into places like Walmart and burrito restaurants carrying their guns, and they were coded as patriots. At the same time, there were all the stories about African American gun owners who would go to Walmart and get tackled and shot.

Who gets to carry a gun in public? Who is coded as a patriot? Who is coded as a threat, or a terrorist or a gangster? What it means to carry a gun or own a gun or buy a gun – those questions are not neutral. We have 200 years of history, or more, defining that in very racial terms.

What moments in the past few years have demonstrated to you most clearly that it’s impossible to understand America’s gun control debate without talking about whiteness?

The period after a mass shooting is often very telling. When the shooter is white, the context is the individual narrative – this individual disordered white mind. When the shooter is black or brown, all of a sudden the disorder is culture. The narrative we tell then is about terrorism or gangs.

Then there’s the quiet everyday level. There’s nothing more painful than sitting in a room with family members who have lost loved ones to suicide. I’d talk to people who had lost husbands, wives, kids, parents to gun suicide, and they would come to the interview, often, bringing their guns. And I would ask them: did it change how you think about the gun? And they’d argue it’s never the gun’s fault and they’d need the gun in case an invader would attack them. This narrative about protection against the radicalized invader was so profound. They were almost nervous not bringing their guns.

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#1. To: Dakmar (#0)

Gagging, I struggled through the first two paragraphs of this idiocy.

If ten laws were good enough for God, why do we need more?

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2019-08-09   15:18:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Lod, Dakmar (#1)

I stopped reading when I read the name of the Jewish doctor.

The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie

Horse  posted on  2019-08-09   15:28:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Horse, Lod (#2)

Black children ages 5 to 14 have a drowning rate three times that of their white counterparts.

Swimming pools are racist!

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2019-08-09   15:31:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Horse (#2)

I googled him, typical antifa soyboy type.

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2019-08-09   15:32:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Dakmar (#0)

the intensity and polarization of the US gun debate makes much more sense when understood in the context of [whiteness and white Leftist/Commiecrat] privilege.


Washington DC/Former Fla. man asks Walmart for gun that could ‘kill 200 people’ to make a point, he says | August 9, 2019 | wtoc.com

The man told WPTV he had no intention of causing any harm or alarm to anyone and it wasn't intended as a joke. ... He insists he wasn't serious and that he's a gun violence prevention activist. ... He said it was more of a political statement against the sale of certain firearms.

Phil Attey says he was trying to make a point. (Source: WPTV/CNN)

Phil Attey now admits the best way to make a point might not have been to ask a Walmart clerk Wednesday night if they could sell him a gun that would kill 200 people.

"I'm in a Walmart a few days after El Paso and I'm seeing a white nationalist looking guy purchase a gun and I got mad,” Attey said.

"This is just me. This is the power of an individual, not an organization, not a political campaign, but just the power of an individual to stand up and say, ‘No more,” he said.

Police say they already talked with Attey, a one-time Florida resident who now lives in Washington DC.

Police say they haven’t charged Attey, but they have not ruled it out.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2019-08-09   16:45:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: GreyLmist (#5)

I've never seen a gun that was capable of doing anything on its own.

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2019-08-09   17:03:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Dakmar (#0) (Edited)

When states like Missouri changed their laws to allow open carry of firearms, there were parades of white Americans who would carry big long guns through congested areas of downtown St Louis, who would go into places like Walmart ... carrying their guns, and they were coded as patriots.


Dmitriy Andreychenko sparks chaos at Missouri Walmart | August 9, 2019 | nypost.com [w/1-minute video]

A man carrying a “tactical rifle” and clad in body armor sparked chaos when he walked into a Missouri Walmart on Thursday, police said — less than a week after a gunman [reportedly] stormed a Walmart in El Paso, Texas.

The man, who is in his 20s, sent terrified shoppers running from the Springfield store when he showed up around 4 p.m.

He was detained by an armed off-duty firefighter and later placed under arrest, according to police.

No shots were fired and no injuries were reported, Springfield police said in a statement.

Investigators were working to determine the man’s motive, and the investigation was ongoing, cops added.

The incident came less than a week after [reportedly] racist gunman Patrick Crusius allegedly killed 22 people at an El Paso, Texas, Walmart on Saturday. He [allegedly] posted an anti-Hispanic screed online minutes before the [alleged] slaughter.

Gun-related incidents have surged at Walmarts nationwide, with four others reported since Saturday’s [reported] shooting.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2019-08-09   17:16:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: GreyLmist (#7)

A man carrying a “tactical rifle” and clad in body armor sparked chaos when he walked into a Missouri Walmart on Thursday...

Just because it's legal, does not make it a smart thing to do.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2019-08-09   18:21:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Dakmar (#6) (Edited)

I've never seen a gun that was capable of doing anything on its own.

Leftists/Commiecrats don't really care about gun facts. They just want to be in control of all guns so that others won't ever be close enough to see one unless they're being robbed, attacked or arrested by a Leftist/Commiecrat gunner.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2019-08-09   19:19:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Dakmar (#0)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2019-08-09   21:19:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: ghostdogtxn (#10)

The UK is less than 4 % Asian, less than 2% black, and 95% white.

Sadiq Khan is Mayor of London and he is a Muslim. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2019-08-09   22:10:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: ghostdogtxn (#10)

Yeah! Who the hell do these American Jews think they are, telling us we have follow orders from British Jews?

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2019-08-10   3:17:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: All (#5) (Edited)

Washington DC/Former Fla. man asks Walmart for gun that could ‘kill 200 people’ to make a point, he says | August 9, 2019 | wtoc.com

He said it was more of a political statement against the sale of certain firearms.


Update @ ABC - National News | Yesterday @ 9:33am | stillwaterradio.net

... police in Florida identified a man they were looking for who they alleged told a Walmart salesperson in Port St. Lucie that he was looking for something "that would kill 200 people."

That man was identified as 55-year-old Philip Michael Attey II and during a subsequent interview with detectives, Attey said he is an anti-gun activist and that he believes his statements made to the Walmart clerk in front of a customer "only helps his cause which is for Walmart to stop selling firearms," police said.

Authorities do not consider Attey an immediate threat and he was not arrested or charged. An investigation is ongoing.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2019-08-10   20:51:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Lod (#8) (Edited)

Dmitriy Andreychenko sparks chaos at Missouri Walmart | August 9, 2019 | nypost.com
[w/1-minute video]

A man carrying a “tactical rifle” and clad in body armor sparked chaos when he walked into a Missouri Walmart on Thursday...

Lod: Just because it's legal, does not make it a smart thing to do.


If nothing else, the Missouri Walmart scenario is an example that contradicts Metzl's claim in the UK Guardian article about visibly armed White men of that Open Carry State being "coded as Patriots" when in public places like Walmart. It's also a stark contrast in comparison with the Florida Walmart scenario where reports of the more privileged Leftist "political statement" speaker downplay his terrifying words to the clerk (as if that was less threatening than his "Social Justice Warrior" claim of seeing an unidentified "white nationalist looking guy" supposedly purchasing a gun cuz he says so and states self-righteously that it angered him into doing what he did).

The frantic Missouri Walmart reports present "the good guys" who "prevented a massacre" as: 1. the Store Manager who pulled an alarm to evacuate the premises and 2. the off-duty civilian firefighter who detained the "suspect" at gunpoint as he went outside along with other customers during the alarm - even though he had not moved to shoot anyone inside the store or outside and is not accused of so much as uttering something frightening. Nevertheless, a felony charge of "making a terrorist threat" was reportedly filed quite quickly on the grounds that his militaristic appearance caused the evacuation of a building. The penalty for a "guilty" conviction is: "up to four years in prison and up to a $10,000 fine." [live5news.com Ref.] Like the Florida Walmart "political statement" speaker, the Missouri Walmart "suspect" also claims to have been conducting something of a social experiment: to see if his Second Amendment rights would be respected. Lieutenant Mike Lucas: "He's lucky he's alive still, to be honest." Everybody who didn't kill him is lucky too. [Deprivation Of Rights Under Color Of Law: punishable by a range of imprisonment up to a life term, or the death penalty, depending upon the circumstances of the crime, and the resulting injury, if any. - 4um Ref.]

Discussions at Free Republic and elsewhere have questioned whether Andreychenko is like a Portland, Oregon imported Leftist whose motive is to panic States like Missouri into repealing Open Carry Laws. Maybe so, maybe not. Either way, I've not seen a single press report that cautions against Store Managers panicing people with alarms rather than sending an armed Security Guard to approach the publicly armed person for questioning. In fact, not a single armed Security Guard is mentioned as on-site there at all, afaik. And I've not seen any press reports either that caution against illegally detaining a publicly armed person as the Concealed Carry firefighter did, which might cause injuries or worse that wouldn't have happened otherwise. It's like the press, the police and officials are deliberately promoting wrong lessons from this alleged incident and that's worrisome, imo. Example:

"We applaud the quick actions of our associates to evacuate customers from our store, and we’re thankful no one was injured. This person is no longer welcome in our stores. We are working with the authorities however we can and we appreciate their quick response that prevented this situation from escalating further," the spokesperson's statement reads. [abcnews.go.com Ref.]

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2019-08-11   0:05:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: GreyLmist (#14)

Thanks for all the information and for your thoughts.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2019-08-11   1:23:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Lod (#15) (Edited)

Thank you, Lod, for your thoughtful consideration of the situation. If Walmart stores are in Open Carry States but would rather customers not be armed on their properties, they should at least have prominent signs with words to that requested effect. Of course, that would mean the Concealed Carry firefighter wouldn't have been "admissable" there either.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2019-08-11   1:36:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: GreyLmist (#16)

Common sense should be placed on the endangered species list immediately.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2019-08-11   2:07:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: All (#16) (Edited)

Breaking News: Report of armed man leads to evacuation at Walmart in Wilkesboro, person detained - wxii12.com | Updated: 9:53 PM EDT Aug 10, 2019 [North Carolina - another Open Carry State]

Open carry in the United States - Wikipedia

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2019-08-11   2:12:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Lod (#17)

Common sense should be placed on the endangered species list immediately.

People who want America to be turned into a padded cell for them to feel protected from the 2nd Amendment should get out of our country.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2019-08-11   2:20:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: GreyLmist (#18)

...a call came into 911 dispatch at about 7:55 p.m. on Saturday for a report of a man with a gun being in the area of the Walmart.

What does that begin to mean? There were probably hundreds, if not thousands, of people with guns in "the area of the Walmart."

And if the cops can't say whether it was a sidearm or a toy, that's even more pathetic.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2019-08-11   2:47:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: All (#20)

woke polar bear apologizes for his whiteness

this is satire

babylonbee.com/news/woke-...pologizes-for-being-white

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2019-08-11   2:58:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Lod (#21) (Edited)

babylonbee.com: woke polar bear ... cast himself into exile on an ice floe

Egads! What if they all did that? Then how would Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson keep getting their paychecks? YouTube answer, paraphrased: They'd have to start blaming Hispanic brown bears, Oriental panda bears and Himalayan-Indian red bears for everything instead.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2019-08-15   16:27:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: GreyLmist (#22)

The Bee does a great job of showing the utter insanity of our world today. It's often just as believable as the "real" news of the day.

We live in a cuckoo's nest.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2019-08-15   16:40:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Lod (#20) (Edited)

...a call came into 911 dispatch at about 7:55 p.m. on Saturday for a report of a man with a gun being in the area of the Walmart.

What does that begin to mean? There were probably hundreds, if not thousands, of people with guns in "the area of the Walmart."

And if the cops can't say whether it was a sidearm or a toy, that's even more pathetic.


Checked the news link at #18 for an update, which reports a mysterious escape sequence by the accused, who was arrested but may also have escaped any weaponry charges whatsoever:

Authorities were told a white man may have had a knife, and he had gone inside the Dunham's Sports.

An employee told police that a man was in the back of the store with a gun.

An officer went inside Dunham's Sports and found Minton, who police say pointed a weapon at the officer. Minton was ordered to drop the weapon, while the officer took cover, according to police.

Authorities say Minton left through the back of the store, and went into the nearby Walmart. As officers made their way to the store, people were evacuating. Officers found Minton in a bathroom in the back of the store. Authorities say he dropped the weapon, which turned out to be a pellet pistol that looked like a real handgun.

Minton was arrested without incident. ... Minton is in custody, charged with assault, larceny, possession of stolen items, resisting arrest, obstruction of justice, and communicating threats. Addition charges are possible, according to investigators.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2019-08-15   18:22:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: GreyLmist (#24)

Can we say with confidence that neither Mr. Minton nor any of the cops are MENSA members?

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2019-08-15   18:44:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Lod (#25) (Edited)

Can we say with confidence that neither Mr. Minton nor any of the cops are MENSA members?

Yes, let's do that. It's so much more critically concise than calling Minton a Houdini-like cartoonish culprit and portraying the policers as rather reminiscent of the Keystone Cops.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2019-08-15   19:14:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Dakmar (#12)

Who the hell do these American Jews think they are, telling us we have follow orders from British Jews?

"...Again says Justice Brandeis: “Let us all recognize that we Jews are a distinct nationality, of which every Jew, whatever his country, his station, or shade of belief, is necessarily a member.”

And he concludes his article, from which these quotations are made, with these words:

“Organize, organize, organize, until every Jew must stand up and be counted—counted with us, or prove himself, wittingly or unwittingly, of the few who are against their own people.”..."

www.jrbookson line.com/Intl_Jew_full_version/ij22.htm

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www.sweet liberty.org/perspective/jewishpersecution18.htm

[The real story behind the founding of the Jewnited States of America]]

www.swee tliberty.org/perspective/jewishpersecution19.htm:

"...Six months before Senator Joseph McCarthy's mouth was closed forever, he presented an article titled George Washington's Surrender, in which he quoted British General Cornwallis. The full article can be found in The Union Jack - Epilogue:

"Jonathan Williams recorded in his LEGIONS OF SATAN, 1781, that Cornwallis revealed to Washington that, "A holy war will now begin on America, and when it is ended America will be supposedly the citadel of freedom, but her millions will unknowingly be loyal subjects to the Crown."

"Cornwallis went on to explain what would seem to be a self contradiction

"Your churches will be used to teach the Jew's religion and in less than two hundred years the whole nation will be working for divine world government. That government that they believe to be divine will be the British Empire. All religions will be permeated with Judaism without even being noticed by the masses, and they will all be under the invisible all-seeing eye of the Grand Architect of Freemasonry." ..."

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Cover of the book GREAT RED DRAGON:

greatreddragon.com/cover.htm

DEDICATION TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

greatreddragon.com/dedicate.htm

Index, Great Red Dragon the Book

greatreddragon.com/toc.htm

Fast forward to today. Great Red Dragon,Foreign Money Power in the United States:

greatreddragon.com/

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2019-08-15   19:39:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Dakmar (#27)

Meanwhile...

Jews Disarm the Goyim, while Arming Themselves

www.henrymakow.com/2019/08/Jews-Disarm-the-Goyim.html

always the hypocrites

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2019-08-15   20:19:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: GreyLmist (#26)

Your take is more delicious to read, thanks.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2019-08-15   20:56:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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