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Title: Ex-SS guard on trial: I saw people led into gas chamber
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URL Source: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl ... ber/ar-AAJlxZ9?ocid=spartandhp
Published: Oct 25, 2019
Author: staff
Post Date: 2019-10-25 21:26:44 by BTP Holdings
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Views: 3330
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Ex-SS guard on trial: I saw people led into gas chamber

8 hrs ago

BERLIN (AP) — A 93-year-old former guard at the Nazis' Stutthof concentration camp testified at his trial Friday that he once saw people being led into the gas chamber, followed by screaming and banging sounds behind the locked door.

Bruno Dey, a former SS private, went on trial Oct. 17 at the Hamburg state court. He faces 5,230 counts of accessory to murder for killings while he was at Stutthof from 1944 to 1945.

Asked Friday by the presiding judge what exactly he saw from his sentry's watchtower, Dey replied: "That people were led in, into the gas chamber, that the door was locked," news agency dpa reported.

He said he heard screams and banging shortly after, but added: "I didn't know that they were being gassed."

Dey said that about 20 or 30 prisoners were led in, and that they didn't resist. He said he couldn't say whether they were men or women, because their heads were shaved, or whether they were Jews or other prisoners. And he also couldn't say what happened afterward.

"I didn't see anyone come out," he said.

He testified that, on another occasion, he saw a group of 10 or 15 men being led into the gas chamber, but they then came out and were taken to the crematorium building by people in white overalls. He heard that the prisoners were supposed to work outside the camp and had to be checked first, he said.

© Provided by The Associated Press 93-year-old former SS guard Bruno Dey in the concentration camp Stutthof near Danzig, arrives at the regional court in Hamburg, Germany, Monday, Oct. 21, 2019. The prosecution accuses the 93-year-old man of aiding and abetting the murder of 5230 people. (Daniel Bockwoldt/dpa via AP)

Dey said he and around 400 other soldiers were brought to Stutthof in June or July 1944 and he didn't know at the time what kind of people were incarcerated there. He said he heard only "rumors" that they included political prisoners and Jews.

Though there is no evidence that Dey was involved in a specific killing at the camp near Danzig, today the Polish city of Gdansk, prosecutors argue that as a guard he helped the camp function.

Despite his age, Dey is being tried in a juvenile court because he was 17 when he started serving at Stutthof.

He faces a possible six months to 10 years in prison if convicted. There are no consecutive sentences under German law.


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Aiding and abetting? Looks like the Germans might have this one licked. But the kid was 17 and in a watch tower.

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#1. To: BTP Holdings (#0)

He said he heard screams and banging shortly after, but added: "I didn't know that they were being gassed."

The people putting this man on trial as a mass murderer are too freaking stupid to come in out of the rain.

HE WAS A FREAKING PFC IN THE NAZI ARMY,you bleeping idiots! He made no decisions,and he either followed orders of he would have been shot or hanged himself.

On top of that,they are not even claiming he worked at a death chamber. He was just a freaking tower guard.

Yeah,go after the officers,especially the political officers,but when you start going after Privates just following orders in a dictatorial nations army that can be legally shot on the spot for refusing to obey an order,YOU are becoming a Nazi yourself,of your own free will.

sneakypete  posted on  2019-10-25   21:34:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: sneakypete (#1)

HE WAS A FREAKING PFC IN THE NAZI ARMY,you bleeping idiots! He made no decisions,and he either followed orders of he would have been shot or hanged himself.

On top of that,they are not even claiming he worked at a death chamber. He was just a freaking tower guard.

Yeah,go after the officers,especially the political officers,but when you start going after Privates just following orders in a dictatorial nations army that can be legally shot on the spot for refusing to obey an order,YOU are becoming a Nazi yourself,of your own free will.

Completely, completely, completely agree Sneaky.

These trials are nothing persecutoral revenge conducted for political purposes.

Pinguinite  posted on  2019-10-25   22:03:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Pinguinite, BTPHoldings, sneakypete (#2)

He was lying about the gas chambers but that is required under German law. There were no gas chambers at this unheard of camp or at Auschwitz, Treblinka, Dachau or any of the other camps.

Horse  posted on  2019-10-25   23:50:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Horse, sneakypete (#4)

There were no gas chambers at this unheard of camp or at Auschwitz, Treblinka, Dachau or any of the other camps.

This is correct. When Auschwitz and Poland were still under the control of the Soviets, a chemist went in there on a tour. He obtained scrapings off the wall from the room that was said to be a gas chamber.

The gas they were supposedly using to gas Jews and others leave chemical traces when it is used. There were no chemical traces of this gas in the scrapings that were taken by this chemist.

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BTP Holdings  posted on  2019-10-26   21:12:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: BTP Holdings, Horse (#18)

There were no gas chambers at this unheard of camp or at Auschwitz, Treblinka, Dachau or any of the other camps.

Try selling that bullshit to someone who hasn't viewed captured Nazi "home movies" of naked people being herded into the gas chamber and a Nazi dropping a canister of Cyclon B into the roof vent,and then other prisoners hauling the naked bodies out for burial,or personally talked with WW-2 soldiers who were still serving on duty when I was in the army that helped to liberate the camps.

sneakypete  posted on  2019-10-27   20:21:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#27. To: sneakypete (#24)

There were no death camps in any area where the Allied soldiers went. Those home movies were created by young Jews from Hollywood. There is no evidence of a population loss for Jews. Why were more Jews alive in 1950 than in 1940 if they really lost 6 million which they claimed was a third of their total population.

Horse  posted on  2019-10-27 23:10:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: sneakypete, Horse (#24) (Edited)

There were no gas chambers at this unheard of camp or at Auschwitz, Treblinka, Dachau or any of the other camps.

Try selling that bullshit to someone who hasn't viewed captured Nazi "home movies" of naked people being herded into the gas chamber and a Nazi dropping a canister of Cyclon B into the roof vent,and then other prisoners hauling the naked bodies out for burial,or personally talked with WW-2 soldiers who were still serving on duty when I was in the army that helped to liberate the camps.

Organic chemistry was not my strong suit in school. Not sure either where it ranks with you. But from what we see at the following site it does not seem to be suited for homicidal gas chambers.

www.britannica.com/science/hydrogen-cyanide

Hydrogen cyanide, also called formonitrile (HCN), a highly volatile, colourless, and extremely poisonous liquid (boiling point 26° C [79° F], freezing point -14° C [7° F]). A solution of hydrogen cyanide in water is called hydrocyanic acid, or prussic acid. It was discovered in 1782 by a Swedish chemist, Carl Wilhelm Scheele, who prepared it from the pigment Prussian blue. Hydrogen cyanide and its compounds are used for many chemical processes, including fumigation, the case hardening of iron and steel, electroplating, and the concentration of ores. It also is employed in the preparation of acrylonitrile, which is used in the production of acrylic fibres, synthetic rubber, and plastics.

Hydrogen cyanide is highly toxic because it inhibits cellular oxidative processes. An adult human can withstand 50–60 parts of hydrogen cyanide per million parts of air for an hour without serious consequences, but exposure to concentrations of 200–500 parts per million of air for 30 minutes is usually fatal. A method of inflicting capital punishment consists of administering a fatal dose of hydrogen cyanide gas.

Hydrogen cyanide may be isolated in small quantities from plants, where it occurs in combination with sugars. Large quantities of hydrogen cyanide for laboratory and commercial use are synthesized by three principal methods: (1) treatment of sodium cyanide with sulfuric acid; (2) catalytic oxidation of a methane–ammonia mixture; and (3) decomposition of formamide (HCONH2).

Hydrogen cyanide is an excellent solvent for many salts, but it is not widely used as a solvent because of its toxicity. In pure form, hydrogen cyanide is a stable compound, but it polymerizes readily in the presence of basic substances, such as ammonia or sodium cyanide. The salts are used in the extraction of ores, in electrolytic processes, and in the treatment of steel. Among the important reactions with organic compounds are those with aldehydes and ketones, forming cyanohydrins, which serve as intermediates in many organic syntheses, and with ethylene oxide, forming an intermediate product that is converted to acrylonitrile (CH2=CHCN).

Here is a link to a video of the Cole interview with Dr. Piper on videotape.

freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...i? ArtNum=229634&Disp=5#C5

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