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Title: Ex-SS guard on trial: I saw people led into gas chamber
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URL Source: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl ... ber/ar-AAJlxZ9?ocid=spartandhp
Published: Oct 25, 2019
Author: staff
Post Date: 2019-10-25 21:26:44 by BTP Holdings
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Ex-SS guard on trial: I saw people led into gas chamber

8 hrs ago

BERLIN (AP) — A 93-year-old former guard at the Nazis' Stutthof concentration camp testified at his trial Friday that he once saw people being led into the gas chamber, followed by screaming and banging sounds behind the locked door.

Bruno Dey, a former SS private, went on trial Oct. 17 at the Hamburg state court. He faces 5,230 counts of accessory to murder for killings while he was at Stutthof from 1944 to 1945.

Asked Friday by the presiding judge what exactly he saw from his sentry's watchtower, Dey replied: "That people were led in, into the gas chamber, that the door was locked," news agency dpa reported.

He said he heard screams and banging shortly after, but added: "I didn't know that they were being gassed."

Dey said that about 20 or 30 prisoners were led in, and that they didn't resist. He said he couldn't say whether they were men or women, because their heads were shaved, or whether they were Jews or other prisoners. And he also couldn't say what happened afterward.

"I didn't see anyone come out," he said.

He testified that, on another occasion, he saw a group of 10 or 15 men being led into the gas chamber, but they then came out and were taken to the crematorium building by people in white overalls. He heard that the prisoners were supposed to work outside the camp and had to be checked first, he said.

© Provided by The Associated Press 93-year-old former SS guard Bruno Dey in the concentration camp Stutthof near Danzig, arrives at the regional court in Hamburg, Germany, Monday, Oct. 21, 2019. The prosecution accuses the 93-year-old man of aiding and abetting the murder of 5230 people. (Daniel Bockwoldt/dpa via AP)

Dey said he and around 400 other soldiers were brought to Stutthof in June or July 1944 and he didn't know at the time what kind of people were incarcerated there. He said he heard only "rumors" that they included political prisoners and Jews.

Though there is no evidence that Dey was involved in a specific killing at the camp near Danzig, today the Polish city of Gdansk, prosecutors argue that as a guard he helped the camp function.

Despite his age, Dey is being tried in a juvenile court because he was 17 when he started serving at Stutthof.

He faces a possible six months to 10 years in prison if convicted. There are no consecutive sentences under German law.


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Aiding and abetting? Looks like the Germans might have this one licked. But the kid was 17 and in a watch tower.

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#1. To: BTP Holdings (#0)

He said he heard screams and banging shortly after, but added: "I didn't know that they were being gassed."

The people putting this man on trial as a mass murderer are too freaking stupid to come in out of the rain.

HE WAS A FREAKING PFC IN THE NAZI ARMY,you bleeping idiots! He made no decisions,and he either followed orders of he would have been shot or hanged himself.

On top of that,they are not even claiming he worked at a death chamber. He was just a freaking tower guard.

Yeah,go after the officers,especially the political officers,but when you start going after Privates just following orders in a dictatorial nations army that can be legally shot on the spot for refusing to obey an order,YOU are becoming a Nazi yourself,of your own free will.

sneakypete  posted on  2019-10-25   21:34:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: sneakypete (#1)

HE WAS A FREAKING PFC IN THE NAZI ARMY,you bleeping idiots! He made no decisions,and he either followed orders of he would have been shot or hanged himself.

On top of that,they are not even claiming he worked at a death chamber. He was just a freaking tower guard.

Yeah,go after the officers,especially the political officers,but when you start going after Privates just following orders in a dictatorial nations army that can be legally shot on the spot for refusing to obey an order,YOU are becoming a Nazi yourself,of your own free will.

Completely, completely, completely agree Sneaky.

These trials are nothing persecutoral revenge conducted for political purposes.

Pinguinite  posted on  2019-10-25   22:03:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Pinguinite, BTPHoldings, sneakypete (#2)

He was lying about the gas chambers but that is required under German law. There were no gas chambers at this unheard of camp or at Auschwitz, Treblinka, Dachau or any of the other camps.

Horse  posted on  2019-10-25   23:50:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Horse (#4)

He was lying about the gas chambers but that is required under German law. There were no gas chambers at this unheard of camp or at Auschwitz, Treblinka, Dachau or any of the other camps.

Given his age, the enormity of time that has transpired, as well as the complete public demonization of the entire German military from WW2 being propagated over the vast majority of this man's life, he may well have created a false memory of what happened there to conform with public sentiment, and he'd be none the wiser.

I am aware of the challenges to the notion of their being any gas chambers as described for the purpose of executing people, and that disinfectants to combat lice and such was allegedly in use.

On the other hand, I think care should be taken to avoid implying that nothing bad happened in these camps. If they were not extermination camps, but were instead slave labor camps for people who committed no wrong, it's still very much a systematic and human rights crime.

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#10. To: Pinguinite (#8)

Holy Holohoax. My Government Wouldn’t Lie To Me.

https://vidrebel.wordpress.com/2012/04/21/holy-holohoax-my-government-wouldnt-lie-to-me/

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