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Title: Trump Says The 'Phony' Constitution 'Doesn't Matter' Because He's 'Rich' | MSNBC
Source: [None]
URL Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-qKnvioXHc
Published: Oct 21, 2019
Author: MSNBC
Post Date: 2019-11-03 19:25:02 by BTP Holdings
Keywords: None
Views: 678
Comments: 12

In a stunning reversal, Trump has decided not to host the global summit at his Florida property, after pushback from Democrats and Republicans who found the decision to be in violation of the emoluments clause. Richard Painter, former chief White House ethics lawyer, believes Trump’s behavior is ‘unconstitutional,’ and argues his ‘understanding of the emoluments clause is wrong.’


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You better watch your step Donald. This is why you have people like Rudy Giuliani around you.

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#4. To: BTP Holdings (#0) (Edited)

Title: Trump Says The 'Phony' Constitution 'Doesn't Matter' Because He's 'Rich' | MSNBC

URL Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-qKnvioXHc

Published: Oct 21, 2019

Author: MSNBC

In a stunning reversal, Trump has decided not to host the global summit at his Florida property, after pushback from Democrats and Republicans who found the decision to be in violation of the emoluments clause. Richard Painter, former chief White House ethics lawyer, believes Trump’s behavior is ‘unconstitutional,’ and argues his ‘understanding of the emoluments clause is wrong.’


He did not say that. The MSNBC title is a lie and Commiecrats don't care what the Constitution says unless they think that it can be used to harm their opponents. Anyone who got a misimpression from that video as if Democrats and RINOs have suddenly become anti-Globalists who want to keep all wealthy business-owner Americans out of our government offices, especially if any of their customers are foreign officials, must have forgotten about internationalist organizations like the Clinton Foundation and so on.

This title is an out-of-context distortion but the video at least shows what he really said and meant @ 8:50-20:08.

Trump: The emoluments clause is 'phony' - YouTube, 21.25 minutes | Streamed live on Oct 21, 2019 by Fox News

@ 12:39, he says, "I don't think you people with this phony Emoluments Clause" after speaking about President Washington having a Presidential desk and a business desk. He did not say that the Constitution was phony, as the MSNBC title misclaimed. He did not say that any one of the 3 different Emoluments Clauses within 2 different sections of the Constitution was phony, as the Fox News title blurringly misreported. He was addressing particular people with a phony Emoluments Clause interpretation. To become President, his businesses were put in trust. He explained that in the Fox News video and that he didn't need to promote the Doral property in Florida. Having the G-7 summit there would have been cost-free for America - unlike France, for instance, where it cost the nation many millions monetarily.

GreyLmist  posted on  2019-11-04   20:41:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: All (#4) (Edited)

3 different Emoluments Clauses within 2 different sections of the Constitution


The Constitution of the United States


Article I - The Legislative Branch || Section 6 - Compensation

No Senator or Representative shall, during the Time for which he was elected, be appointed to any civil Office under the Authority of the United States which shall have been created, or the Emoluments whereof shall have been increased during such time; and no Person holding any Office under the United States, shall be a Member of either House during his Continuance in Office.

[Judicial Watch Ref. || November 01, 2011 - Rodearmel v. Clinton (No. 09-171)]


Article I - The Legislative Branch || Section 9 - Limits on Congress

No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince or foreign State.

[4um Ref. w/6.25 min. video re: Rep. Schiff's trip paid by Burisma to meet with U.S. Ambassador + Wikipedia Ref. Burisma Holdings: In 2014, Burisma signed a cooperation agreement with KazMunayGas, the national oil and gas company of Kazakhstan. || No Emolument Clause violation cited yet by Democrats as grounds to impeach him? If not, why not?]


Article II - The Executive Branch || Section 1 - The President

The President shall, at stated Times, receive for his Services, a Compensation, which shall neither be increased nor diminished during the Period for which he shall have been elected, and he shall not receive within that Period any other Emolument from the United States, or any of them [i.e. the States of the United States].

GreyLmist  posted on  2019-11-04   22:11:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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Article I - The Legislative Branch || Section 9 - Limits on Congress

No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince or foreign State.

[4um Ref. w/6.25 min. video re: Rep. Schiff's trip paid by Burisma to meet with U.S. Ambassador + Wikipedia Ref. Burisma Holdings: In 2014, Burisma signed a cooperation agreement with KazMunayGas, the national oil and gas company of Kazakhstan. || No Emolument Clause violation cited yet by Democrats as grounds to impeach him? If not, why not?]

You do know about the "Missing 13th Amendment"?

Here's a brief background [I don't recognize any of the URL's on a quick search. You could do your own]:

"A missing 13th amendment to the U.S. Constitution has been found which says that no lawyers should be allowed into public office. The 13th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States has been altered from its original in order to fool the American public into accepting a government that is mostly illegally in office.

Reference: newspunch.com/missing-13th-amendment-found-no-lawyers-in-public-office/

Not only could they not serve, they could not be citizens of US either.

Been wanting to watch the following, just starting to listen now before people start arriving:

John B. Wells Exposes the Missing 13th Amendment & Adam Schiff Treason Conspiracy (Video)

Posted on September 27, 2019 by Cosmic Convergence

cosmicconvergence.org/?p=35490

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2019-11-10   6:56:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#10) (Edited)

You do know about the "Missing 13th Amendment"?

Here's a brief background [I don't recognize any of the URL's on a quick search. You could do your own]:

"A missing 13th amendment to the U.S. Constitution has been found which says that no lawyers should be allowed into public office. The 13th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States has been altered from its original in order to fool the American public into accepting a government that is mostly illegally in office.

Reference: newspunch.com/missing-13th-amendment-found-no-lawyers-in-public-office/

Not only could they not serve, they could not be citizens of US either.

Been wanting to watch the following, just starting to listen now before people start arriving:

John B. Wells Exposes the Missing 13th Amendment & Adam Schiff Treason Conspiracy (Video)

Posted on September 27, 2019 by Cosmic Convergence

cosmicconvergence.org/?p=35490


Thank you for the source links that you provided as to your concerns about the Titles of Nobility Amendment issues of controversy (aka the allegedly Missing 13th Amendment). It's been about 20 years or so since I first noticed that discordant topic online. I still think that it should be among the easier problems of the past for Americans to resolve agreeably -- possibly by trying again to get that Amendment properly ratified; maybe with the lawyerly-specific word "Esquire" included, although I suspect if it was that they'd just stop using it for themselves. Original text:

If any citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive or retain, any title of nobility or honour, or shall, without the consent of Congress, accept and retain any present, pension, office or emolument of any kind whatever, from any emperor, king, prince or foreign power, such person shall cease to be a citizen of the United States, and shall be incapable of holding any office of trust or profit under them, or either of them.

Congress did not set a time limit for its ratification, so the amendment is still pending before the states. Ratification by an additional 26 states is now needed for its adoption. -- 4um Ref.

P.S. I especially appreciated finding these CrowdStrike and Russiagate/Ukrainegate relevant articles here >> here through the Cosmic Convergence site that you posted for the video.

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