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Title: Thank You for What Service?
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URL Source: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2019/11 ... ce/thank-you-for-what-service/
Published: Nov 11, 2019
Author: Laurence M. Vance
Post Date: 2019-11-11 16:17:19 by Ada
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Views: 161
Comments: 30

Veterans Day should be renamed.

It happened once before. Veterans Day was originally termed Armistice Day. It commemorated the signing of the armistice on November 11 that ended fighting on the Western Front in World War I. But because the “war to end all wars” didn’t, Armistice Day was renamed Veterans Day after World War II. President Eisenhower signed the legislation making the change on June 1, 1954.

Since the first U.S. invasion of Iraq in 1991, and especially since the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq after 9/11, Veterans Day has taken on a new meaning: Military Appreciation Day. Although there are other national holidays (Memorial Day and the Fourth of July) that have degenerated into Military Appreciation Days, Veterans Day is the ultimate day to celebrate all things military.

On Veterans Day, veterans and active duty military personnel can take advantage of special discounts at many places of business and free meals at restaurants. Many cities have parades in honor of the military. Both public and private schools have programs featuring local veterans and military personnel.

Churches have “patriotic” services on the Sunday before Veterans Day where veterans and active duty military are encouraged to wear their uniforms to church, military anthems are played, the names of veterans are listed in the church bulletin, veterans are recognized and applauded during the Sunday morning church service, the church sign has the Scripture on it replaced with something about the military, and more prayers than usual are offered for “the troops.” Some churches show a video tribute to the troops, have a military color guard march down the main aisle to open the service, or have a military chaplain as the guest preacher.

But above all, everyone in the country is bombarded with exhortations to find a veteran and say: “Thank you for your service.”

Service in the military is called being in the service. But what “service” are we supposed to thank a veteran for? How did a veteran serve me or any other American by being in the military?

I can see the point of thanking a waiter or waitress for their service because they actually served me, but the same is not true of a veteran of the U.S. military. Those in the military do many things, but serving me or any other American is not one of them.

How were Americans served when veterans fought unjust and unnecessary wars?

How were Americans served when veterans went to countries they had no business going?

How were Americans served when veterans obeyed immoral orders?

How were Americans served when veterans fought wars that were not constitutionally declared?

How were Americans served when veterans maimed and killed foreigners who had never threatened any American?

How were Americans served when veterans fought senseless and immoral wars?

How were Americans served when veterans bombed foreign countries?

How were Americans served when veterans unleashed sectarian violence?

How were Americans served when veterans destroyed foreign industry, infrastructure, and culture?

How were Americans served when veterans bombed, invaded, and occupied countries that posed no threat to the United States?

How were Americans served when veterans carried out a flawed, reckless, and belligerent U.S. foreign policy?

How were Americans served when veterans killed civilians in error (or on purpose) and dismissed it as collateral damage?

How were Americans served when veterans made widows and orphans?

How were Americans served when veterans carried out inaccurate drone strikes?

How were Americans served when veterans fought wars of offense not defense?

How were Americans served when veterans took sides in civil wars?

How were Americans served when veterans acted as the world’s policemen?

How were Americans served when veterans acted as a global force for evil?

How were Americans served when veterans acted as the president’s personal attack force?

How were Americans served when veterans traveled the world, met interesting people, and then killed them?

The answer is: I wasn’t, and neither was any other American.

However, there are people and organizations that veterans have served.

Presidents have reason to say to veterans, “Thank you for your service.”

Secretaries of Defense have reason to say to veterans, “Thank you for your service.”

Army generals have reason to say to veterans, “Thank you for your service.”

The Joint Chiefs of Staff have reason to say to veterans, “Thank you for your service.”

Navy captains have reason to say to veterans, “Thank you for your service.”

Air Force commanders have reason to say to veterans, “Thank you for your service.”

The military-industrial complex has reason to say to veterans, “Thank you for your service.”

Defense contractors have reason to say to veterans, “Thank you for your service.”

Most Americans don’t belong to any of the above groups. Why, then, should they thank veterans for their service?

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#1. To: Ada (#0)

“Military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.”

Ephesians 5:11King James Version (KJV)

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. "

The best thing about old age is that it doesn't last forever.

noone222  posted on  2019-11-11   16:33:26 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: noone222, Ada (#1)

“Military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.”

To put this horseshit to rest for all time...

Lets get to the basic premise...ANY PERSON THAT HAS IN THE PAST, VOTED FOR THE PEOPLE THAT OWN AND OPERATE THIS GOVERNMENT ARE THE VERY PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR GOVERNMENT SYSTEM, THE CONTINUOUS WARS And the bleeding and dying of people like my family and friends.

One voted or votes they are guilty supporting this government. Those voters voted to legally drag my ass off to war, NOT THEIRS.

Cynicom  posted on  2019-11-11   17:13:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Cynicom (#2)

Those voters voted to legally drag my ass off to war, NOT THEIRS.

What if they gave a war and nobody showed up?

Ada  posted on  2019-11-11   17:28:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Ada (#3) (Edited)

What if they gave a war and nobody showed up?

The sinking of the Lusitania is the main reason the U.S. entered the war in Europe in 1918. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2019-11-11   18:06:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Ada (#3)

What if they gave a war and nobody showed up?

Simple...The government goons that THE GOOD VOTERS PUT IN OFFICE,would come looking for me, AND THEY DID.I was transit in Japan in 1952 when GOVERNMENT GOONS, FBI and state police surrounded my Fathers house demanding he produce me as A HORRIBLE DRAFT DODGER.

Someone voted for that government, not me, I was not olde enough to vote, but was olde enough to die for the voters. Hypocrites.

Cynicom  posted on  2019-11-11   18:46:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Cynicom (#2)

ANY PERSON THAT HAS IN THE PAST, VOTED FOR THE PEOPLE THAT OWN AND OPERATE THIS GOVERNMENT ARE THE VERY PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR GOVERNMENT SYSTEM, THE CONTINUOUS WARS And the bleeding and dying of people like my family and friends.

I voted just once and quickly realized my error. Thus, I never did it again ! My one vote was for Richard Nixon.

I agree, voting is condoning !

Ephesians 5:11King James Version (KJV)

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. "

The best thing about old age is that it doesn't last forever.

noone222  posted on  2019-11-11   19:12:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: noone222 (#6)

I agree, voting is condoning !

Indeed...then have the temerity to condemn kids dragged off to die.

If you recall, voting was mandatory in Russia and there was only one party on the ballot. Here we have a ""choice"" republican or democrat...

The voter can be shot or hung, either way he ends up dead.

Sideline..Bloomberg may run...Do you know where he lives?????

Cynicom  posted on  2019-11-11   19:25:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Ada (#0)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2019-11-11   19:31:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: ghostdogtxn (#8)

Well said !

"If we don’t adhere to the Constitution on matters as significant as presidential eligibility, then the Constitution ceases to be a meaningful document for guiding our nation."

ndcorup  posted on  2019-11-11   19:42:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: BTP Holdings (#4)

The sinking of the Lusitania is the main reason the U.S. entered the war in Europe in 1918. ;)

The Lusitania was a British ship carrying munitions and was sunk in 1915. None of our concern. Wilson (a piece of shit IMO of course) dragged his feet until the very end of the war and then stepped in in anticipation of a seat at the peace table.

Ada  posted on  2019-11-11   21:28:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: ghostdogtxn (#8)

Becoming a soldier is generally a good and patriotic thing.

I disagree.

Pat Tillmans are an exception. Most join the military either in expectation of a career or for adventure and training. When he/she returns home there is no evidence that he is preserving our liberty although it seems that those who sent him/her are a bit afraid of him/her due to training and want to be sure he/she has no access to guns.

Ada  posted on  2019-11-11   21:33:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Cynicom (#5)

When you served in WWII was it as a draftee or volunteer?

Ada  posted on  2019-11-11   21:34:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Ada (#12)

When you served in WWII was it as a draftee or volunteer?

My brother was drafted and died in WWII, I enlisted and survived Korea.

There is no difference between the two.

Tax payers pay their taxes...FROM FEAR OF JAIL...by the very government they voted for. Think about that.Voters vote FOR a government that takes their money, BECAUSE THEY FEAR GOING TO JAIL...WHAT COWARDS. The voters government takes the kids off to war and to die, not a peep from those safe at home paying their taxes like good little citizens. Tax payers and voters are willing to be safe and fight any war to the last drop of my blood.

Eisenhower had it right. Every able bodied 18 year old must do two years military or free public works. The voters shot that down. Just draft the unwashed to bleed and die.

Cynicom  posted on  2019-11-11   22:32:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Cynicom (#7)

Sideline..Bloomberg may run...Do you know where he lives?????

Not really, but I'll guess "TRUMP TOWER" in New York ???

Ephesians 5:11King James Version (KJV)

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. "

The best thing about old age is that it doesn't last forever.

noone222  posted on  2019-11-12   5:27:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: noone222 (#14)

Not really, but I'll guess "TRUMP TOWER" in New York ???

Bermuda

Cynicom  posted on  2019-11-12   6:09:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Ada (#3)

A very wise, witty saying from long ago.

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2019-11-12   7:37:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Cynicom (#5)

Cyni, I take it you weren't as passionate for WW2 when drafted as you are now? Clearly you really really didn't want to go.

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2019-11-12   7:40:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: noone222 (#14)

For tax reasons Trump recently changed his legal residence from NYC to Florida

Ada  posted on  2019-11-12   9:43:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Cynicom (#13)

The voters government takes the kids off to war and to die, not a peep from those safe at home paying their taxes like good little citizens.

The strong Vietnam anti-war protests are no longer in evidence, but at one point the people at home did object.

Ada  posted on  2019-11-12   9:46:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: NeoconsNailed, All (#17)

Cyni, I take it you weren't as passionate for WW2 when drafted as you are now? Clearly you really really didn't want to go.

To discuss history, war and dying, one either had to be there, or study history with an unbiased mind.

Having an opinion about how someone else reacted 75 years ago is precarious position.For instance, 13 males in my graduating class, graduate one week, war the next. We knew instantly who would be dragged off to war and who would stay safely at home. Being poor, unconnected, our days were numbered.

People that paid their taxes, voted for government, demanded we go DO OUR DUTY.

Not olde enough to vote and have a voice, we were olde enough to die while the upstanding citizens stayed home.

I attended my last mass commemoration for friends when Clinton was President.

It was held at NSA in Washington, attended by a thousand people, comrades, military, politicians. It was for twelve men shot down in 1952 by the Russians for being to close to their border. The military and government at the time lied, they said they were LOST on routine training mission. Truman lied.

Who were they? No one cared then or now. War lovers? Young kids that died while others were safe at home.

Cynicom  posted on  2019-11-12   10:00:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Cynicom (#20)

When did you become so passionately in favor of the war?

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2019-11-12   12:31:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: NeoconsNailed (#21)

When did you become so passionately in favor of the war?

That is a personal opinion.

Cynicom  posted on  2019-11-12   12:36:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Cynicom (#22)

You have strained every nerve to defend it to supposed scoffers like me here - - for years. DC's postwar occupation of the wprld too!

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2019-11-12   12:41:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: NeoconsNailed (#23)

You have

One has to be judicial when using the word YOU.

Dictionary tells us this..YOU is ACCUSATORY in nature, unless qualified...in other words YOU is intended to be offensive by those that do not understand or use polite civil language.

Cynicom  posted on  2019-11-12   12:51:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Cynicom (#24)

LOLOLOLOL! One of the best dodges we've seen round heah lately!

You sir truly have the Dodge Spirit!

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2019-11-12   13:31:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Ada (#18)

For tax reasons Trump recently changed his legal residence from NYC to Florida

That's what many people are doing ... Limbaugh is another one. Everyone that can move away from "socialist states" like New York, and cities like NY City, or San Francisco, should do so. The availability of internet is helping a lot of people free themselves from tax slavery.

Ephesians 5:11King James Version (KJV)

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. "

The best thing about old age is that it doesn't last forever.

noone222  posted on  2019-11-12   18:12:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Cynicom (#15)

Bermuda

Are you kidding ? That's unreal. Is pedophilia legal there or what ?

Ephesians 5:11King James Version (KJV)

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. "

The best thing about old age is that it doesn't last forever.

noone222  posted on  2019-11-12   18:17:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: noone222 (#27)

Ross Perot lives on one side, forget who is other side.

As mayor he commuted on weekends.

Cynicom  posted on  2019-11-12   18:25:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Cynicom (#28)

all because ibm limited what perot could earn selling their computing machines ~

therealdeal.com/national/...erots-real-estate-empire/

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2019-11-12   19:08:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Cynicom (#28)

Been going on for a long time. (((Richard Thornburg[h])))'s citizenship was in some such isle.

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2019-11-12   19:30:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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