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Title: One night stands immoral, say 9 in 10 women
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London Telegraph
URL Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai ... t=/news/2006/03/31/ixhome.html
Published: Mar 30, 2006
Author: Nic Fleming
Post Date: 2006-03-30 22:12:31 by Peetie Wheatstraw
Keywords: None
Views: 329
Comments: 72
Samantha of Sex and the City, it is fair to say, would not approve. The casual attitude to sexual relations embraced by the most liberated of the characters in the television series turns out not to reflect the views of 21st century women quite as well as widely imagined. Researchers investigating female attitudes to sex and their sexuality were surprised to find that most women have rather more traditional, conservative views on one-night stands than they expected. Around nine out of 10 of those questioned felt casual sex was immoral and that those women who engaged in it were not doing so primarily for pleasure. They said they felt sorry for women who had one-night stands, that they were lacking something in their lives and if they had not simply lost control through drink and drugs they were seeking emotional rather than physical connection. Dr Sharron Hinchcliffe, a psychologist from the University of Sheffield, presented her findings at the annual conference of the British Psychological Society in Cardiff yesterday. Dr Hinchcliffe said: "Our results did not fit in with the image we have of today's independent woman who can go out and get sexual fulfilment without the ties of a relationship. "There was a view that if women had one-night stands they were doing it for reasons other than their own pleasure, more out of a feeling of being desperate, needy or looking for something, or that they had lost control through drink or drugs. "They said they did it for reasons that were different to those of women in relationships - which they said were for pleasure and to express their love for their partner. They defined it as deviant behaviour. "They referred to the women as emulating male behaviour. It was certainly the view that it was not the way women should behave. "Some of the respondents said these things even though they admitted they had had one-night stands themselves. I was surprised at how judgmental they were. "It makes me question whether women have really gained all the sexual freedom they are supposed to have gained since the Sixties." Dr Hinchcliffe and colleagues carried out in-depth interviews with 46 women selected from the electoral roll aged 23 to 83, with an average age of 48. Around 10 per cent of the sample disagreed with the majority view of "no strings" sex as immoral. Dr Hinchcliffe said that if anything the women in their early thirties were more negative about one-night stands than those of women in their fifties. Some of the participants also expressed concerns about women having casual sex exposing themselves to sexually transmitted disease. A survey of 1,095 men and women carried out on behalf of Amnesty International UK and published in November found that more than a third of people believed a female rape victim was totally or partially responsible if she had behaved in a flirtatious manner with her attacker. Dr Tuppy Owens, of the Sexual Freedom Coalition, a group that campaigns for sexual freedom between consenting adults, said: "I don't like the expression 'one-night stand'. "Two people just banging away at each other can be pretty meaningless and an empty experience, unless there is some passion, care and feeling towards the other person. However, if you go out wondering what might happen, ready to give as well as receive, you might have the most wonderful adventure. "Perhaps if they had asked the questions in a different way they would have got different answers." Norman Wells, the director of Family and Youth Concern, said: "It shows that most women are seeking more than the fleeting gratification that temporary sexual relationships can offer. "Sexual intimacy was never meant to be engaged in outside the context of lifelong union between one man and one woman. "By divorcing sex from marriage in our thinking and in the sexual education given to children and young people, we are promoting something that runs contrary to our basic longings for stability, permanence and commitment."
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#1. To: Zipporah, christine, robin, mehitable, CAPPSMADNESS (#0)
I need the female perspective on this!!
“No man will assert seriously, that when people are of a turbulent spirit, the best way to keep them in order is to furnish them with something substantial to complain of.” ---Edmund Burke
..well I'll tell ya.. the clinical physiologist I see.. recommends it and often LOL!
Maybe that is why I'm such a grouch. :-(
“If a nation or an individual values anything more than freedom, it will lose its freedom; and the irony is that if it is comfort or money it values more, it will lose that too.” W. Somerset Maugham
Uh...are you female...? ;)
“No man will assert seriously, that when people are of a turbulent spirit, the best way to keep them in order is to furnish them with something substantial to complain of.” ---Edmund Burke
I dunno .. this guy is very strange.. everything is clinical to him.. its all about health.. so.. an oddball..
This is sort of where I'm at. But a real relationship would be a phenomenal psychological boost. ;0)
“If a nation or an individual values anything more than freedom, it will lose its freedom; and the irony is that if it is comfort or money it values more, it will lose that too.” W. Somerset Maugham
Cripes, this guy is trying to wreck the Austin Bar Scene. And others.
I would imagine..
Well, this is a survey of women in Britain, and I never thought of them as having a lot of sex drive anyway..."Prim and proper," you know...
“No man will assert seriously, that when people are of a turbulent spirit, the best way to keep them in order is to furnish them with something substantial to complain of.” ---Edmund Burke
Have you found that 10th one yet, Peetie?
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
That one blew the flame-proofing off of me.. ;)
“No man will assert seriously, that when people are of a turbulent spirit, the best way to keep them in order is to furnish them with something substantial to complain of.” ---Edmund Burke
I can't believe that a man of the world like you isn't absolutely fire proof ;)
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
There's no man so clever and worldly that there isn't a woman who's more clever and worldly.. But somehow I don't mind that.... ;)
“No man will assert seriously, that when people are of a turbulent spirit, the best way to keep them in order is to furnish them with something substantial to complain of.” ---Edmund Burke
you mean that you're saying that you don't like women who are 'prim & proper', and that you prefer whores. Is your sister a whore? Is your mother a whore? Is your wife a whore? Is this what you want?
As Woody Allen said in Love and Death, as empty, meaningless experiences go, it's one of the best. I'll always remember the line near the end of For Whom the Bell Tolls, as the protagonist is lining up his shot. His mind was as cold, and as sharp, and as clear as after having made love to a woman he did not love. (Or as my Dad once put it "WTF did I do that for?")
-- Nick Griffin, British National Party i don't necessarily think it's immoral if the two people involved are ok with it and both understand and agree upfront. i've never done a one night stand myself. it's not something i've ever been interested in. i'd much rather be with a man who knows, respects, and desires me for who i am and i want to feel the same about him.
A nation blind to their disgrace...
But I do baby. I promise. Trust me.
-- Nick Griffin, British National Party Is your sister a whore? Is your mother a whore? Is your wife a whore? Is this what you want? Don't you think that's a rather strong reaction to my comment? Maybe even an unwarranted inference? Are you female, BTW?
“No man will assert seriously, that when people are of a turbulent spirit, the best way to keep them in order is to furnish them with something substantial to complain of.” ---Edmund Burke
My sentiments exactly ..
...and whose name is "Bill." ;)
“No man will assert seriously, that when people are of a turbulent spirit, the best way to keep them in order is to furnish them with something substantial to complain of.” ---Edmund Burke
i believe you. :P
A nation blind to their disgrace...
no, I think it's a reasonable question. and you were the one who made the inference, the inference being that you prefer whores. All I did was recognize that inference and ask you to think about it and tell us if you really do prefer whores. I don't prefer whores. How about you? and I think that a man should not treat a woman like a whore. If he does this, then he is destroying himself when he does this.
Red, it's a lighthearted flirty thread. Peetie didn't mean anything like that. I know him as another ID from another forum and, trust me, he respects us and the ladies in his life.
A nation blind to their disgrace...
"No," you're not female? I think it's a reasonable question. You do? I think it's an impertinent question. and you were the one who made the inference, the inference being that you prefer whores. All I did was recognize that inference and ask you to think about it and tell us if you really do prefer whores. I "made an inference" that you "recognized" and now you want me to "confirm" your insolent "recognition" of my "inference"? I don't prefer whores. Maybe you don't have that option. How about you? Yes, how about me? I was "making an inference" that I "preferred whores" by your reckoning last time you addressed that point---aren't you satisfied yet? and I think that a man should not treat a woman like a whore. If he does this, then he is destroying himself when he does this. Well, that's one point in your favor. Now maybe if you didn't "destroy" yourself with liquor and atrocious manners, you'd be in fine shape. Good night.
“No man will assert seriously, that when people are of a turbulent spirit, the best way to keep them in order is to furnish them with something substantial to complain of.” ---Edmund Burke
chris.. you're exactly right on this..
You both seem like fine gentlemen and excellent posters in your own right. Please don't fight. We have enough people who'd love to see us fighting amongst ourselves. It was just a misunderstanding. C'mon...do what Bush would do - Kiss and Make Up!!!
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
HEY we dont need anymore 'festive' men ;P
I don't think we have any festive men here on 4 now that Trace left (so we're now...left without a trace???)
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
Hey Zip - how do I post pictures?
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
Seems a bit restrictive to me.
I am not gay.
ROFLMAO!! Good point.. LOL!
are you talking about from a website? or personal pictures on your hard drive?
A nation blind to their disgrace...
I've got a free plane ticket on AA to DFW waiting for you. :-) See private message...LMAO
#2. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#0)
#3. To: Zipporah (#2)
the clinical physiologist I see.. recommends it and often
#4. To: BTP Holdings (#3)
Maybe that is why I'm such a grouch. :-(
#5. To: BTP Holdings (#3)
Maybe that is why I'm such a grouch. :-(
#6. To: Zipporah (#5)
"Two people just banging away at each other can be pretty meaningless and an empty experience, unless there is some passion, care and feeling towards the other person. However, if you go out wondering what might happen, ready to give as well as receive, you might have the most wonderful adventure.
#7. To: BTP Holdings (#6)
Two people just banging away at each other can be pretty meaningless and an empty experience
#8. To: BTP Holdings (#6)
This is sort of where I'm at. But a real relationship would be a phenomenal psychological boost. ;0)
#9. To: tom007 (#7)
Cripes, this guy is trying to wreck the Austin Bar Scene. And others.
#10. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#1)
#11. To: mehitable (#10)
Have you found that 10th one yet, Peetie?
#12. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#11)
#13. To: mehitable (#12)
I can't believe that a man of the world like you isn't absolutely fire proof ;)
#14. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#9)
..."Prim and proper,"
#15. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#0)
"Two people just banging away at each other can be pretty meaningless and an empty experience, unless there is some passion, care and feeling towards the other person.
Siding with Islam against the neocons is no more a viable tactic than volunteering to infect yourself with the Ebola virus instead of AIDS.
#16. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#1)
#17. To: christine (#16)
I'd much rather be with a man who knows, respects, and desires me for who i am and i want
Siding with Islam against the neocons is no more a viable tactic than volunteering to infect yourself with the Ebola virus instead of AIDS.
#18. To: Red Jones (#14)
you mean that you're saying that you don't like women who are 'prim & proper', and that you prefer whores.
#19. To: christine (#16)
i don't necessarily think it's immoral if the two people involved are ok with it and both understand and agree upfront. i've never done a one night stand myself. it's not something i've ever been interested in. i'd much rather be with a man who knows, respects, and desires me for who i am and i want to feel the same about him.
#20. To: christine (#16)
i'd much rather be with a man who knows, respects, and desires me for who i am and i want to feel the same about him.
#21. To: Tauzero (#17)
But I do baby. I promise. Trust me.
#22. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#18)
#23. To: Red Jones (#22)
#24. To: Red Jones (#22)
no,
#25. To: christine (#23)
Red, it's a lighthearted flirty thread. Peetie didn't mean anything like that. I know him as another ID from another forum and, trust me, he respects us and the ladies in his life.
#26. To: Red Jones, Peetie Wheetstraw (#25)
#27. To: mehitable (#26)
C'mon...do what Bush would do - Kiss and Make Up!!!
#28. To: Zipporah (#27)
#29. To: Zipporah (#27)
#30. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#0)
"Sexual intimacy was never meant to be engaged in outside the context of lifelong union between one man and one woman.
#31. To: mehitable (#28)
I don't think we have any festive men here on 4 now that Trace left (so we're now...left without a trace???)
#32. To: mehitable (#29)
#33. To: Zipporah (#2)
..well I'll tell ya.. the clinical physiologist I see.. recommends it and often LOL!
#34. To: christine (#32)
From a website.
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
#35. To: mehitable (#29)
You know what picture would pacify me, doncha? ;)
Hey Zip - how do I post pictures?
“No man will assert seriously, that when people are of a turbulent spirit, the best way to keep them in order is to furnish them with something substantial to complain of.” ---Edmund Burke
#36. To: mehitable (#29)
k.. like this w/o the spaces: < img src="URL" >
Hey Zip - how do I post pictures?
#37. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#35)
I'm one step ahead of ya, Peetie....as long as my arch supports hold.
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
#38. To: mehitable (#34)
You've got a website with your pictures?
From a website.
“No man will assert seriously, that when people are of a turbulent spirit, the best way to keep them in order is to furnish them with something substantial to complain of.” ---Edmund Burke
#39. To: IndieTX (#33)
Promises.. promises ;)
I've got a free plane ticket on AA to DFW waiting for you. :-) See private message...LMAO
#40. To: Zipporah (#36)
So where it says URL I just substitute the actual URL for the pic site? Ah, Peetie is soon going to be swooning!!!!
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
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