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Title: March Diary [Derbyshire on Immigration]
Source:
National Review Online
URL Source: http://www.nationalreview.com/derbyshire/derbyshire200603310749.asp
Published: Mar 31, 2006
Author: John Derbyshire
Post Date: 2006-03-31 12:46:35 by Peetie Wheatstraw
Keywords: None
Views: 394
Comments: 73
The issue of immigration was suddenly all over the news this month. The interesting question here is: Why does the federal government find it so difficult to do anything? It would seem to be a pretty elementary thing, and a basic function of government, to secure the nation’s borders and monitor who comes in, who goes out. Why can’t we do that? You hear all sorts of reasons. Big Agriculture wants fruit pickers and hog gutters; Elite America wants domestic servants; Middle America wants gardeners (sorry “landscapers” — hard to keep up with job-title inflation); the Dems want future voters; the Catholic Church wants souls; and so on. The real reason we find it so hard to do anything about immigration, or even to talk about it, or even to think straight about it, is that it has a large intersection with the race issue, about which Americans have a humongous collective neurosis. Those huge protests the other day weren’t just made up of illegal immigrants — you can’t tell me that. What they were was, demonstrations of racial solidarity. This is well-nigh unmentionable — for sure nobody in the MSM mentioned it — yet it was perfectly obvious from the crowds and their placards. This is the wind from the south predicted in Amy Chua’s book World on Fire, the wind that blew Hugo Chavez and Evo Morales into office, the wind that may soon bring us a People’s Republic of Mexico. But no, that can’t be right. There is no such thing as race. Never has been, never will be. A couple more “diversity” workshops, and everything will be fine. No need for further action. Everything will be fine, everything will always be fine.
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#22. To: Phaedrus (#12)
10 years in the Bay Area for me. They didn't scare me there. In fact, I had four of 'em deported. Two for trying to break into my apartment (never pick the lock on an armed man's house when he is home) and two for breaking into my car. Those two arrests helped break up a *HUGE* goods-smuggling ring. Where were the goods going? South of the border. Everyone in California knows what is going on - with the dotcom boom, nobody really cared. You'd get another five-figure bonus or another batch of stock the next week so you wouldn't miss a TV or a window. So long as things stayed in a predictable pattern, nobody cared. Now everyone cares because the Genie has left the bottle. Even the *CHINESE* I know down there are ready to take up arms....and are seriously pissed off. The street protests backfired in every single way imaginable. It has united people in a way nobody thought possible - they are becoming Americans again, at least for a short time. People whose sole concern was abortion are now "single issue voters" over the border now. This is like a miniature Pearl Harbor; the sleeping tiger has awakened and its not the "Nation of Aztlan"....these are going to be VERY interesting times going forward.
Well just do a search on 'la raza'.. 'le mecha' 'aztlan' ..heres a start.. http://www.mayorno.com/WhoIsMecha.html There is no solution with our elected officials this entire matter can be traced back to the CFR.. Building A North American Community.. we will have a ditto mark of the EU..: http://www.cfr.org/publication/8102/building_a_north_american_community.html
Not bloody likely, Peetie.
Then you'd best prepare yourself.
That goes without saying...
Well, there you go. Runnin' scared is a bad habit.
This is the kind of thing that makes me feel more like a Cassandra than a mehitable, but I've been telling people for years now that the United States is either going to have to fight for or lose the Southwest in a few years. I thought it would take another generation but things are moving faster than I realized. Unlike stupid, self-loathing white people in America, the Mexicans think very highly of themselves (which I don't mind, by the way) and think they should own this real estate and run things themselves. And they won't be very nice to the white folks who happen to be around. Nor the black folks either. they don't like black people. Kind of puts the black "leadership" in a quandary. Who to side with? the dreaded white oppressor or the Mexicans who would be as happy to kill you as oppress you. Decisions, decisions. People had better figure out what side they're on as the Mexican-American war is coming.
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
The Plan of San Diego where you can learn about la raza's dream of killing all Anglo males over the age of sixteen, and more.
Ah..thanks Lod..great Steve Sailer.. Phaedrus here ya go read this:
The Mexicans had better bring help. Americans have done a pretty good job of arming themselves and I doubt they'll hesitate to protect their own and their property. It's only the government that's ambivilant.
But ours are registered, have trigger locks, and much lower magazine capacity. Defeat (and retreat) in detail, not to mention about 1/3 working actively for the enemy.
-- Nick Griffin, British National Party I wish I were as optimistic as you Phaedrus. It's not so much that I doubt the American people (or a good portion of them anyway) - it's that I doubt OUR GOVERNMENT and I believe they work against our interests. For example, if American citizens started fighting back against the Mexicans, our govt would take the side of the Mexicans and start killing Americans or imprisoning/fining them. We are seeing this already with the Minutemen. And our alleged president, Bush, was down in Mexico yesterday firmly applying his lips all over the backside of Vincente Fox. One hope I do have is that the veterans of this current Iraqi war when they do return home will at least have the benefit of having used arms and explosive and being able to stand up under fire and handle themselves under war conditions. That's a big advantage over the Mexicans whom I think currently restrict their fighting to internecine gang wars.
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
Estamos de acuerdo, mehitabelita. ;)
“No man will assert seriously, that when people are of a turbulent spirit, the best way to keep them in order is to furnish them with something substantial to complain of.” ---Edmund Burke
Can I get that acuerdo on the rocks with a side of nachos?
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
OK but what's the point? Talk is cheap. I sincerely doubt that the good citizens of Chula Vista or National City (south of San Diego) are going to say "Here, have my property" without a fight. A significant, armed minority are going to say "Bring it".
If talk is cheap then what's the point of discussing this at all?
Not if it's an acuerdo migratorio, mi bien---eso no... ;)
“No man will assert seriously, that when people are of a turbulent spirit, the best way to keep them in order is to furnish them with something substantial to complain of.” ---Edmund Burke
lol well you do have a point.
Intruding meme alert! Intruding meme alert! Dissonance! Dissonance!
-- Nick Griffin, British National Party Touché! "Actions" may speak louder than "words," but the "action" of a forum discussion is "words, words, words." Taunting people about that is just a ruse to suppress discussion of the issue.
“No man will assert seriously, that when people are of a turbulent spirit, the best way to keep them in order is to furnish them with something substantial to complain of.” ---Edmund Burke
No argument. Our disgusting little Wannabe Emperor Bush has done a better job of trashing the nation than Clinton, which I would not have thought possible.
Now, Zip, don't go all sophistry on me.
Welllllllll.. ;)
Now that's a laugher. I do NOT see discussion suppressed on this forum or anywhere else in the nation, hard as I look. All this country does is jabber.
How am I being deceptive?? You were the one were you not that dismissed the cohesive issue re the illegals and that it wasnt about race ..you doubted that they had anything that made them of one mind.. Therefore.. I posted something and you dismissed it by saying talk is cheap.. so the logical conclusion would be.. then why discuss it..
Well it did seem the logical conclusion.. to the statement did it not? ;)
Excuse me sir, would you care to take out a low cost loan? Perhaps there's a vacation or home improvement you'd like to make. Very reasonable terms.
-- Nick Griffin, British National Party I don't think you're being deceptive, I think you're hung up on words and maybe outthinking yourself. Anyone can say lots of scarifying things. It's up to us to decide whether we should be scarified. And, frankly, "why should we talk about it at all" is not a relevant question. Sure we should talk about it but truth should be sought and spoken and actions should be clearly distinguished from words. Any monkey can type words.
Indeed. Besides, have people forgotten the old saw that, "The pen is mightier than the sword"? Or is the come-back to that now, "..but not mightier than an AC-130 gunship...!!!!" ;)
“No man will assert seriously, that when people are of a turbulent spirit, the best way to keep them in order is to furnish them with something substantial to complain of.” ---Edmund Burke
OH.. any monkey can type words?? Et tu..
Better rate if I certify I am non-white?
The avoidance all seems a bit, well, Aristotelean, doesn't it?
-- Nick Griffin, British National Party LOL! .. Well.. ya think they're some bombs being dropped?? ;P
Quite..
I knew what I was typing ... (now you'll just have to decide)
Oh no, nothing so crude. We have a highly complex and reasonably accurate model developed by trained experts to determine credit-worthiness, and race is not a variable.
-- Nick Griffin, British National Party But ours are registered, Not in Tejas. have trigger locks, Yeah, they're in the garage someplace. and much lower magazine capacity. . . . thirty-one, thirty-two, thirty-three, thirty-four, . . . Defeat (and retreat) in detail, not to mention about 1/3 working actively for the enemy. Remember the Alamo!
Repetition gets tiresome.
I'm sure. Back on topic, the race of an illegal immigrant is irrelevant, which is to say that those who play the race card are playing games. Well, my opinion, of course, but I'm sure you'll agree it is a well founded one ... ;-}
Is this perhaps the point at which I tell you to stuff it??
You have no sense of humor. You will do whatever it pleases you to do.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestThey don't frighten me and if our government had any spine, they would simply inforce the law or change it.
#23. To: Phaedrus (#18)
I see we do agree. I doubt, though, that the illegals are cohesive. It is our government that is at fault. The solution is simple but not easy for the whores and parasites in Washington, D.C. -- enforce the law or teach America that the law is a joke. They are teaching us to disrespect the law.
#24. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#21)
No, because the "farm" will soon be a hacienda with no American holding title to it.
#25. To: Zipporah (#23)
There is no solution with our elected officials ...
#26. To: Phaedrus (#25)
Then you'd best prepare yourself.
#27. To: mirage (#22)
#28. To: Zipporah, all (#14)
#29. To: Zipporah. All (#3)
#30. To: lodwick, Phaedrus (#29)
#31. To: mehitable (#28)
People had better figure out what side they're on as the Mexican-American war is coming.
#32. To: Phaedrus (#31)
Americans have done a pretty good job of arming themselves
Siding with Islam against the neocons is no more a viable tactic than volunteering to infect yourself with the Ebola virus instead of AIDS.
#33. To: Phaedrus (#31)
#34. To: mehitable (#28)
This is the kind of thing that makes me feel more like a Cassandra than a mehitable, but I've been telling people for years now that the United States is either going to have to fight for or lose the Southwest in a few years. I thought it would take another generation but things are moving faster than I realized. Unlike stupid, self-loathing white people in America, the Mexicans think very highly of themselves (which I don't mind, by the way) and think they should own this real estate and run things themselves. And they won't be very nice to the white folks who happen to be around. Nor the black folks either. they don't like black people. Kind of puts the black "leadership" in a quandary. Who to side with? the dreaded white oppressor or the Mexicans who would be as happy to kill you as oppress you. Decisions, decisions. People had better figure out what side they're on as the Mexican-American war is coming.
#35. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#34)
#36. To: Zipporah (#30)
Phaedrus here ya go read this ...
#37. To: Phaedrus (#36)
#38. To: mehitable (#35)
Can I get that acuerdo on the rocks with a side of nachos?
#39. To: Tauzero (#32)
But ours are registered, have trigger locks, and much lower magazine capacity. Defeat (and retreat) in detail, not to mention about 1/3 working actively for the enemy.
#40. To: Zipporah (#9)
it's the word THEY have chosen to identify with race..
Siding with Islam against the neocons is no more a viable tactic than volunteering to infect yourself with the Ebola virus instead of AIDS.
#41. To: Zipporah (#37)
If talk is cheap then what's the point of discussing this at all?
#42. To: mehitable (#33)
... it's that I doubt OUR GOVERNMENT and I believe they work against our interests. And our alleged president, Bush, was down in Mexico yesterday firmly applying his lips all over the backside of Vincente Fox.
#43. To: Zipporah (#37)
If talk is cheap then what's the point of discussing this at all?
#44. To: Tauzero (#40)
ntruding meme alert! Intruding meme alert! Dissonance! Dissonance!
#45. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#41)
...just a ruse to suppress discussion of the issue.
#46. To: Phaedrus (#43)
#47. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#41)
Touché! "Actions" may speak louder than "words," but the "action" of a forum discussion is "words, words, words." Taunting people about that is just a ruse to suppress discussion of the issue.
#48. To: Phaedrus (#4)
I sick to death of hearing about everything in terms of race.
Siding with Islam against the neocons is no more a viable tactic than volunteering to infect yourself with the Ebola virus instead of AIDS.
#49. To: Zipporah (#46)
Therefore.. I posted something and you dismissed it by saying talk is cheap.. so the logical conclusion would be.. then why discuss it..
#50. To: Zipporah (#47)
Well it did seem the logical conclusion.. to the statement did it not? ;)
#51. To: Phaedrus (#49)
I don't think you're being deceptive, I think you're hung up on words and maybe outthinking yourself. Anyone can say lots of scarifying things. It's up to us to decide whether we should be scarified. And, frankly, "why should we talk about it at all" is not a relevant question. Sure we should talk about it but truth should be sought and spoken and actions should be clearly distinguished from words. Any monkey can type words.
#52. To: Tauzero (#48)
Excuse me sir, would you care to take out a low cost loan? Perhaps there's a vacation or home improvement you'd like to make. Very reasonable terms.
#53. To: Zipporah (#44)
Welllllllll.. ;)
Siding with Islam against the neocons is no more a viable tactic than volunteering to infect yourself with the Ebola virus instead of AIDS.
#54. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#50)
ndeed. Besides, have people forgotten the old saw that, "The pen is mightier than the sword"? Or is the come-back to that now, "..but not mightier than an AC-130 gunship...!!!!" ;)
#55. To: Tauzero (#53)
The avoidance all seems a bit, well, Aristotelean, doesn't it?
#56. To: Zipporah (#51)
OH.. any monkey can type words?? Et tu..
#57. To: Phaedrus (#52)
Better rate if I certify I am non-white?
Siding with Islam against the neocons is no more a viable tactic than volunteering to infect yourself with the Ebola virus instead of AIDS.
#58. To: Tauzero (#32)
#59. To: Tauzero (#53)
#60. To: Tauzero (#57)
Oh no, nothing so crude. We have a highly complex and reasonably accurate model developed by trained experts to determine credit-worthiness, and race is not a variable.
#61. To: Phaedrus (#56)
I knew what I was typing ... (now you'll just have to decide)
#62. To: Zipporah (#61)
Is this perhaps the point at which I tell you to stuff it??
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