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Title: March Diary [Derbyshire on Immigration]
Source: National Review Online
URL Source: http://www.nationalreview.com/derbyshire/derbyshire200603310749.asp
Published: Mar 31, 2006
Author: John Derbyshire
Post Date: 2006-03-31 12:46:35 by Peetie Wheatstraw
Keywords: None
Views: 563
Comments: 73

The issue of immigration was suddenly all over the news this month. The interesting question here is: Why does the federal government find it so difficult to do anything? It would seem to be a pretty elementary thing, and a basic function of government, to secure the nation’s borders and monitor who comes in, who goes out. Why can’t we do that? You hear all sorts of reasons. Big Agriculture wants fruit pickers and hog gutters; Elite America wants domestic servants; Middle America wants gardeners (sorry “landscapers” — hard to keep up with job-title inflation); the Dems want future voters; the Catholic Church wants souls; and so on.

The real reason we find it so hard to do anything about immigration, or even to talk about it, or even to think straight about it, is that it has a large intersection with the race issue, about which Americans have a humongous collective neurosis. Those huge protests the other day weren’t just made up of illegal immigrants — you can’t tell me that. What they were was, demonstrations of racial solidarity. This is well-nigh unmentionable — for sure nobody in the MSM mentioned it — yet it was perfectly obvious from the crowds and their placards.

This is the wind from the south predicted in Amy Chua’s book World on Fire, the wind that blew Hugo Chavez and Evo Morales into office, the wind that may soon bring us a People’s Republic of Mexico. But no, that can’t be right. There is no such thing as race. Never has been, never will be. A couple more “diversity” workshops, and everything will be fine. No need for further action. Everything will be fine, everything will always be fine.

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#1. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#0)

The interesting question here is: Why does the federal government find it so difficult to do anything? It would seem to be a pretty elementary thing

The answer is simple.. they dont want to do anything about it.. just like w/Iraq.. this is their purpose...

And the demonstrations were more about racial solidarity than immigration.. IF they were demonstrating in regard to the "American Dream" ..would they not be carrying US flags??

Zipporah  posted on  2006-03-31   12:52:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Zipporah (#1)

And the demonstrations were more about racial solidarity than immigration.. IF they were demonstrating in regard to the "American Dream" ..would they not be carrying US flags??

Here in SoCal, we have a radio station---and the Spanish language radio networks are the fastest growing and most profitable here---that advertises with the one word "RAZA" in big bold letters. It means "race" in Spanish---not as in "picnics" and "Formula One," but as in "ethnic cleansing" and "genocide." Americans had better get a clue, and goddam quick.

“No man will assert seriously, that when people are of a turbulent spirit, the best way to keep them in order is to furnish them with something substantial to complain of.” ---Edmund Burke

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-03-31   12:58:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#2)

Here in SoCal, we have a radio station---and the Spanish language radio networks are the fastest growing and most profitable here---that advertises with the one word "RAZA" in big bold letters. It means "race" in Spanish---not as in "picnics" and "Formula One," but as in "ethnic cleansing" and "genocide." Americans had better get a clue, and goddam quick.

I saw the most frightening video a few years back.. it was made by CFIR.. I believe was the name.. but it was some older Americans who were demonstrating in Sacramento re Prop 187.. I'll see if I can find it online .. but.. the signs that the illegals were carrying.. OMG.. depictions of white's heads cut off.. it was unreal. The illegals attacked the demonstrators.. sending several to the hospital.. NO one was arrested.. nothing was done.. it was just horrible. My d-i-l saw the video and said.. "those are tribal people.. what on earth? " She was shocked .. and she's from a 3rd world country...

Zipporah  posted on  2006-03-31   13:05:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#0)

What they were was, demonstrations of racial solidarity.

Oh, this is just nonsense. I sick to death of hearing about everything in terms of race. It's a national neurosis.

Phaedrus  posted on  2006-03-31   13:10:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Phaedrus (#4)

Oh, this is just nonsense. I sick to death of hearing about everything in terms of race. It's a national neurosis.

Come here and see for yourself, güero.

“No man will assert seriously, that when people are of a turbulent spirit, the best way to keep them in order is to furnish them with something substantial to complain of.” ---Edmund Burke

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-03-31   13:13:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Phaedrus (#4)

Oh, this is just nonsense. I sick to death of hearing about everything in terms of race. It's a national neurosis.

Then explain why 'they' themselves identify with La Raza??

Zipporah  posted on  2006-03-31   13:14:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Zipporah (#6)

Then explain why 'they' themselves identify with La Raza??

Words. What part of "illegal" don't you understand?

Phaedrus  posted on  2006-03-31   13:20:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#5)

Come here and see for yourself, güero.

Lived in San Diego County for 12 years.

Phaedrus  posted on  2006-03-31   13:21:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Phaedrus (#7)

Words. What part of "illegal" don't you understand?

What?? I totally understand that they're illegal.. Words DO have meaning.. it's the word THEY have chosen to identify with race.. personally I dont care if they were Icelanders.. Have you ever seen any of the videos of these people?? I have and its frightening.

Zipporah  posted on  2006-03-31   13:23:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Phaedrus (#8)

Lived in San Diego County for 12 years.

Ciego, entonces..

“No man will assert seriously, that when people are of a turbulent spirit, the best way to keep them in order is to furnish them with something substantial to complain of.” ---Edmund Burke

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-03-31   13:23:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#10)

Ciego, entonces..

We speak English in America, Peetie.

Phaedrus  posted on  2006-03-31   13:26:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Zipporah (#9)

What?? I totally understand that they're illegal.. Words DO have meaning.. it's the word THEY have chosen to identify with race.. personally I dont care if they were Icelanders.. Have you ever seen any of the videos of these people?? I have and its frightening.

Well maybe we're agreeing vehemently. To characterize this "{issue" as racist from the American POV is off-point and a dodge, is my point. They don't frighten me and if our government had any spine, they would simply inforce the law or change it. They dissemble.

Phaedrus  posted on  2006-03-31   13:29:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: All (#12)

Well, yeh, proof-reading is a virtue ... that's "issue" and "enforce" but y'all get the drift, I'm sure.

Phaedrus  posted on  2006-03-31   13:31:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Phaedrus (#12)

Well maybe we're agreeing vehemently. To characterize this "{issue" as racist from the American POV is off-point and a dodge, is my point. They don't frighten me and if our government had any spine, they would simply inforce the law or change it. They dissemble.

Putting the illegal issue aside .. my point is that THEY are cohesive.. and their identity is not that they're illegal but that it's their race that they identify with.. they see CA and Texas etc.. as their land.. and our government is doing NOTHING.. well worse they are enabling.. If you had seen the video in question that I saw.. you'd understand exactly what I'm talking about.. its no dodge.. people need to wake up and understand what they're up against..

Zipporah  posted on  2006-03-31   13:34:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Zipporah (#9)

We talk things to death in this country. And DO nothing.

Phaedrus  posted on  2006-03-31   13:35:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Phaedrus (#11)

Ciego, entonces..

We speak English in America, Peetie.

Not for long, a menos que nos despertemos...

“No man will assert seriously, that when people are of a turbulent spirit, the best way to keep them in order is to furnish them with something substantial to complain of.” ---Edmund Burke

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-03-31   13:35:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Phaedrus (#15)

We talk things to death in this country. And DO nothing.

And is it not important to make people aware?? And what do you propose to do?

Zipporah  posted on  2006-03-31   13:38:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Zipporah (#14)

Putting the illegal issue aside .. my point is that THEY are cohesive.. and their identity is not that they're illegal but that it's their race that they identify with.. they see CA and Texas etc.. as their land.. and our government is doing NOTHING.. well worse they are enabling.. If you had seen the video in question that I saw.. you'd understand exactly what I'm talking about.. its no dodge.. people need to wake up and understand what they're up against..

I see we do agree. I doubt, though, that the illegals are cohesive. It is our government that is at fault. The solution is simple but not easy for the whores and parasites in Washington, D.C. -- enforce the law or teach America that the law is a joke. They are teaching us to disrespect the law.

Phaedrus  posted on  2006-03-31   13:39:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#16)

Not for long, a menos que nos despertemos...

Don't bet the farm on it.

Phaedrus  posted on  2006-03-31   13:39:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Zipporah (#17)

And is it not important to make people aware?? And what do you propose to do?

I think people are aware. What do I propose? Vote against every incumbent who will not stand up to this issue. Vote for a 3rd party or don't vote. And protect your own. One way or another, it ain't gonna be pretty.

Phaedrus  posted on  2006-03-31   13:42:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Phaedrus (#19)

Not for long, a menos que nos despertemos...

Don't bet the farm on it.

No, because the "farm" will soon be a hacienda with no American holding title to it.

“No man will assert seriously, that when people are of a turbulent spirit, the best way to keep them in order is to furnish them with something substantial to complain of.” ---Edmund Burke

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-03-31   13:44:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Phaedrus (#12)

They don't frighten me and if our government had any spine, they would simply inforce the law or change it.

10 years in the Bay Area for me. They didn't scare me there. In fact, I had four of 'em deported. Two for trying to break into my apartment (never pick the lock on an armed man's house when he is home) and two for breaking into my car.

Those two arrests helped break up a *HUGE* goods-smuggling ring. Where were the goods going? South of the border.

Everyone in California knows what is going on - with the dotcom boom, nobody really cared. You'd get another five-figure bonus or another batch of stock the next week so you wouldn't miss a TV or a window. So long as things stayed in a predictable pattern, nobody cared.

Now everyone cares because the Genie has left the bottle. Even the *CHINESE* I know down there are ready to take up arms....and are seriously pissed off.

The street protests backfired in every single way imaginable. It has united people in a way nobody thought possible - they are becoming Americans again, at least for a short time.

People whose sole concern was abortion are now "single issue voters" over the border now.

This is like a miniature Pearl Harbor; the sleeping tiger has awakened and its not the "Nation of Aztlan"....these are going to be VERY interesting times going forward.

mirage  posted on  2006-03-31   13:45:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Phaedrus (#18)

I see we do agree. I doubt, though, that the illegals are cohesive. It is our government that is at fault. The solution is simple but not easy for the whores and parasites in Washington, D.C. -- enforce the law or teach America that the law is a joke. They are teaching us to disrespect the law.

Well just do a search on 'la raza'.. 'le mecha' 'aztlan' ..heres a start..

http://www.mayorno.com/WhoIsMecha.html

There is no solution with our elected officials this entire matter can be traced back to the CFR.. Building A North American Community.. we will have a ditto mark of the EU..:

http://www.cfr.org/publication/8102/building_a_north_american_community.html

Zipporah  posted on  2006-03-31   13:45:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#21)

No, because the "farm" will soon be a hacienda with no American holding title to it.

Not bloody likely, Peetie.

Phaedrus  posted on  2006-03-31   13:45:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Zipporah (#23)

There is no solution with our elected officials ...

Then you'd best prepare yourself.

Phaedrus  posted on  2006-03-31   13:47:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Phaedrus (#25)

Then you'd best prepare yourself.

That goes without saying...

Zipporah  posted on  2006-03-31   13:48:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: mirage (#22)

Well, there you go. Runnin' scared is a bad habit.

Phaedrus  posted on  2006-03-31   13:53:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Zipporah, all (#14)

This is the kind of thing that makes me feel more like a Cassandra than a mehitable, but I've been telling people for years now that the United States is either going to have to fight for or lose the Southwest in a few years. I thought it would take another generation but things are moving faster than I realized. Unlike stupid, self-loathing white people in America, the Mexicans think very highly of themselves (which I don't mind, by the way) and think they should own this real estate and run things themselves. And they won't be very nice to the white folks who happen to be around. Nor the black folks either. they don't like black people. Kind of puts the black "leadership" in a quandary. Who to side with? the dreaded white oppressor or the Mexicans who would be as happy to kill you as oppress you. Decisions, decisions. People had better figure out what side they're on as the Mexican-American war is coming.

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-03-31   14:50:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Zipporah. All (#3)

The Plan of San Diego where you can learn about la raza's dream of killing all Anglo males over the age of sixteen, and more.

Lod  posted on  2006-03-31   14:59:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: lodwick, Phaedrus (#29)

Ah..thanks Lod..great Steve Sailer..

Phaedrus here ya go read this:

http://www.vdare.com/Sailer/060129_sandiego.htm

Zipporah  posted on  2006-03-31   15:05:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: mehitable (#28)

People had better figure out what side they're on as the Mexican-American war is coming.

The Mexicans had better bring help. Americans have done a pretty good job of arming themselves and I doubt they'll hesitate to protect their own and their property. It's only the government that's ambivilant.

Phaedrus  posted on  2006-03-31   15:11:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Phaedrus (#31)

Americans have done a pretty good job of arming themselves

But ours are registered, have trigger locks, and much lower magazine capacity. Defeat (and retreat) in detail, not to mention about 1/3 working actively for the enemy.


Siding with Islam against the neocons is no more a viable tactic than volunteering to infect yourself with the Ebola virus instead of AIDS.

-- Nick Griffin, British National Party

Tauzero  posted on  2006-03-31   15:15:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Phaedrus (#31)

I wish I were as optimistic as you Phaedrus. It's not so much that I doubt the American people (or a good portion of them anyway) - it's that I doubt OUR GOVERNMENT and I believe they work against our interests. For example, if American citizens started fighting back against the Mexicans, our govt would take the side of the Mexicans and start killing Americans or imprisoning/fining them. We are seeing this already with the Minutemen. And our alleged president, Bush, was down in Mexico yesterday firmly applying his lips all over the backside of Vincente Fox.

One hope I do have is that the veterans of this current Iraqi war when they do return home will at least have the benefit of having used arms and explosive and being able to stand up under fire and handle themselves under war conditions. That's a big advantage over the Mexicans whom I think currently restrict their fighting to internecine gang wars.

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-03-31   15:16:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: mehitable (#28)

This is the kind of thing that makes me feel more like a Cassandra than a mehitable, but I've been telling people for years now that the United States is either going to have to fight for or lose the Southwest in a few years. I thought it would take another generation but things are moving faster than I realized. Unlike stupid, self-loathing white people in America, the Mexicans think very highly of themselves (which I don't mind, by the way) and think they should own this real estate and run things themselves. And they won't be very nice to the white folks who happen to be around. Nor the black folks either. they don't like black people. Kind of puts the black "leadership" in a quandary. Who to side with? the dreaded white oppressor or the Mexicans who would be as happy to kill you as oppress you. Decisions, decisions. People had better figure out what side they're on as the Mexican-American war is coming.

Estamos de acuerdo, mehitabelita. ;)

“No man will assert seriously, that when people are of a turbulent spirit, the best way to keep them in order is to furnish them with something substantial to complain of.” ---Edmund Burke

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-03-31   15:19:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#34)

Can I get that acuerdo on the rocks with a side of nachos?

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-03-31   15:22:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Zipporah (#30)

Phaedrus here ya go read this ...

OK but what's the point? Talk is cheap. I sincerely doubt that the good citizens of Chula Vista or National City (south of San Diego) are going to say "Here, have my property" without a fight. A significant, armed minority are going to say "Bring it".

Phaedrus  posted on  2006-03-31   15:22:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Phaedrus (#36)

If talk is cheap then what's the point of discussing this at all?

Zipporah  posted on  2006-03-31   15:24:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: mehitable (#35)

Can I get that acuerdo on the rocks with a side of nachos?

Not if it's an acuerdo migratorio, mi bien---eso no... ;)

“No man will assert seriously, that when people are of a turbulent spirit, the best way to keep them in order is to furnish them with something substantial to complain of.” ---Edmund Burke

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-03-31   15:24:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Tauzero (#32)

But ours are registered, have trigger locks, and much lower magazine capacity. Defeat (and retreat) in detail, not to mention about 1/3 working actively for the enemy.

lol well you do have a point.

Phaedrus  posted on  2006-03-31   15:25:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Zipporah (#9)

it's the word THEY have chosen to identify with race..

Intruding meme alert! Intruding meme alert! Dissonance! Dissonance!


Siding with Islam against the neocons is no more a viable tactic than volunteering to infect yourself with the Ebola virus instead of AIDS.

-- Nick Griffin, British National Party

Tauzero  posted on  2006-03-31   15:25:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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