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Title: Bush committed to comprehensive immigration reform
Source: Big News Network
URL Source: http://feeds.bignewsnetwork.com/?sid=8779ed6b8a5a3e8a
Published: Mar 31, 2006
Author: Big News Network
Post Date: 2006-03-31 16:18:13 by Zipporah
Keywords: None
Views: 201
Comments: 14

Big News http://Network.com Thursday 30th March, 2006

President Bush says he is committed to getting a comprehensive immigration reform package through the U.S. Congress, one that includes creation of a guest worker program.

He spoke after talks in the Mexican resort of Cancun with President Vicente Fox.

President Bush went to Cancun at a time when Americans across the country are focusing on the emotional issue of illegal immigration.

Polls show the public is just about split, with half wanting a crackdown on undocumented workers and others saying steps should be taken to allow many to work in the United States legally on a temporary basis.

The debate followed Mr. Bush to Mexico - the homeland of many of the more than 11 million undocumented immigrants now in the United States. Mexican President Vicente Fox has long called for reforms, such as implementation of the Bush administration's proposed guest worker program.

As they sat down for talks in Cancun, President Bush reassured his counterpart that getting a bill with a guest worker program is a priority. He said he is optimistic a good bill will pass Congress, but made clear that given the passions on both sides, it may take time. 'I told the president there is a legislative process that is going forward and that it may look cumbersome to some, but that is how our democracy works,' he said.

The Senate started debate on immigration reform on Wednesday. The House passed its version of the bill in December - one that focused solely on border security and enforcement and said illegal immigrants should be treated as felons.

Immigration advocates have taken to the streets to protest the House bill and are urging the Senate to strip out the language making illegal immigration a felony and include a guest worker program. Mr. Bush left no doubt, that is his hope too. 'I am optimistic we can get a bill done and I look forward to working with members of both parties to get a bill done,' he said.

President Bush also praised Mexico for promising stronger action to police the U.S.-Mexican border. Speaking in Spanish, President Fox stressed border security is a shared responsibility.

He said Mexico's commitment to security is firm, and noted his government is working with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security on border issues. He said Mexico wants a secure border, not only for the benefit of its own citizens, but also for the benefit of its relationship with the United States.

The Bush-Fox talks were a prelude to a three-way North American summit meeting Friday that will also include the new prime minister of Canada, Stephen Harper. Prime Minister Harper also met privately with President Bush - their first official meeting since Mr. Harper's took office two months ago.

Before their formal bilateral discussions got under way, the three leaders did a little sightseeing, leaving the resort town to tour some ancient Mayan ruins. They wrapped up their first full day in Cancun with a dinner hosted by President Fox.

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#1. To: Zipporah (#0)

Damn.

I saw the words "Bush committed" and got my hopes up.

alpowolf  posted on  2006-03-31   16:20:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: alpowolf (#1)

Damn.

I saw the words "Bush committed" and got my hopes up.

LOL!!!! Alas not to be.. yet!!

Zipporah  posted on  2006-03-31   16:20:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Zipporah (#0)

The guest worker program is what the Germans and the French did with Turks and Algerians after WW2.

Realistically, they won't go back, the kids become ghettoised, and we saw the results in France.

If the GW program is implemented, citizenship will have to be granted otherwise we end up with a huge mess. A large population of alienated workers unable to move into the mainstream. Then the kids become angry.

And voila, Paris 2005 in the USA.

Either make 'em citizens.

Since no one will or has gone after employers, the issue is really one of hysteria.

"I don't hate all Arabs just because a few of them blew up the World Trade Center, so why should they hate all US soldiers just because one shot their father?" asks US Army Cpl. Joshua Hedges, of Warrensburg, Mo., a father of three.

"Saddam had [things] under control and we don't basically," he says. "Iraq was safe under Saddam. You weren't safe from him, but you were safe from your neighbor and you were safe from Syrian people trying to come in and blow things up." - Pvt. Isaac Ussery, of Naples, Fla

swarthyguy  posted on  2006-03-31   16:22:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Zipporah (#0)

Polls don't show a "split" unless Diebold is being used.

Sam Houston  posted on  2006-03-31   16:39:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: swarthyguy (#3)

The guest worker program is what the Germans and the French did with Turks and Algerians after WW2.

Realistically, they won't go back, the kids become ghettoised, and we saw the results in France.

If the GW program is implemented, citizenship will have to be granted otherwise we end up with a huge mess. A large population of alienated workers unable to move into the mainstream. Then the kids become angry.

And voila, Paris 2005 in the USA.

Either make 'em citizens.

Since no one will or has gone after employers, the issue is really one of hysteria.

We're already in a huge mess.. I say do what Eisenhower (?) did send them back over the border and put the national guard at the border.. This is an invasion in every sense of the word.

Zipporah  posted on  2006-03-31   16:42:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Sam Houston (#4)

Polls don't show a "split" unless Diebold is being used.

Excellent point..

Zipporah  posted on  2006-03-31   16:44:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Zipporah (#5)

I say do what Eisenhower (?) did send them back over the border and put the national guard at the border..

Absolutely!

mirage  posted on  2006-03-31   16:46:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: mirage (#7)

And I shouldve added prosecute the employers under the PRESENT law!!

Zipporah  posted on  2006-03-31   16:48:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Zipporah (#5)

Well, it's been stunning to see the change over the past decade and a half or so in so many aspects of America, the most prominent being that it's a bilingual culture for huge swathes of the country. When the issue was manageable, it wasn't addressed.

I'm afraid it's gotten to the point of insolvability.

That said, build the damn wall, and legalize those here.

I think it's too late to go after employers now. The illegals are too well embedded.

One thing we can be sure of; whatever solution is arrived at in the Congress of the Bribed, it'll be the worst of all possible worlds.

Tho' the stupidity of the marchers in their arrogance and condescension by their flags, banners and placards is striking.

They're egging on Americans, and that usually backfires.

One major brawl in a highschool........

"I don't hate all Arabs just because a few of them blew up the World Trade Center, so why should they hate all US soldiers just because one shot their father?" asks US Army Cpl. Joshua Hedges, of Warrensburg, Mo., a father of three.

"Saddam had [things] under control and we don't basically," he says. "Iraq was safe under Saddam. You weren't safe from him, but you were safe from your neighbor and you were safe from Syrian people trying to come in and blow things up." - Pvt. Isaac Ussery, of Naples, Fla

swarthyguy  posted on  2006-03-31   16:56:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Zipporah (#8)

And I shouldve added prosecute the employers under the PRESENT law!!

Heh.

This is Mirage's proposed border bill:

1) The IRS shall deny businesses the ability to deduct an illegal worker's wages against revenue.
2) 5 years in prison and $100,000 fine for hiring an illegal worker
3) $50,000 fine and one year at hard labor for illegal border crossing
4) There shall be a one-year amnesty for all illegal entrants. After that year, they will face the full penalty of these new rules.

Present law is fine; let's just jack it up a bit while we are in a "law passing mood"...

mirage  posted on  2006-03-31   17:04:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: swarthyguy (#9)

If we legalize them we will be accomplishing several things:

we will demonstrate how weak we are and how unwilling we are to uphold our own laws and civilization - this may be true anyway but do we really want to prove it to the world?

we will have probably at least 4 times the number of legalized persons as they will then be allowed to bring over their families. Their families are enormous. Very bad idea.

These people do not want to be Americans. They are economic refugees who just want to make a buck to survive. But they have no interest in becoming Americans, learning the language, adapting to the culture, or fitting in. They are Mexicans. Period. We will have allowed a vast group of foreigners into this country - legally - who can then do whatever they want to subvert and destroy our system or take it over.

We should do exactly what Zip says - punish the employers and those who assist them, cut off all welfare and medical benefits to them, and get those New Orleans buses and just ship them all back to Mexico. Give them Senor Fox home address - they're his people.

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-03-31   17:04:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: mehitable (#11)

Don't think deportativo would work even if the will was there.

However, smaller things, like English offical language of govt, no drivers tests in Spanish or voter ballots etc would at least reduce the feeling of displacement that comes from press 1 for spanish.....

"I don't hate all Arabs just because a few of them blew up the World Trade Center, so why should they hate all US soldiers just because one shot their father?" asks US Army Cpl. Joshua Hedges, of Warrensburg, Mo., a father of three.

"Saddam had [things] under control and we don't basically," he says. "Iraq was safe under Saddam. You weren't safe from him, but you were safe from your neighbor and you were safe from Syrian people trying to come in and blow things up." - Pvt. Isaac Ussery, of Naples, Fla

swarthyguy  posted on  2006-03-31   17:21:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: alpowolf (#1)

I saw the words "Bush committed" and got my hopes up.

LOL...same reaction I had.

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-03-31   17:31:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: alpowolf (#1)

I saw the words "Bush committed" and got my hopes up.

You beat me to it.

It's getting to the point that I can no longer read articles regarding his fantastical lies.

Lod  posted on  2006-03-31   17:32:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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