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Title: (White) Profs Urge NYTimes To Correct The Many Errors In Its '1619 Project'
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URL Source: https://www.zerohedge.com/political ... t-many-errors-its-1819-project
Published: Dec 24, 2019
Author: Tyler Durden
Post Date: 2019-12-24 22:21:05 by Horse
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Views: 851
Comments: 9

Five historians have written a letter to the editor to The New York Times telling the “newspaper of record” to correct the major and serious errors that riddle its 1619 Project.

The 1619 Project sought to “reframe the country’s history, understanding 1619 as our true founding,” due to the arrival in that year of 20 African slaves to a Virginia colony.

The correction request was signed by Victoria Bynum of Texas State University, James McPherson and Sean Wilentz of Princeton University, James Oakes of the City University of New York and Gordon Wood of Brown University, reports The Washington Post.

Their letter was published shortly after The Wall Street Journal reported on several of those professors’ concerns about the project that had been circulating on social media.

The letter states in part:

These errors, which concern major events, cannot be described as interpretation or “framing.” They are matters of verifiable fact, which are the foundation of both honest scholarship and honest journalism. They suggest a displacement of historical understanding by ideology. Dismissal of objections on racial grounds — that they are the objections of only “white historians” — has affirmed that displacement.

On the American Revolution, pivotal to any account of our history, the project asserts that the founders declared the colonies’ independence of Britain “in order to ensure slavery would continue.” This is not true. If supportable, the allegation would be astounding — yet every statement offered by the project to validate it is false. Some of the other material in the project is distorted, including the claim that “for the most part,” black Americans have fought their freedom struggles “alone.”

Still other material is misleading. The project criticizes Abraham Lincoln’s views on racial equality but ignores his conviction that the Declaration of Independence proclaimed universal equality, for blacks as well as whites, a view he upheld repeatedly against powerful white supremacists who opposed him. The project also ignores Lincoln’s agreement with Frederick Douglass that the Constitution was, in Douglass’s words, “a GLORIOUS LIBERTY DOCUMENT.”

Instead, the project asserts that the United States was founded on racial slavery, an argument rejected by a majority of abolitionists and proclaimed by champions of slavery like John C. Calhoun.

Given that the 1619 Project is being developed into a book and student curriculum, the scholars state it is very important that these errors be amended to reflect an accurate history of America.

But The New York Times said no.

“New York Times Magazine editor Jake Silverstein addressed each concern from the professors but stood firmly behind the reporting and declined to correct it,” the Post reports.

Read the letter to the editor in the Times and the Post’s coverage of it.


Poster Comment:

The Ashkenazi Times has a Jewish editor, Jake Silverstein, whose opinion rules over that of the serfs. Jews are committed to Identity politics.

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The 1619 Project sought to “reframe the country’s history, understanding 1619 as our true founding,” due to the arrival in that year of 20 African slaves to a Virginia colony.

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The Ashkenazi Times has a Jewish editor, Jake Silverstein, whose opinion rules over that of the serfs. Jews are committed to Identity politics.

Jews have gone to great lengths to hide the face that the founding of America began with a cross and a charter to spread the gospel, in 1607:

The First Charter of Virginia; April 10, 1606

JAMES, by the Grace of God, King of England, Scotland, France and Ireland, Defender of the Faith, &c. WHEREAS our loving and well-disposed Subjects, Sir Thorn as Gales, and Sir George Somers, Knights, Richard Hackluit, Clerk, Prebendary of Westminster, and Edward-Maria Wingfield, Thomas Hanharm and Ralegh Gilbert, Esqrs. William Parker, and George Popham, Gentlemen, and divers others of our loving Subjects, have been humble Suitors unto us, that We would vouchsafe unto them our Licence, to make Habitation, Plantation, and to deduce a colony of sundry of our People into that part of America commonly called VIRGINIA, and other parts and Territories in America, either appertaining unto us, or which are not now actually possessed by any Christian Prince or People, situate, lying, and being all along the Sea Coasts, between four and thirty Degrees of Northerly Latitude from the Equinoctial Line, and five and forty Degrees of the same Latitude, and in the main Land between the same four and thirty and five and forty Degrees, and the Islands "hereunto adjacent, or within one hundred Miles of the Coast thereof;

And to that End, and for the more speedy Accomplishment of their said intended Plantation and Habitation there, are desirous to divide themselves into two several Colonies and Companies; the one consisting of certain Knights, Gentlemen, Merchants, and other Adventurers, of our City of London and elsewhere, which are, and from time to time shall be, joined unto them, which do desire to begin their Plantation and Habitation in some fit and convenient Place, between four and thirty and one and forty Degrees of the said Latitude, alongst the Coasts of Virginia, and the Coasts of America aforesaid: And the other consisting of sundry Knights, Gentlemen, Merchants, and other Adventurers, of our Cities of Bristol and Exeter, and of our Town of Plimouth, and of other Places, which do join themselves unto that Colony, which do desire to begin their Plantation and Habitation in some fit and convenient Place, between eight and thirty Degrees and five and forty Degrees of the said Latitude, all alongst the said Coasts of Virginia and America, as that Coast lyeth:

We, greatly commending, and graciously accepting of, their Desires for the Furtherance of so noble a Work, which may, by the Providence of Almighty God, hereafter tend to the Glory of his Divine Majesty, in propagating of Christian Religion to such People, as yet live in Darkness and miserable Ignorance of the true Knowledge and Worship of God, and may in time bring the Infidels and Savages, living in those parts, to human Civility, and to a settled and quiet Government: DO, by these our Letters Patents, graciously accept of, and agree to, their humble and well-intended Desires; ....

https://avalon.law.yale.edu/17th_century/va01.asp

[I find the word for the other class of arrivals interesting: "merchants". I wonder that it might be a clue in the riddle of Ezekiel 17.

The Parable of Two Eagles and a Vine

(x-ref Matthew 13:24-30)

https://biblehub.com/kjv/ezekiel/17.htm

https://biblehub.com/kjv/matthew/13.htm#24

I believe the clue to the first Eagle and the Vine is here:

https://biblehub.com/john/15-1.htm

https://biblehub.com/exodus/19-4.htm

https://biblehub.com/john/14-3.htm

I'll let you guess who the second eagle might be.

Hint: https://biblehub.com/isaiah/10-20.htm ]

Cape Henry Memorial - Wikipedia

The Cape Henry Memorial commemorates the first landfall at Cape Henry, in Virginia Beach, Virginia, of colonists bound for the Jamestown settlement. After landing on April 26, 1607, they explored the area, named the cape, and set up a cross before proceeding up the James River. A stone cross, set up in 1935 by the Daughters of the American Colonists, stands in the quarter-acre site. The memorial marks the First Landing, the very beginning of what would become British North America and subsequently Anglo Can…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Henry_Memorial

1619 and The Arrival of African Christianity

09-03-2019 by

Rev. Dr. David Daniels, III

The 1619 Project invites Black Church Studies seemingly to join its intellectual revolution. In reframing the origins of the African American Christianity, the arrival of African Christians in August of 1619 to Colonial Virginia and later to Colonial Maryland, New York (Dutch New Netherlands), and the Carolinas might become the new inaugural moment of the Black Church. African Christianity rather than the “slave religion” of the plantation might serve as a founding source of the Christianity of Black people in North America.

The historians John Thornton, Linda Heywood, and others have convinced me at least that among the “20-plus” Africans who were illegally transported to the Virginia Colony included Christians. The evidence includes a 1619 letter written by a local Roman Catholic bishop, Manuel Bautista Soares, in which he expressed his outrage that 4,000-plus African Christians from Ndongo in west- central Africa had been captured by “slave traders.” This letter shows, then, a significant presence of African Christians in one of the regions where Africans were captured by “slave traders.”

The Africans of 1619 came to North America, according to Thornton and other scholars, from one of the most Christianized regions in Africa: the Empire of the Kongo and its neighboring kingdoms of Loango and Ndongo located along or near the west-central African Atlantic coast. By 1619, the Kongolese Empire possessed its own cathedral, churches, lay Christian societies, and schools for girls and boys; Africans served as Catholic priests, catechists, church musicians, school principals, school teachers, court scribes, and Christian monarchs; in the prior century, there even existed a Catholic bishop of Kongolese descent. At the Catholic college in the nearby Portuguese colonial outpost at Luanda, Africans were enrolled as students and were among the graduates. In comparison to the Kongo of 1619, early colonial Virginia was an undeveloped Christian society.

If Kongolese Christianity is a major factor in the development of the Black Church, then we will need to let the images of the movies Roots and Django, based on 19th-century slavery, stop serving as the historical backdrop for the Africans of 1619. A new historical context will need to be drawn and new images will need to be generated.

Maybe Black Church Studies can find these new images among the African Christians of the 1620s and 1630s who requested Christian marriage for themselves and baptism for their children. Maybe African Christians such as Paulo d'Angola, Elizabeth Key and others who mounted legal challenges against their enslavement between 1644 and 1656 could be a source of these new images. Maybe the small number of African Christians who served as elected officials during the 1600s such as Matthias de Sousa, a member of the legislature of Colonial Maryland from 1641 to 1642, could offer a new set of images.

Along with new images, Black Church Studies could explore the Christian theology and practices that these African Christians introduced to North America during the 1600s. Since Kongolese theology had already deemed the enslavement of Christians as un-Christian during the 1500s, possibly this theological perspective on freedom could have framed the legal challenges to slavery mounted by the first generation of African Christians in British and Dutch North America. We also could develop further the studies of Yolanda Covington-Ward and other scholars who collectively have shown that the future core markers of “slave religion” were already present in the Kongolese Christianity of the 1600s: healing practices, the practice of prophecy, spirit possession, call-and-response singing, and the ring shout.

If the origins of African American Christianity might be found in Kongolese Christianity and not solely on the slave plantation, then new questions will need to be crafted: When did the practice of Kongolese Christianity turn into African American Christianity? If the “God of the oppressed” framed the theological discourse of the post-1776 era and later, what theological motif framed Kongolese Christianity in North America during the 1600s and early 1700s? How did the Kongolese theology of freedom critique the British philosophy of liberty? If all African Christians were not first introduced to Christianity by “slave masters” and their preachers, how do we reconstruct the role that Kongolese Christian theology played in the development of the Black Church and American Christianity? What role did African Christians shaped by Kongolese Christianity have in evangelizing Africans and non-Africans in North America? Since the British often distinguished between Christians and Negroes with the Christian as white and the Negro as heathen, how did these African Christians of the 1600s construct their own religious identity as well as the image of the British? These are the kind of questions promoted by shifting the origins of the Black Church to 1619.

If African Christians did carry African Christianity with them to North America in 1619 and subsequent decades, Black Church Studies could reasonably support The 1619 Project in reframing the narrative of the origins of the United States.

Image Credit: The Old Plantation, c. 1790. Enslaved Africans on a South Carolinan plantation. Image in the public domain, sourced from Wikipedia.

© 2019 McCormick Theological Seminary, 5460 S. University, Chicago, IL 60615; 773-947-6300

https://mccormick.edu/news/1619-and-arrival-african-christianity

The Black Hebrew Israelites [accused in the attack on the kosher market in Jersey City] is based, I believe, partly on their belief that blacks were the true Israelite, and on their interpretation of:

Genesis 15:12And when the sun was going down, a deep sleep fell upon Abram; and, lo, an horror of great darkness fell upon him. 13And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years; 14And also that nation, whom they shall serve, will I judge: and afterward shall they come out with great substance. 1

https://biblehub.com/kjv/genesis/15.htm

I have believed for a long time that that passage refers to Christian America ["The United States is Still a British Colony, Extorting Taxes for The Crown"/

[PDF] WERE YOU EVER FREE***CAN YOU BE FREE***WITHOUT OWNING LAND??? THE LAND STILL BELONGS TO THE KING, AMERICANS WERE NEVER FREE

THE LAND STILL BELONGS TO THE KING, AMERICANS WERE NEVER FREE. ***My Comments*** Well it’s been 5 years since I released "The United States Is Still A British Colony, part I.". I asked in part 7, the last chapter, that others having seen the truth and relevance of this book, do their own research, to see what others across the country could turn up.

https://patriots4truth.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/were-you-ever-free.pdf ]

We Christians have been "in a land that is not our own" for over 400 years. If you parse the prophesy, you have to ask, when did we become "afflicted"? For a long time, I have felt it referred to when the northern colony arrived in December of 1620. I first began to wonder about that when I chanced on a document from the Northern Colony which indicated animosity between the North and South even back then. It said "those crosses" in the southern colony were burning down their churches. The first thing the northern colony did when they arrived, was to encroach on the adjoining border already set by the southern colony. Protestants formed the southern colony, coming to America after suffering persecution in the Old World. Martin Luther, after reading the Jew's "holiest" book, the Talmud, recommended that Christians burn down the Jews' synagogues. Perhaps those "churches" weren't churches at all...

The Puritan States of America

In 1630 John Winthrop (1588-1649), ancestor of Senator John Kerry, led a group of Puritans to New England. His was not the first of these believers to come to Massachusetts. The first were those who had come in 1620 under the leadership of their pastor John Robertson (1575-1625). These immigrants were also known as “separatists” when they sailed from England to America on the “Mayflower.”

In New England these Pilgrims, as they called themselves, founded the Massachusetts Bay Colony, which they organized according to their understanding of the Five Books of Moses and other Jewish themes. They believed that they were the Children of Israel and therefore sought to live by the commandments of God as found in the Torah...."

http://jbuff.com/c070711.htm

PURITANS WERE MORE JEWISH THAN PROTESTANTS

Hugh Fogelman

http://christianity- revealed.com/cr/files/puritansweremorejewishthanprotestants.html

Puritans, Prophecy and Palestine

Accounts of the role of European and North American Christians in the creation of the state of Israel often begin with the Balfour Declaration of 1917, but the efforts of certain Christian groups in England and the United States to create a Jewish state in Palestine actually date back centuries earlier and significantly predate Zionism’s official founding by Theodore Herzl.

Among the first advocates for the physical immigration of European Jews to Palestine were the Puritans, an offshoot of Christian Protestantism that emerged in the late 16th century and became influential in England and, later, in the American colonies. Influential Puritans devoted considerable interest to the role of Jews in eschatology, or end-times theology, with many — such as John Owen, a 17th-century theologian, member of parliament, and administrator at Oxford — believing that the physical return of Jews to Palestine was necessary for the fulfillment of end-time prophecy.

While the Puritan roots of what would later become known as Christian Zionism are often overlooked in modern accounts of where and why American evangelical support for Israel began, its adherents still clearly acknowledge its legacy. For instance, on Monday at the CUFI conference, Pompeo, himself a Christian Zionist known for his obsession with the end times, told the group the following:

“ Christian support in America for Zion — for a Jewish homeland — runs back to the early Puritan settlers, and it has endured for centuries. Indeed, our second president [John Adams], a couple years back, said… ‘I really wish the Jews again in Judea an independent nation.’

These Puritan beliefs, which persist today and have only grown in popularity, became more entrenched in England and colonial America with time, especially among the monied political class, and led to a variety of interpretations regarding exactly what the Bible says about the end times. Among the most influential was the development of Christian “dispensationalism,” an interpretive framework that uses the Bible to divide history into different periods of “dispensations” and sees the Bible’s prophetic references to “Israel” as signifying an ethnically Jewish nation established in Palestine...."

https://www.mintpressnews.com/untold-story-christian-zionists-power-united- states-israel/260532/

The promises made to Abraham in Genesis 15:13-14 are ultimately fulfilled in Christ and the Church, as I read it.

Note the GOOD promises were initially fulfilled by the Israelites:

Joshua's Charge to Leaders

Joshua 23:13know for sure that the LORD your God will no longer drive out these nations before you. Instead, they will become for you a snare and a trap, a scourge for your sides and thorns in your eyes, until you perish from this good land that the LORD your God has given you. 14Now behold, today I am going the way of all the earth, and you know with all your heart and soul that not one of the good promises the LORD your God made to you has failed. Everything was fulfilled for you; not one promise has failed. 15But just as every good thing the LORD your God promised you has come to pass, likewise the LORD will bring upon you the calamity He has threatened, until He has destroyed you from this good land He has given you.…

https://biblehub.com/joshua/23-14.htm

The Israelites were in Egypt 430 years to the day, but the most they were actually afflicted was 125-165 years. That prophecy remained to be fulfilled, in my opinion, by the church in America.

Galatians 3: 16Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. 17And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.

And it occurred to me a few days ago, that perhaps, in God' eye, the affliction began with the arrival of the negro slaves [the great slave traders being Jews]. I don't really know; only God knows, but I thought it all interesting when I reflected on Galatians 3:28-29:

26For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. 27For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. 29And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

https://biblehub.com/kjv/galatians/3.htm

Therefore,

"If African Christians did carry African Christianity with them to North America in 1619 and subsequent decades, Black Church Studies could reasonably support The 1619 Project in reframing the narrative of the origins of the United States." [ https://mccormick.edu/news/1619-and-arrival-african- christianity ] takes on even greater meaning.

It might also help explain the Perfect Storm of monetary collapse, evil being called good, gun confiscation, genocide against the saints, wars and rumors of wars, one world government, etc. etc. etc. coming at us at astonishing speed. The devil knows he doesn't have much time.

Genesis 15...14And also that nation, whom they shall serve, will I judge...

JEWISH INROADS into British Royalty

Remarks by The Hon. J. Thorkelson of Montana in the British House of Commons

(Wednesday, August 21, 1940)

JEWISH INROADS INTO BRITISH ROYALTY UP TO THE YEAR 1937

It has long been one of the Jewish methods in the attainment of world domination to penetrate into privileged circles where political power is greatest: Edward the First, by expelling the Jews in 1290, saved us from too early an application of this process in Britain, but the other countries were less fortunate and suffered the extinction of their nobility by Jewish women marrying into the Gentile aristocratic families...

https://biblebelievers.org.au/jewish.htm

The Truth About The So Called British "Royal Family": They are ALL Jews!

https://northerntruthseeker.blogspot.com/2012/12/the-truth-about-so-called- british-royal.html

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Jews have gone to great lengths to hide the face that the founding of America began with a cross and a charter to spread the gospel, in 1607:

The Jews of course, are responsible for the crucifixion of Christ. When Pontius Pilate asked them, "What should I do with this man?" The Jews cried, "CRUCIFY HIM!" ;)

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Jews have gone to great lengths to hide the face that the founding of America began with a cross and a charter to spread the gospel, in 1607:

The Jews of course, are responsible for the crucifixion of Christ. When Pontius Pilate asked them, "What should I do with this man?" The Jews cried, "CRUCIFY HIM!" ;)

That's right! But it's becoming against THEIR law to say that!

"...any criticism that has a history or potential of creating persecution, violence, harassment or emotional trauma, i.e. “intimidation” against Jews or Israel is anti-Semitic. For the Jewish ADL the most vehement expression of what constitutes such virulent and hurtful anti- Semitism is the New Testament’s frequent accusation that “the Jews” , i.e. Jewish Pharisaic leaders, along with a Jewish mob they incited, were responsible for convincing Pilate to have Jesus crucified. The New Testament’s “Christ-killers” charge, ADL contends, is the single greatest cause of anti Semitism and persecution of Jews for 2000 years. Such “lies”, ADL says, led to a climate of European anti Semitism resulting in the “Holocaust”.

If ADL remains the U.S. Department of Education’s advisor, lawgiver, and arbitrator of what is and is not anti-Semitism the results will be catastrophic. Such will encourage a trend, (as under ADL’s hate laws in Canada, and many European countries), to view “harsh” preaching from the New Testament in condemnation of the ancient Pharisee’s role behind Christ’s crucifixion as an “Anti-Semitic hate crime”. Eventually the New Testament could be banned as “hate literature”.

11. Alleging “Classic anti-Semitism”: the New Testament claim that Jews, including Pharisaic leaders, incited a Jewish mob, who pressured Pilate and Roman soldiers to crucify Jesus. This example is at the very top of ADL’s priorities for criminal indictment...."

http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/Anti%20Semitism%20Awareness%20Bill%209-24- 2019-v3.pdf

Global Anti-Semitism Review Act prohibits the following:

7. Blaming Jewish leaders and their followers for inciting the Roman crucifixion of Christ is anti-Semitic.

http://www.spingola.com/GlobalAntisemitism.html

But What Saith the Scripture?

The Soldiers Mock Jesus

John 19:10So Pilate said to Him, “Do You refuse to speak to me? Do You not know that I have authority to release You and authority to crucify You?” 11Jesus answered, “You would have no authority over Me if it were not given to you from above. Therefore the one who handed Me over to you is guilty of greater sin.” 12From then on, Pilate tried to release Him, but the Jews kept shouting, “If you release this man, you are no friend of Caesar. Anyone who declares himself a king is defying Caesar.”…

"...He that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin.--This cannot mean Judas, who is nowhere mentioned in this connection, and is excluded by the words "unto thee." Judas delivered our Lord to the Jews. It was the Sanhedrin, and especially Caiaphas, the high priest, who, professing to represent God on earth, had delivered up the Son of God, and had declared that by the law He ought to die. (Comp. John 11:49; John 18:14-28.)..."

https://biblehub.com/john/19-11.htm

…14It was the day of Preparation for the Passover, about the sixth hour. And Pilate said to the Jews, “Here is your King!” 15At this, they shouted, “Away with Him! Away with Him! Crucfy Him!” “Shall I crucify your King?” Pilate asked. “We have no king but Caesar,” replied the chief priests. 16Then Pilate handed Jesus over to be crucified, and the soldiers took Him away.…"

https://biblehub.com/john/19-15.htm

That's one of the reasons I contend that America, with her cross, and not Jew- land, is what is ultimately meant here:

Psalm 2:6 Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.

https://biblehub.com/psalms/2-6.htm

and here:

Zechariah 2:And said unto him, Run, speak to this young man, saying, Jerusalem shall be inhabited as towns without walls for the multitude of men and cattle therein:

https://biblehub.com/zechariah/2-4.htm

Zion's Salvation and New Name

Isaiah 62:3You will be a crown of glory in the hand of the LORD, a royal diadem in the palm of your God. 4No longer will you be called Forsaken, nor your land named Desolate; but you will be called Hephzibah, and your land Beulah; for the LORD will take delight in you, and your land will be His bride. 5For as a young man marries a young woman, so your sons will marry you; and as a groom rejoices over his bride, so your God will rejoice over you.…

https://biblehub.com/isaiah/62-4.htm

[see: Revelation 21:21 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

("coming down from God out of heaven" = figure of speech as I see it)

Hebrews 11:10
For he was looking forward to the city with foundations, whose architect and builder is God.

Hebrews 11:16
Instead, they were longing for a better country, a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for He has prepared a city for them.

("heavenly" See the Kingdom of God/Kingdom of Heaven in Matthew 13 and Luke 13 with its wheat and tares; sheep and goats; mustard seed, indicative of the church and leaven, indicative of the "leaven of the Pharisees", etc...sure looks like its on earth]

Hebrews 12:22
Instead, you have come to Mount Zion, to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem. You have come to myriads of angels

[the heavenly Jerusalem, that "comes down", bit by bit, to earth]

Revelation 3:12
The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of My God, and he will never again leave it. Upon him I will write the name of My God, and the name of the city of My God (the new Jerusalem that comes down out of heaven from My God), and My new name.

https://www.biblehub.com/revelation/21-2.htm

God's Covenant with David

2 Samuel 7:9I have been with you wherever you have gone, and I have cut off all your enemies from before you. Now I will make for you a name like the greatest in the land. 10And I will provide a place for My people Israel and will plant them so that they may dwell in a place of their own and be disturbed no more. No longer will the sons of wickedness oppress them as they did at the beginning 11and have done since the day I appointed judges over My people Israel. I will give you rest from all your enemies. The LORD declares to you that He Himself will establish a house for you.…

https://biblehub.com/2_samuel/7-10.htm

The Good Shepherd

Ezekiel 34:12As a shepherd looks for his scattered sheep when he is among the flock, so I will look for My flock. I will rescue them from all the places to which they were scattered on a day of clouds and darkness. 13I will bring them out from the peoples, gather them from the countries, and bring them into their own land. I will feed them on the mountains of Israel, in the ravines, and in all the settlements of the land. 14I will feed them in good pasture, and the lofty mountains of Israel will be their grazing land. There they will lie down in a good grazing land; they will feed in rich pasture on the mountains of Israel.…

The Good Shepherd

(Psalm 23:1-6; John 10:1-21)

Ezekiel 34:11For thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I, even I, will both search my sheep, and seek them out. 12As a shepherd seeketh out his flock in the day that he is among his sheep that are scattered; so will I seek out my sheep, and will deliver them out of all places where they have been scattered in the cloudy and dark day. 13And I will bring them out from the people, and gather them from the countries, and will bring them to their own land, and feed them upon the mountains of Israel by the rivers, and in all the inhabited places of the country. 14I will feed them in a good pasture, and upon the high mountains of Israel shall their fold be: there shall they lie in a good fold, and in a fat pasture shall they feed upon the mountains of Israel. 15I will feed my flock, and I will cause them to lie down, saith the Lord GOD. 16I will seek that which was lost, and bring again that which was driven away, and will bind up that which was broken, and will strengthen that which was sick: but I will destroy the fat and the strong; I will feed them with judgment.

https://biblehub.com/ezekiel/34-13.htm / https://biblehub.com/kjv/ezekiel/34.htm

Jesus the Good Shepherd

(Psalm 23:1-6; Ezekiel 34:11-24)

1Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. 2But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. 3To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out. 4And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice. 5And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers. 6This parable spake Jesus unto them: but they understood not what things they were which he spake unto them.

7Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep. 8All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them. 9I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture. 10The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

11I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep. 12But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep. 13The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep. 14I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine. 15As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. 16And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. 17Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. 18No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.

19There was a division therefore again among the Jews for these sayings. 20And many of them said, He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye him? 21Others said, These are not the words of him that hath a devil. Can a devil open the eyes of the blind?

The Unbelief of the Jews

22And it was at Jerusalem the feast of the dedication, and it was winter. 23And Jesus walked in the temple in Solomon's porch. 24Then came the Jews round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly. 25Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me. 26But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. 27My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. 30I and my Father are one.

31Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. 32Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? 33The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. 34Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? 35If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; 36Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? 37If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. 38But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him. 39Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand,

Many across the Jordan Believe

40And went away again beyond Jordan into the place where John at first baptized; and there he abode. 41And many resorted unto him, and said, John did no miracle: but all things that John spake of this man were true. 42And many believed on him there.

https://biblehub.com/kjv/john/10.htm

Remember the battle cry of early America: "NO KING BUT JESUS!"

This same battle has been raging for 2,000 years!!!

The Apostles Before the Council

…28“We gave you strict orders not to teach in this name,” he said. “Yet you have filled Jerusalem with your teaching and are determined to make us responsible for this man’s blood.” 29But Peter and the other apostles replied, “We must obey God rather than men. 30The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom you had killed by hanging Him on a tree.…

https://biblehub.com/acts/5-29.htm

The Jews could be a part of the Kingdom of God/Kingdom of Heaven. All they have to do is repent and accept Jesus as Lord and Savior.

Isaiah 53:10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.

https://www.biblehub.com/isaiah/53-10.htm

Sons Through Faith in Christ

Galatians 3:28There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed and heirs according to the promise.

https://biblehub.com/galatians/3-29.htm

see:

http://whoisisrael.org/seed-vs-descendants/

[I posted some NIV or other translations in here because it was easier. NIV and others however, change "seed" to "descendants or offspring", which is very deceptive. I would normally post KJV, so just be aware.]

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