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Title: 200 Proofs Earth is Not a Spinning Ball
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URL Source: https://youtu.be/-Ax_YpQsy88
Published: Dec 29, 2019
Author: Eric Dubay
Post Date: 2019-12-29 19:57:38 by wudidiz
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Views: 18876
Comments: 351

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#1. To: All (#0)
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"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers" ~ Thomas Pynchon Gravity's Rainbow

wudidiz posted on 2019-12-29 21:13:59 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#2. To: wudidiz (#1)
Have not seen you around in a long time.

Cynicom posted on 2019-12-29 21:21:36 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#3. To: wudidiz (#0)
200 Proofs Earth is Not a Spinning Ball

They are not "proofs". They are arguments, and all I've considered are, to various degrees, easily dismissed.

Pinguinite posted on 2019-12-29 21:49:43 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#4. To: wudidiz (#0)

christianobserver.net/the-globe-earth-lie/
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt posted on 2019-12-30 7:34:42 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#5. To: wudidiz (#0)
It is said that the earth spins at 1000 MPH in order for one revolution to occur each day (as the earth is said to be 25,000 miles in circumference. Then it is also said that the earth (solar system) travels through the universe at 60,000 mph. I am wondering "where is the breeze" ?
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The best thing about old age is that it doesn't last forever.
noone222 posted on 2019-12-30 7:55:43 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#6. To: wudidiz (#0)
christianobserver.net/flat-earth/
I haven't been able to look at all these yet.
I want flat earth to be true if only because they have lied about everything else.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt posted on 2019-12-30 9:00:27 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#7. To: noone222 (#5)
I am wondering "where is the breeze" ?

Good question.
The rotation speed at the poles is zero but there is always a wind factor.
Metoreolgy explains the answer.

Cynicom posted on 2019-12-30 9:08:37 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#8. To: Cynicom (#2)
I thought that he'd fallen off the edge.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod posted on 2019-12-30 10:26:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#9. To: Lod (#8)
I thought that he'd fallen off the edge.

hahahahahaha !
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The best thing about old age is that it doesn't last forever.
noone222 posted on 2019-12-30 10:43:07 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#10. To: noone222 (#5)
Gee whiz, I wonder why people aren't crushed to death when they travel 500 mph in jets, or even at 70 mph in cars.
BTW, did you know there's no air in space?
I guess there's no such thing as night and day either, and we're all on the same time across the earth. Other continents don't exist, it's all CGI.
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker posted on 2019-12-30 14:46:16 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#11. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#6)
Oh no, don't tell me you're another deluded one. I thought you were intelligent.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker posted on 2019-12-30 14:47:11 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#12. To: wudidiz (#0)
Nice to see you wud, too bad you're still wrapped up in your delusions.
Do you still think we're riding on the back of a huge turtle, or is in an elephant?
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker posted on 2019-12-30 14:48:15 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#13. To: Lod (#8)
I thought that he'd fallen off the edge.

:) We need laugh emojis here!
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker posted on 2019-12-30 14:49:26 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#14. To: Cynicom, noone222 (#7)
The rotation speed at the poles is zero but there is always a wind factor.
Metoreolgy explains the answer.

There is primarily the matter of inertia. An object will stay in motion unless acted upon by an external force. Everything on earth stays at the same relative motion unless acted upon by an external force, including gravity which pulls everything towards the center of the planet.
It's why and how satellites stay in orbit, they're falling towards earth at the same rate they travel horizontally.
As far as the air, it travels at the same rate as the rest of the planet.
Now if the earth were to STOP rotating all of a sudden, everything would go flying at about 1000 mph.
You see, the only time motion is noticeable is when there is acceleration or deceleration, such as in a car. A person in a car traveling smoothly at 70 mph will be able to sit in their seat comfortably, whereas if that car hits a tree he'll definitely go flying out the windshield due to the instant deceleration.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker posted on 2019-12-30 15:02:23 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#15. To: Pinguinite (#3)
They are not "proofs". They are arguments, and all I've considered are, to various degrees, easily dismissed.

This is a religion for these people. They don't need proof of anything.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker posted on 2019-12-30 15:03:25 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#16. To: FormerLurker (#14)
There is primarily the matter of inertia. An object will stay in motion unless acted upon by an external force. Everything on earth stays at the same relative motion unless acted upon by an external force, including gravity which pulls everything towards the center of the planet.

LOL, why does the bowl start spinning when I run the electric mixer to make a cake? I'm not touching the bowl.
“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs
Dakmar posted on 2019-12-30 15:10:24 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#17. To: Dakmar (#16)
Because your batter is spinning inside the bowl, and due to friction the bowl starts to spin in the same direction. It's the force of the batter spinning and the friction between the batter and the bowl.
Now if you don't turn the motor on, it won't spin, right?
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker posted on 2019-12-30 15:15:28 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#18. To: FormerLurker (#17)
But the batter is a liquid, there is no friction. :)
“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs
Dakmar posted on 2019-12-30 15:30:29 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#19. To: FormerLurker (#15)
I think my favorite argument against flat earth is the time it takes to fly form Chile to New Zealand. If the earth is flat, these 2 places are on the opposite side of the flat earth disk which would be an enormous distance, and the conventional airline flight time of about 13 hours would mean the plane has to fly at about Mach 2. Of course commercial airliners are all subsonic.
With this counter argument, there's no blaming NASA for lying or scrutinizing pictures that may have been CGI enhanced. Flight info is verifiable on the net and average people fly that route daily. There is no flat earth explanation for it.

Pinguinite posted on 2019-12-30 16:15:01 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#20. To: FormerLurker (#11)
Ha! guess I fooled you :)
I haven't studied it enough. Actually, hardly at all. Besides, I really have a pea brain. I am leaning toward it though, simply because they have lied about everything else. When I've had a chance to study it more, I'll get back to you. Or maybe not. Looks like we're headed to war. Who knows. I may not get out alive.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt posted on 2019-12-30 16:33:33 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#21. To: Dakmar (#18)
But the batter is a liquid, there is no friction. :)

If the batter is thicker than water there is friction. ;)
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
BTP Holdings posted on 2019-12-30 16:37:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#22. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#20)
I may not get out alive.

And if I cannot get away from these incompetent buffoons who call themselves doctors I will definitely not get out alive. :-/
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
BTP Holdings posted on 2019-12-30 16:40:10 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#23. To: BTP Holdings (#22)
hmmm? what's going on?
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt posted on 2019-12-30 17:18:24 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#24. To: BTP Holdings (#21)
But the batter is a liquid, there is no friction. :)
If the batter is thicker than water there is friction. ;)

Water creates friction too. Ever been swimming?
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

Bill D Berger posted on 2019-12-30 21:30:47 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#25. To: wudidiz (#0)
+1000
Nice post.

Liberator posted on 2019-12-31 11:09:32 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#26. To: Pinguinite, wudidiz, ALL (#3) (Edited)
They are not "proofs". They are arguments, and all I've considered are, to various degrees, easily dismissed.

Actually, what's advance here is more like "evidences."
...All I've considered are, to various degrees, easily dismissed.

Not only are NONE are "easily dismissed," but to various degrees IMPOSSIBLE to dismiss. Period. (Please let go of your single objection regarding the flight from Chile to NZ and focus instead on some OTHER points/objections.)
Yes, we've indeed belabored this subject ad nauseum, but with "200 Proofs" to consider debunking, I seriously doubt you or most folks are going to watch and consider all 200 proofs of this vid for one and a half hours (if you do, chances are you will seriously question this realm.)
And then there are the countless YT vids to seriously consider that fully expose and destroy the lies while illuminating the truth. Many are extremely convincing.
Either one is compelled to learn the truth on the matter or finds it irrelevant or "settled science" by the very same "Science Communitah," Academia, and Political Institutions that blatantly lie about Gender, Climate Change, Vaccines, Chemtrails, Illuminati/Luciferians/Satanists, Tesla, Natural Healing, NASA hoaxing, Politics, "Education," etc, etc.

FWIW...
The same "Modern" astronomy, cosmology, archaeology, and the "laws of sciences" which we've all been taught/indoctrinated in public schools as "gospel-science" have actually been nothing but...HYPOTHESES, which have been PURPOSELY WRONG, SLOPPY, and SHAM.
Ping, I've recently read 5 books on the subject from contemporaries of Darwin and Einstein published between 1865-1922; basically contemporaries of all those who steamrolled their respective hypotheses of "Gravity" (Newton), Evolution (Darwin), Heliocentrism (Copernicus), Relativity (Einstein), Nebularism, aka "Sphere-ism" (Kant).
Guess what? These foundations of "modern science" wind up as unproveable theoretical BS back then; And still unprovable theory NOW. That means "they've"knowingly been deceiving the world with layers of lies.
For those like you who may eschew scriptural support on the subject of "Flat" or Plane Earthly realm, one particular book addresses all of the above, based only examining actual observable science:
'Kings Dethroned'
Author: Gerrard Hickson
It is devastatingly effective and convincing.
https://www.amazon.com/Kings-Dethroned-History-Evolution-Astronomy/dp/1407691384
Einstein's "Relativism" is especially interesting in that his theory (yes, even HE admitted it could NOT be proven) was cooked up specifically to disprove the Michelson-Morley experiment which proved the earth is NOT SPINNING (look it up.)
So...If the earth is not actually spinning, it destroys all the other theories on sphere-earth, geocentricism, gravity, a "Light Years" universe etal.
Again -- THE definitive RECOMMENDED BOOK ON THIS ENTIRE SUBJECT:
'Kings Dethroned'
Author: Gerrard Hickson
Other highly recommended books (written and published back when knowledge wasn't censored or controlled by the PTB). To Believers: These book WILL ALSO consider Biblical/Divine authority and reference as to the shape and description of our Eealm and Firmament:
Zetetic Astronomy -- Earth is Not a Globe
Samuel Birley Rowbotham
Terra Firma: the Earth Not a Planet, Proved from Scripture, Reason, and Fact
David Wardlaw Scott
The Greatest Lie on Earth: Proof That Our World Is Not a Moving Globe
Edward Hendrie
I found it amazing that Science and scientists were already so well in tune and familiar with and to natural earthly "laws" and our realm. Moreover -- unbeknownst to us today -- at the time (1880-1920) a very large battle waged over ALL these theories and whether or not they should be considered true and "Science." (The PTB at the time won that battle, obviously.) Einstein's sham 'Theory of Relativity' save the day for Fake Science.
***FINAL NOTE
The 'Flat Earth Society' is CONTROLLED OPPOSITION, so dismiss it fully.

Liberator posted on 2019-12-31 12:07:46 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#27. To: Pinguinite (#19)
...there's no blaming NASA for lying or scrutinizing pictures that may have been CGI enhanced.

Make absolutely no sense.
WHY would NASA need CGI help when they've supposedly traveled back and forth to the moon FIVE times AND allegedly sent up a bazillion "satellites" with which they could/should/would ave taken a gazillion CLEAR, PRECISE PHOTOS?
Moreover, why couldn't the alleged "Hubbell" telescope have turned toward Earth AND the Moon and take crystal clean photos of both from every angle possible??

Liberator posted on 2019-12-31 12:12:34 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#28. To: Liberator (#26)
Actually, what's advance here is more like "evidences."

That's fine, as long as it's understood that evidence is not proof. Finding a footprint of a unique shoe belonging to someone is evidence the person was there, but not proof.

Not only are NONE are "easily dismissed," but to various degrees IMPOSSIBLE to dismiss. Period. (Please let go of your single objection regarding the flight from Chile to NZ and focus instead on some OTHER points/objections.)

I'll take the first one in the video: The horizon always appears flat regardless of altitude. This is a subjective, non-quantifiable assertion. Counter arguments say curvature IS observable at airline altitude provided weather conditions allow sufficient view. Maybe it is not easy to dismiss but if so, it's because of the subjective nature of the "proof", which in this case I wouldn't even call evidence. It's an argument only, and easily dismissed as a flat earth evidence because it is a subjective claim.
When a video titled "200 proofs" starts off with an argument that is of such low grade subjectiveness, it really lowers one's expectations as to the other 199, and sitting through them tries one's patience.
Any other of the 200 that are similarly subjective can be easily dismissed for the same reason, but if you want, pick out 2 or 3 you think are the most compelling and I'll address them.

(Please let go of your single objection regarding the flight from Chile to NZ and focus instead on some OTHER points/objections.)

Well, I like that one in part because it's not in the least subjective. It's completely 100% quantifiable and doesn't rely on anything NASA says or does or has done. It does not rely on any pictures, videos that may have been edited or allegedly edited, or disputed observations or witnesses that may or may not be telling the truth. There are no models of the sun and moon moving around in circles over a flat earth to maybe explain it. The flat earth argument needs to counter this by saying the flights are either fake, airlines are capable of > 2x the speed of sound, or some space worm hole exists that air traffic flies through en route. I see it as "checkmate" evidence against flat earth.
Sorry, but I don't have time or patience to acquire & read whole books on an idea that doesn't even get to first base as there are no shortage of ideas that fail to do that. Let me see it get to first or second base.

Pinguinite posted on 2019-12-31 15:27:45 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#29. To: Pinguinite (#28)
Here on earth, two pillars of Verazano bridge are perpendicular.
Two pillars are inch and half further apart at top than base's.
Curvature of earth measured.

Cynicom posted on 2019-12-31 15:38:29 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#30. To: Pinguinite (#28)
One can clearly see the curvature of the Earth looking out across Lake Michigan from the Sears Tower (or whatever it's called these days). I know, I have done it.
“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs
Dakmar posted on 2019-12-31 15:45:13 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#31. To: Cynicom (#29)
Here on earth, two pillars of Verazano bridge are perpendicular.

Two pillars are inch and half further apart at top than base's.

Curvature of earth measured.

I trust the calculations, but it doesn't work well as a counter to flat earth. Reason: Have you verified this difference? Do you know anyone who has? Can those claims be trusted? Maybe the difference is due to construction anomalies and not earth curvature? E.g. are these pillars the same width at the bottom as they are at the top? Are they perfectly vertical? Lots of room for counter arguments.

Pinguinite posted on 2019-12-31 15:53:34 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#32. To: Pinguinite (#31)
Maybe the difference is due to construction anomalies and not earth curvature? E.g. are these pillars the same width at the bottom as they are at the top? Are they perfectly vertical?

I would trust they had good Engineers who knew what they were doing.
Remember too that they told Christopher Columbus if he sailed west he would fall off the end of the Earth. No such thing happened. But when they sited land and stepped foot on it, they called it San Salvadore. We know exactly where that island is in the Caribbean today. ;)
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
BTP Holdings posted on 2019-12-31 17:31:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#33. To: BTP Holdings, Pingunite, All (#32)
I trust the calculations, but it doesn't work well as a counter to flat earth. Reason: Have you verified this difference? Do you know anyone who has? Can those claims be trusted? Maybe the difference is due to construction anomalies and not earth curvature? E.g. are these pillars the same width at the bottom as they are at the top? Are they perfectly vertical? Lots of room for counter arguments.

I trust Ping is funning us.
Thousands of years ago, the builders of the Great Pyramids were well aware of earth curvature. Something the engineers that built the Verazano bridge drew on their ORIGINAL plans. The inch or two was present AT CONCEPT.

Cynicom posted on 2019-12-31 18:33:59 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#34. To: Cynicom (#33)
I trust Ping is funning us.

Not at all. If a flat earther claimed the columns of this bridge were, in fact, parallel thus proving the earth is flat, all the points I raised could/would be claimed to rebut the claim. Even if the columns were perfectly parallel, none of us round-earthers would accept it as proof the earth is flat, so I would expect flat earthers to similarly discount claims about these columns NOT being parallel as evidence the earth is round.
I've no doubt earth curvature was taken into account by the bridge designers when drawing up the plans. Longer bridges in the world have done the same. But it doesn't mean a 1.5 inch margin of error for construction of a bridge that size would be outside acceptable tolerances. I don't know. For all we know, considering the foundation, the columns could be leaning slightly one way or the other by that tiny amount.
If you want to give a flat-earther something they have a hard time challenging, you have to do better than presenting this bridge as evidence.

Pinguinite posted on 2019-12-31 19:02:39 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#35. To: Pinguinite, BTP holdings (#34)
Ping...
The inch and a half was on the drawing boards BEFORE THE BRIDGE WAS BUILT.
The ancients knew it before they laid the foundations for their pyramids.Without looking how did they "level" for the foundation over such an expanse?

Cynicom posted on 2019-12-31 19:15:19 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#36. To: Pinguinite (#34)
If you want to give a flat-earther something they have a hard time challenging, you have to do better than presenting this bridge as evidence.

Well said.
You would have to do much better than that, because anyone suffering from the flat-earthism psychosis is unlikely to be susceptible to logic, facts, and reason.

StraitGate posted on 2019-12-31 20:35:15 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#37. To: Cynicom (#35)
The inch and a half was on the drawing boards BEFORE THE BRIDGE WAS BUILT.

Cyni... I believe you. But if you want to debate and argue effectively, you have to present points that won't be subject to challenge by the person you're debating. If a flat-earther says "prove it" in response to the above, will you be able to? No.

The ancients knew it before they laid the foundations for their pyramids.

Prove it.

Without looking how did they "level" for the foundation over such an expanse?

To find out what's level over a large distance, they could have easily just dug a long trench and filled it with water. Water not flowing will reveal the exact same altitude on both ends.
But the point is not that you're right. The point is being able to **defend** being right. Presenting points you cannot defend and substantiate is worthless in a debate, even if the points are true.

Pinguinite posted on 2019-12-31 22:16:55 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#38. To: Pinguinite, Cynicom. StraitGate, BTP Holdings, Liberator, Bill D Berger, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, FormerLurker, noone222, Lod, wudidiz (#37)

Power lines over Lake Pontchartrain elegantly demonstrate the curvature of Earth
“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs
Dakmar posted on 2019-12-31 22:38:50 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#39. To: Pinguinite (#37)
Prove what?

Cynicom posted on 2020-01-01 1:15:36 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#40. To: Dakmar (#38)
Ancients perhaps were more observant and able to think than some.
Very young, stood on high cliff on a small island, an adjacent island was visible. Down on the beach, the other island was gone. Two things were possible, the other island had sunk in the ocean, OR the earth WAS ROUND.
Back on the cliff, damned island was back.

Cynicom posted on 2020-01-01 1:25:17 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

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