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Title: 200 Proofs Earth is Not a Spinning Ball
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URL Source: https://youtu.be/-Ax_YpQsy88
Published: Dec 29, 2019
Author: Eric Dubay
Post Date: 2019-12-29 19:57:38 by wudidiz
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Views: 27394
Comments: 351

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wudidiz  posted on  2019-12-29   21:13:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: wudidiz (#1) (Edited)

I've noted that since 2016 you have been trying to enlighten your fellow forum members with truth about our realm. I tip my cap to you! Well done. +1000

You were ahead of your time. And yes, once you seek and see the Truth, there is no returning. I also noted that The Usual Suspects were always the first to ridicule you as you were simply presenting Truth. And were here on THIS thread. Shame on them.

Some people -- no matter how intelligent -- do not and will not ever admit that they have been bamboozled their entire lives with THE Mother of ALL Lies, backed up by Masonic/Talmudic lies regarding Heliocentrism, Gravity, Earth Movement, Evolution, and of course, Einstein's phony theory of "Relativity." There is no longer any excuse to ignore Truth.

The Bible is the very first "Flat Earth" book; Flat Earth is proven via observation, by common sense, by REAL science.

Liberator  posted on  2020-01-04   9:51:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Liberator (#75)

What causes a solar or lunar eclipse? Are there elves in the sky that move a huge disk in front of the sun and moon every so often to play games with people on earth?

What causes the tides? Is it the devil?

Why is air thinner at higher altitudes? The devil?

Why can we see planets rotate and revolve around the sun using telescopes, and accurately plot their positions using math and physics?

There are so MANY things flat earthers can't explain, those are just a tiny fraction of them.

FormerLurker  posted on  2020-01-08   14:02:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: FormerLurker (#100) (Edited)

God knows you've tried...

In *your* mind, you've ALL the answers. That's BE-CAUSE...you've/we've all been taught or rather indoctrinated with the very same history, science, math, and especially so-called "TRUTH" in public school, on TV, in Movies, in the Mainstream Media. AND... we know of course THEY wouldn't lie to you or me or all of us. OR WOULD THEY?

Everyone has an agenda. Everyone lies -- especially those in power. Worst than that -- these PTB worship power & control at ANY expense. If you agree, this mean higher knowledge & true history must necessarily be hidden and reserved for those who control the levers and systems of this realm. It is indeed being proven -- that is IF one seeks it.

On the otherhand, if you are perfectly content with your current status quo and state of awareness and "truth" (as contemporary society's high priests of institutional "knowledge" present it), then by all means continue to embrace it.

However, by wrapping yourself around your Orwellian quote regarding, "Those who control the past control the future" as well as those who "control the present control the past," -- and truly believe it as your own personal philosophy -- they are two contradictory positions at best, and oblivious at worse.

One can NOT be an Orwellian disciple AND still embrace all we are told by the PTB is THE "TRUTH!"

Liberator  posted on  2020-01-09   14:11:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: Liberator (#104)

In *your* mind, you've ALL the answers. That's BE-CAUSE...you've/we've all been taught or rather indoctrinated with the very same history, science, math, and especially so-called "TRUTH" in public school, on TV, in Movies, in the Mainstream Media. AND... we know of course THEY wouldn't lie to you or me or all of us. OR WOULD THEY?

Everyone has an agenda. Everyone lies --

I'm not sure if you're really the scatter brained anti-science whacko you pretend to be here, or if you're a troll that purposely acts like a nutjob in order to discredit everything else you say, as well as those who agree with you on other topics via guilt by association.

I see you appear rational and well-versed on most other topics, so I have to assume the latter.

Nobody with a working brain cell can be the fervent religious zealot you appear to be on this topic.

And of course, if anything you claim here were true, there would be no 4um as computers wouldn't exist, since ALL science in your mind is fake.

If it weren't for the advanced understanding of math and physics, not only would semiconductors not exist, in fact, we'd be at 15th century level. You would still be riding horses instead of driving in cars.

In fact, the United States wouldn't exist since nobody would have been able to find their way here across the Atlantic Ocean, and even if they accidently did, they'd never be able to get here using known and proven navigation techniques.

As far as modern technology, the very fact most if not all cellphones have GPS technology disproves the notion of a flat earth, since the phone will give you your precise location no matter where you are on the planet, even if the nearest cell tower is 1000 miles or more out of range, since GPS uses SATELLITES.

Since I can't believe you really ARE that stupid, what IS your agenda here on 4um? Apparently you admit that YOU lie and have an agenda, as you include yourself in the phrase, "everybody lies".

There's no reason for scientists to lie about proven and well understood concepts know for hundreds of years. You apparently have a reason to do so however.

FormerLurker  posted on  2020-01-10   13:34:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: FormerLurker (#119)

I'm not sure if you're really the scatter brained anti-science whacko you pretend to be here, or if you're a troll that purposely acts like a nutjob in order to discredit everything else you say, as well as those who agree with you on other topics via guilt by association.

I see you appear rational and well-versed on most other topics, so I have to assume the latter.

That's the way I have him figured.

StraitGate  posted on  2020-01-10   14:04:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: StraitGate (#120)

The Flat Earthers Are Being Sent Into Every Real Truth Movement To Disrupt And Destroy Them

FormerLurker  posted on  2020-01-10   18:59:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: FormerLurker (#121)

Whoa, Cowboy.

You may want to ratchet down your 'tude a bit. It's only a forum. Nobody's gonna hurt you.

Liberator  posted on  2020-01-11   10:47:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: Liberator (#124)

Whoa, Cowboy.

You may want to ratchet down your 'tude a bit. It's only a forum. Nobody's gonna hurt you.

I was merely responding to your comments and presenting my observations.

Who was talking about anybody hurting someone?

FormerLurker  posted on  2020-01-12   15:47:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: FormerLurker (#128)

I was merely responding to your comments and presenting my observations.

Chyeah, right.

Lol -- Is that why you posted and disseminated someone's else's propagandist lies at Post #121? (The Flat Earthers Are Being Sent Into Every Real Truth Movement To Disrupt And Destroy Them)

You have been posting several Red Herrings and Strawmen arguments of phantom questions and issues. Lame. SO VERY lame.

And somehow you actually expect me to take you seriously? Naah. No thanks.

Even if I don't agree with someone, I still respect an honest, sincere debate. You're just not capable.

I will not ever respect an obvious troll with an agenda, a bleating Gatekeeper of Institutional Lies, a shill of/for Disinfo. Truth isn't even on your radar.

Liberator  posted on  2020-01-13   10:43:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: Liberator (#137)

Lol -- Is that why you posted and disseminated someone's else's propagandist lies at Post #121? (The Flat Earthers Are Being Sent Into Every Real Truth Movement To Disrupt And Destroy Them)

Many such pages can be found on the Internet. Your cult came into existence about the time there was significant interest in the 9/11 truth movement. People such as yourself have infiltrated those groups and discredited everything they have in the way of facts by giving the impression they all support your fantasies, since most rational people view flat earth people as absolutely insane.

will not ever respect an obvious troll with an agenda, a bleating Gatekeeper of Institutional Lies, a shill of/for Disinfo. Truth isn't even on your radar.

Just as all shills and trolls, you accuse others of what you are yourself guilty of.

If you were just batshit crazy I'd either just avoid you or try to nicely guide you to the real world, if you were agreeable to coming back to reality.

Funny thing is I used to respect you and never thought you would stoop to what you're currently doing. I might not have always agreed with you but tried to debate the facts calmly and respectfully.

However, it's clear that you're not just a whacked out nutcase, you're lucid and rational on other topics.

Thus I have to deduce one of the following possibilities is true;

  1. You're scientifically and mathematically illiterate, never having learnt topics beyond 3rd grade subject matter.
  2. You're a religious zealot who believes the English words of the Bible literally, and the interpretations of those words by cult like figures who have a mindset of those who burnt down the Library of Alexandria, and would have put Galileo and Copernicus to death
  3. You KNOW what your peddling is absolute bullshit, and are deliberately posting this nonsense to see how many fish you can reel in

In regards to possibility 1, I see that as unlikely in this day and age, especially given that you appear literate in the English language. Perhaps you were home schooled by those who were in a cult?

Which leads to possibility 2. Only the blind belief in a literal interpretation of the bible could lead one to reject scientific, historical, and logical facts that are VERY easily seen and proven. Are you truly in a cult? These would be the sort of folks that thought if God meant for men to fly, he would have given them wings.

Then there's possibility 3. Given how you feign honesty and intelligence well beyond us mere humans, whereas ALL scientists and astronomers for the past 500 years have been LYING as to the nature of our solar system and the planet earth, and ALL explorers and navigators have lied to us and are lying still in regards to global navigation, I'd say you fit this possibility most strongly.

You will never admit that this whacky flat earth belief could very easily be proven by anyone with their own sea faring vessel or long range aircraft, simply by going where you think the edge is and taking some pictures.

I've read that you folks think NASA is there guarding it.. LOL

Who guarded it before the 1960's???

FormerLurker  posted on  2020-01-16   19:21:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#170. To: FormerLurker (#155)

"Blah-blah...yada-yada...Zealot...cult..troll...wacky...blah-blah"

(I hope I quoted you correctly.)

You. Haven't. A. D*mn. Clue.

Using assumptions of assumption of assumptions, and unproven hypothesis upon unproven hypothesis is NOT "Science."

Let me help unravel the ACTUAL Reality a bit more:

PTB-Chosen "science" shills Bill Nye and Neil de Grasse Tyson have ZERO credibility. NASA/Hollywood is a proven production and fraud. The USA is a Corporation. G00gle/Silicon Valley = See Eye A. The alleged 13.7 billion year "Big Bang" and "LIGHT YEARS" and "OUTER-SPACE" is...SCIENCE-FICTION.

Liberator  posted on  2020-01-17   10:16:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#182. To: Liberator (#170)

Sure, neither space or gravity exist, but you can't explain why objects fall to the ground when dropped.

You think every major country on earth is lying about putting satellites up in space, the Chinese, the Russians, Europe, and of course the US.

The earth is a big pizza zapped into existence out of nothing, and is the only pizza in the universe. Everything else is CGI.

Yes, you are one smart cookie. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As far as Bill Nyes, he's not a scientist he's an entertainer.

Go to MIT sometime and peddle your theories there, see how many people you can convert..

LOL!

FormerLurker  posted on  2020-01-17   16:53:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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