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Title: 200 Proofs Earth is Not a Spinning Ball
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URL Source: https://youtu.be/-Ax_YpQsy88
Published: Dec 29, 2019
Author: Eric Dubay
Post Date: 2019-12-29 19:57:38 by wudidiz
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#3. To: wudidiz (#0)
They are not "proofs". They are arguments, and all I've considered are, to various degrees, easily dismissed.
Actually, what's advance here is more like "evidences." ...All I've considered are, to various degrees, easily dismissed. Not only are NONE are "easily dismissed," but to various degrees IMPOSSIBLE to dismiss. Period. (Please let go of your single objection regarding the flight from Chile to NZ and focus instead on some OTHER points/objections.) Yes, we've indeed belabored this subject ad nauseum, but with "200 Proofs" to consider debunking, I seriously doubt you or most folks are going to watch and consider all 200 proofs of this vid for one and a half hours (if you do, chances are you will seriously question this realm.) And then there are the countless YT vids to seriously consider that fully expose and destroy the lies while illuminating the truth. Many are extremely convincing. Either one is compelled to learn the truth on the matter or finds it irrelevant or "settled science" by the very same "Science Communitah," Academia, and Political Institutions that blatantly lie about Gender, Climate Change, Vaccines, Chemtrails, Illuminati/Luciferians/Satanists, Tesla, Natural Healing, NASA hoaxing, Politics, "Education," etc, etc. FWIW... The same "Modern" astronomy, cosmology, archaeology, and the "laws of sciences" which we've all been taught/indoctrinated in public schools as "gospel-science" have actually been nothing but...HYPOTHESES, which have been PURPOSELY WRONG, SLOPPY, and SHAM. Ping, I've recently read 5 books on the subject from contemporaries of Darwin and Einstein published between 1865-1922; basically contemporaries of all those who steamrolled their respective hypotheses of "Gravity" (Newton), Evolution (Darwin), Heliocentrism (Copernicus), Relativity (Einstein), Nebularism, aka "Sphere-ism" (Kant). Guess what? These foundations of "modern science" wind up as unproveable theoretical BS back then; And still unprovable theory NOW. That means "they've"knowingly been deceiving the world with layers of lies. For those like you who may eschew scriptural support on the subject of "Flat" or Plane Earthly realm, one particular book addresses all of the above, based only examining actual observable science: 'Kings Dethroned' Author: Gerrard Hickson https://www.amazon.com/Kings-Dethroned-History-Evolution-Astronomy/dp/1407691384 Einstein's "Relativism" is especially interesting in that his theory (yes, even HE admitted it could NOT be proven) was cooked up specifically to disprove the Michelson-Morley experiment which proved the earth is NOT SPINNING (look it up.) So...If the earth is not actually spinning, it destroys all the other theories on sphere-earth, geocentricism, gravity, a "Light Years" universe etal. Again -- THE definitive RECOMMENDED BOOK ON THIS ENTIRE SUBJECT: 'Kings Dethroned' Author: Gerrard Hickson Other highly recommended books (written and published back when knowledge wasn't censored or controlled by the PTB). To Believers: These book WILL ALSO consider Biblical/Divine authority and reference as to the shape and description of our Eealm and Firmament: Zetetic Astronomy -- Earth is Not a Globe Samuel Birley Rowbotham Terra Firma: the Earth Not a Planet, Proved from Scripture, Reason, and Fact David Wardlaw Scott The Greatest Lie on Earth: Proof That Our World Is Not a Moving Globe Edward Hendrie I found it amazing that Science and scientists were already so well in tune and familiar with and to natural earthly "laws" and our realm. Moreover -- unbeknownst to us today -- at the time (1880-1920) a very large battle waged over ALL these theories and whether or not they should be considered true and "Science." (The PTB at the time won that battle, obviously.) Einstein's sham 'Theory of Relativity' save the day for Fake Science. ***FINAL NOTE The 'Flat Earth Society' is CONTROLLED OPPOSITION, so dismiss it fully.
That's fine, as long as it's understood that evidence is not proof. Finding a footprint of a unique shoe belonging to someone is evidence the person was there, but not proof. I'll take the first one in the video: The horizon always appears flat regardless of altitude. This is a subjective, non-quantifiable assertion. Counter arguments say curvature IS observable at airline altitude provided weather conditions allow sufficient view. Maybe it is not easy to dismiss but if so, it's because of the subjective nature of the "proof", which in this case I wouldn't even call evidence. It's an argument only, and easily dismissed as a flat earth evidence because it is a subjective claim. When a video titled "200 proofs" starts off with an argument that is of such low grade subjectiveness, it really lowers one's expectations as to the other 199, and sitting through them tries one's patience. Any other of the 200 that are similarly subjective can be easily dismissed for the same reason, but if you want, pick out 2 or 3 you think are the most compelling and I'll address them. Well, I like that one in part because it's not in the least subjective. It's completely 100% quantifiable and doesn't rely on anything NASA says or does or has done. It does not rely on any pictures, videos that may have been edited or allegedly edited, or disputed observations or witnesses that may or may not be telling the truth. There are no models of the sun and moon moving around in circles over a flat earth to maybe explain it. The flat earth argument needs to counter this by saying the flights are either fake, airlines are capable of > 2x the speed of sound, or some space worm hole exists that air traffic flies through en route. I see it as "checkmate" evidence against flat earth. Sorry, but I don't have time or patience to acquire & read whole books on an idea that doesn't even get to first base as there are no shortage of ideas that fail to do that. Let me see it get to first or second base.
That is why I referenced 200 'Proofs' as "Evidences" instead. ;-) I'll take the first one in the video: The horizon always appears flat regardless of altitude. This is a subjective, non-quantifiable assertion. Counter arguments say curvature IS observable at airline altitude provided weather conditions allow sufficient view. I have been there, done that...while living near the ocean most of my life... ARE perceptions "quantitative"?? Probably. Many observations or perceptions wind up as "subjective." However, with the objective preponderance of evidence, the weight of "proof" becomes more decisive. And that is exactly what Eric Dubay accomplishes here (add the weight of others, and the truth of our realm become even more obvious.) All that said, yes, true. There are "Counter-arguments" that will indeed claim curvature. Might this be a matter of the vast power of suggestion to any degree? The ocean has always looked level to me, tapering into a very slight curve at either end of both directions at the far left and far right of the horizon. In retrospect, it was THAT weak supposed observation and power of suggestion that helped convince myself that maybe the earth was "round." I was never fully convinced. When a video titled "200 proofs" starts off with an argument that is of such low grade subjectiveness, it really lowers one's expectations as to the other 199, and sitting through them tries one's patience. Really? One "proof" into this vid and you've already concluded the following 199 "proofs" are weak? That's a mistake. He crushes it. Dubay dismantles one "scientific" myth/assumption after another. Right till the very end. He even explains the probable identity & cites motivation in the last 10 minutes. Dubay's "200 Proofs" reinforce those legit doubts (IF you or anyone else actually and patiently watches. If so, you'll discover his point-by-point case of deception vs truths are absolutely and devastatingly effective.) Water ALWAYS remains level is does not curve. PROVEN. 70% of this realm is water, ergo, what are we to conclude? I'm not going to try and convince you or anyone else of something you just don't care about on a point by point basis -- Dubay covers the subject well. Either one concedes and realizes this world is about deception or they don't; There are indeed truths the world's PTB/Elites don't and never want us to know or discover. (And YES, they DO control "knowledge.") FWIW I have flown and watched countless hours of actual flights and views. Flat. A flat horizon ALWAYS rises to the eye. If there is any perceived "curve," it seems always to be a slight one at the far edges of the respective 180 degrees. Any other of the 200 that are similarly subjective can be easily dismissed for the same reason, but if you want, pick out 2 or 3 you think are the most compelling and I'll address them. Thanks for trying to be fair & open-minded to even that degree. Respect. But honestly and objectively? At least 150 of Dubay's "Proofs" are "compelling". Seriously. Investigating this subject or any truth isn't for everyone. Many actually do not want to know THE truth. (The question or rather answer with respect to our earthly realm is the Mother of ALL of the PTB Lies. That is why such a "silly(!!)" "Flat Earth" subject is publicly targeted as "dangerous" and heavily censored by G00gle/YouTube head, Susan Wojcicki -- as well as most Scientism cults. Yes, "Scientism" is a religion.) Sorry, but I don't have time or patience to acquire & read whole books on an idea that doesn't even get to first base as there are no shortage of ideas that fail to do that. I specifically mentioned those books precisely because its authors debunk and disprove the very "scientific" foundations for Globe Earth belief in the first place. Copernicus (Heliocentrism), Newton (Gravity), Einstein (Relativity) ALL admitted their respective theories were merely "possible"; NOT "proven.") Their hypotheses, wishful thinking and assumptions didn't stop the "Science" institutions (controlled by Masons/Talmudics/Luciferians/Illuminati) from claiming it so. With respect to NASA, it is an obvious massive and epic theatrical/technical deception & fail. Which is why rejection of the "Moon Landings" are another subject considered "dangerous" by G00gle, YT, the Trekkies, the de Grasse-Tysons, and MSM. It destroys their sci-fi fantasies.
I watched the second one. He claims that as one gains altitude, the horizon should be noticably lower than it is at sea level. This is stated while showing a video from a serious rocket climbing 50k or 100k feet, which in fact shows the horizon dropping lower contrary to his claim that it doesn't appear to do that. Placing my mouse on the horizon shows that it drops away. So the narrator is ignoring his own evidence. #3 Water does not have a perfectly flat surface, but it's certainly close enough to be called "level" when dealing with water in a bathtub or even a lake. When I said previously that a long trench would have water at the same altitude on both ends, that does not mean "level" as water surface would indeed follow the earth's curviture. The narrator false asserts this notion that water always seeks a "level" surface to mean perfectly flat, and never proves it, instead simply exploiting the common notion that water surfaces are flat to suggest that ocean surfaces are also flat. That is simply not the case and is a disingenuous argument. Even a glass of water has a curved water surface due to earth's curvature, though it would be very hard to detect or measure. #4 doesn't even make the slightest amount of sense. Maybe you can explain why he thinks the Gulf of Mexico is 11 miles higher than the American mid-west?
We know that New Orleans is mostly below sea level. If the Gulf were higher than the mid-west there would be a lot of ground under water that is not now. ;)
#80. To: BTP Holdings (#79)
Of course. Seems the narrator in the video is claiming that if the earth was a sphere that the Gulf of Mexico would have to be 11 miles hire than the Mississippi plains, ergo the earth can't be a sphere. But I have no idea why he says the gulf must be 11 miles higher. I guess they call that a strawman argument.
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#26. To: Pinguinite, wudidiz, ALL (#3)
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They are not "proofs". They are arguments, and all I've considered are, to various degrees, easily dismissed.
It is devastatingly effective and convincing.
#28. To: Liberator (#26)
Actually, what's advance here is more like "evidences."
Not only are NONE are "easily dismissed," but to various degrees IMPOSSIBLE to dismiss. Period. (Please let go of your single objection regarding the flight from Chile to NZ and focus instead on some OTHER points/objections.)
(Please let go of your single objection regarding the flight from Chile to NZ and focus instead on some OTHER points/objections.)
#51. To: Pinguinite, 4 (#28)
That's fine, as long as it's understood that evidence is not proof. Finding a footprint of a unique shoe belonging to someone is evidence the person was there, but not proof.
#78. To: Liberator (#51)
Thanks for trying to be fair & open-minded to even that degree. Respect. But honestly and objectively? At least 150 of Dubay's "Proofs" are "compelling". Seriously.
#79. To: Pinguinite (#78)
#4 doesn't even make the slightest amount of sense. Maybe you can explain why he thinks the Gulf of Mexico is 11 miles higher than the American mid-west?
Replies to Comment # 79. If the Gulf were higher than the mid-west there would be a lot of ground under water that is not now. ;)
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