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Title: 200 Proofs Earth is Not a Spinning Ball
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URL Source: https://youtu.be/-Ax_YpQsy88
Published: Dec 29, 2019
Author: Eric Dubay
Post Date: 2019-12-29 19:57:38 by wudidiz
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#76. To: Liberator (#73)
What a happy coincidence!
That is certainly the most intelligent observation in this whole thread and a for sure keeper.
I watched the second one. He claims that as one gains altitude, the horizon should be noticably lower than it is at sea level. This is stated while showing a video from a serious rocket climbing 50k or 100k feet, which in fact shows the horizon dropping lower contrary to his claim that it doesn't appear to do that. Placing my mouse on the horizon shows that it drops away. So the narrator is ignoring his own evidence. #3 Water does not have a perfectly flat surface, but it's certainly close enough to be called "level" when dealing with water in a bathtub or even a lake. When I said previously that a long trench would have water at the same altitude on both ends, that does not mean "level" as water surface would indeed follow the earth's curviture. The narrator false asserts this notion that water always seeks a "level" surface to mean perfectly flat, and never proves it, instead simply exploiting the common notion that water surfaces are flat to suggest that ocean surfaces are also flat. That is simply not the case and is a disingenuous argument. Even a glass of water has a curved water surface due to earth's curvature, though it would be very hard to detect or measure. #4 doesn't even make the slightest amount of sense. Maybe you can explain why he thinks the Gulf of Mexico is 11 miles higher than the American mid-west?
We know that New Orleans is mostly below sea level. If the Gulf were higher than the mid-west there would be a lot of ground under water that is not now. ;) "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
Of course. Seems the narrator in the video is claiming that if the earth was a sphere that the Gulf of Mexico would have to be 11 miles hire than the Mississippi plains, ergo the earth can't be a sphere. But I have no idea why he says the gulf must be 11 miles higher. I guess they call that a strawman argument.
A witness....
But IS it? And what to? You decide. FWIW, I watched your entire video...(and ironically noted the flat horizons in the background as well as the globe prop.) I do appreciate your research in this case...But know this -- Truth is being heavily censored and/or buries DEEP so that the average person can not find it easily. Here is reality. (You'll appreciate the hard number measurements and geometry.) This man is NOT standing at the actual "Geographical South Pole." Please note the placement of respective 'Ceremonial' AND 'Geographical' "SOUTH POLE." Thank you for at least checking those out... There's a misunderstanding of Dubay's "uphill" comment... Brief, simple experiment: Hold a ball at eye level. Run your finger from mid-ball up to the top. (It seems as though you are moving "up" along the ball, right? The Gulf of Mexico conundrum is explained via "Science's" own supposed 'Curvature' formula based on the supposed 25,000 circumference. Without understanding this formula as a reference, the "uphill" comment by Dubay makes little sense. (Below): UNIVERSAL EARTH CURVATURE FORMULA http://luuksteitner.nl/testing-the-earths-curvature/ The idea is simple: If you move further outwards, the surface of the Earth drops: As listed on this table, moving 10 miles outwards would result in a 66 feet drop: I would expect the problem with this approach would be obvious to anyone, but it turns out it isn’t. So let me explain: When are a looking at a distant object located on the globe, we are not looking in the direction parallel to the globe, but a bit downwards, directly at the object: This means we are not looking at the actual drop of the Earth’s surface between the spectator and the building, but we need to look at the height of the curvature between them: This obstacle height determines how much we can see of the target. I could give you one formula to calculate this height, but given the bad experience with the method the Flat Earthers use, I’ll take you through the calculations step by step so it can be understood. To calculate the obstacle height, we need to be at the middle between the spectator and target and in stead of the Earth’s radius calculate the distance from the center of the globe to this flat line. Then, the difference between the Earth’s radius and the distance to this flat line will give us the obstacle height. One can't trust the claims in this video. He simply makes claims about the various distances. The cerimonial and geographic south pole are reputed to only be a short distance apart, and they are that because the ice on which both are place shifts a few feet per month.
I read this explanation, and it seems it's not complete. I still have no idea why the gulf of Mexico needs to be 11 miles higher than the Mississippi plains on a global earth model.
Intelligent people knew the earth was a sphere well before Orwell was born. Apparently you've never studied history, just as you've never studied math or science. Moreover, exactly at what point does water start "curving? Water always follows the curvature of the earth. If you were a bacteria on a basketball, at what point would the ball start to "curve"? youtu.be/INhCw52M3WM And But don't watch these two videos. Don't question plate tectonics. Man, don't even think about using common logic. The academic gate keepers have given us all the truth of everything and it would be better to discuss flat earth before one even considers the validity of expanding earth. ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) If you don't control your mind someone else will.
"Explorers"? You mean the ones who "explored the continent of Antarctica"? Please tell me -- who were they?? You throw out strawmen dude. Many people have gone to Antarctica, use Google if you're interested in who discovered it. I'm talking about people such as Ferdinand Magellan Ferdinand Magellan (/mYÈa[lYn/[1] or /mYÈd’[lYn/;[2] Portuguese: Fernão de Magalhães, IPA: [fh~ÈnPw dh mPcPÈŽPjƒ]; Spanish: Fernando de Magallanes, IPA: [fe~Ènando ðe macaÈŽanes]; c. 1480 – 27 April 1521) was a Portuguese explorer who organised the Spanish expedition to the East Indies from 1519 to 1522, resulting in the first circumnavigation of the Earth, completed by Juan Sebastián Elcano. Apparently you've never heard of him. Do you believe in airplanes and boats? They have frequently traveled across the globe. If the earth was flat as you believe, boats would have fallen off long ago, and airplanes would have been able to see where the edges were. Additionally, navigation would be impossible since all charts and headings assume a spherical earth. Scientists. You mean the ones who insist that there are more than two genders? The scientists who claim "Global Warming"? It's only left wing snowflakes, not scientists, that believe that in the same way you flat earthers believe you have it right. Climate change is a racket where SOME paid off individuals repeat what they're told to repeat. The true experts know it's all a hoax. I am going to go out on a limb here and say you know very little about either Earth "Exploration" OR "Science" -- but "know" a whole LOT about "Interplantetary Travel" and "Space Exploration." I'm going to go out on a limb and say you've never attended any type of school. Surprised you know English. Of course you would have no idea of Newton's Laws of Motion. And I seriously doubt you know the difference between Algebra and Calculus. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I suppose there is no north pole either, eh? Compasses are devices of the devil, right? No matter where you are on the planet, north is still north, and south is still south. You could be in Africa, China, the US, Europe, it doesn't matter. The fastest way to get to Europe from the US would be to travel east. BUT you COULD travel west and STILL get there, it'd just take much longer. You'd have to cross the Pacific, go over Russia, then arrive in Europe. OR you could take the shorter route over the Atlantic and get there faster. Do you think the Pacific Ocean and Russia are fake too? Please explain ANY "fundamental concept of motion." Never heard of Newton's Laws of Motion I take it... From Wiki First law Second law Third law And while you're at it, exactly what did I claim about Einstein that you object to? You said, "Einstein's sham 'Theory of Relativity' save the day for Fake Science. " amongst other laughable remarks you made. You have no idea of what the Theory of Relativity is, so never mind making any sort of claim against it. 193 countries is quite a feat. I've been to 43 of the lower 48 states when driving trucks. Just a few in New England and North and South Dakota and Montana are not on the list. I drove a lot of miles safely over a period of about 15 years. ;) "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
I'm glad I did not waste any time watching that video. ;) "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
If the Gulf of Mexico were at a higher elevation than the Midwest, the Mississippi River would flow north. “I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs
C'mon bro, all substances can exert friction, including air and water. As an example, hurricane force winds can knock down trees due to friction. Another example, submarines would be able to travel underwater without propulsion once in motion if the water around it didn't slow the submarine down due to friction. A better claim would have been that Death Valley is below sea level, as that would be a true statement. However, the surrounding area is at or above sea level, including the California coastline. Apparently the flat earthers don't understand the fact that the seas are ALL at the same level, that's why sea level is a constant value. Sure, storm surges and tides cause the shorelines to experience minor differences in water heights at the shore, but that's it. All oceans are at the same average level. Ah, Dr. Flat Earth speaks. I KNEW I spotted you claiming you're more brilliant than Einstein somewhere, and I found an example right there. So you don't believe there is a force called gravity eh? LOL!!!!! Explain then what force causes objects to fall to the ground? Is it the devil? What causes a solar or lunar eclipse? Are there elves in the sky that move a huge disk in front of the sun and moon every so often to play games with people on earth? What causes the tides? Is it the devil? Why is air thinner at higher altitudes? The devil? Why can we see planets rotate and revolve around the sun using telescopes, and accurately plot their positions using math and physics? There are so MANY things flat earthers can't explain, those are just a tiny fraction of them. I know, I was being goofy to make a point. There is a reason for the heat shields on craft such as space shuttles. “I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs
I've got to hand it to you, with over 100 replies this is the most successful troll I've ever seen on the 4um. Or it's a prima facie case as to why this country is lost. Who are you again?? zzzzz.... Insecurity and lack of knowledge have always prompted certain posters to claim "TROLL!" OR even "CT!" at forums. You're not special. We've seen this phenomena play out for over 20 years, beginning at Free Republic, where the "Troll" or "CT!" card is still used by those with a losing hand, providing convenient cover for sheer ignorance. At smaller, clique-ish forums like LF or 4um, such claims are sure and loud signs that one is signaling painful obliviousness, and cluelessness. On the other hand... If you were hoping eventually for a few "ATTA BOY!!" pats on the head, your sake, I hope you get the approval you seek from your peers; If you don't, I hope you'll be ok. After a cursory look, there's anecdotal evidence that appears to suggest an "uneven" record of forum contribution from a slightly noisy, boring poster named, 'Anthem'. God knows you've tried... In *your* mind, you've ALL the answers. That's BE-CAUSE...you've/we've all been taught or rather indoctrinated with the very same history, science, math, and especially so-called "TRUTH" in public school, on TV, in Movies, in the Mainstream Media. AND... we know of course THEY wouldn't lie to you or me or all of us. OR WOULD THEY? Everyone has an agenda. Everyone lies -- especially those in power. Worst than that -- these PTB worship power & control at ANY expense. If you agree, this mean higher knowledge & true history must necessarily be hidden and reserved for those who control the levers and systems of this realm. It is indeed being proven -- that is IF one seeks it. On the otherhand, if you are perfectly content with your current status quo and state of awareness and "truth" (as contemporary society's high priests of institutional "knowledge" present it), then by all means continue to embrace it. However, by wrapping yourself around your Orwellian quote regarding, "Those who control the past control the future" as well as those who "control the present control the past," -- and truly believe it as your own personal philosophy -- they are two contradictory positions at best, and oblivious at worse. One can NOT be an Orwellian disciple AND still embrace all we are told by the PTB is THE "TRUTH!" Prepare for incoming... :-) Really now?? LOL (Though I admire your fighting spirit -- though reckless as it is.) Explain then what force causes objects to fall to the ground? "Gravity" is NOT a natural force that is proven. But since you believe exactly what you've been told from K-12, please do instruct the class on Newton's Theory, (which is why it is STILL referred to as a "THEORY" and how and why it's not EVER been "proven.") Btw, Neil de Grasse Tyson -- obviously one of your heroes -- was asked to explain "Gravity"; Wanna guess how he answered the question? With respect to: Heliocentrism. PROVE IT. 516 views and rising -- wudidiz, that has got to be some kind of phenomenal RECORD here!
_____________________________________________________________ USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um
I don't know what to think on this subject, but hey, gang -- science is supposed to be physically provable and repeatable ;-)
_____________________________________________________________ USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um
It's an unexplored subject at most forums. Why? Because is evokes the kind of anger and ridicule Wudidiz (a courageous and true "Truther") and others have endured for having the audacity to challenge institutional lies and fake science. To do so is to cause folks to admit that...for all their lives they been bamboozled. (few want to concede this embarrassment.) Most of these "scientific facts" have been drilled into us from childhood and repeated into adulthood. They comprise the biggest psyops and mind-control programming in world history. Not only is NONE of the above proven, but they are DIS-proven. The biggest challenge is "re-educating" ourselves. (This single subject has caused minds to explode once the lies are exploded and realized. BUT then ...Truth is a beautiful thing.) BINGO. EXACTLY!! It is, my brothah! (Sistah?) Psyops YES, everything is oriented toward stampeding Us The Sheeple off some cliff -- the face cliff, the sex cliff, the history cliff, the basic logic cliff. _____________________________________________________________ USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um
On the subject of psyops and mind control/programming... How many of us FINALLY realized our own govt has been lying to us on a massive scale? BIG TIME? 911 certainly rings a GIANT bell. How about the USS Liberty? Gulf of Tonkin? And weren't the Korean and Vietnam Wars based on lies? How about BOTH Iraqi wars? How many of us were told, "We're fighting them THERE so we don't have to fight them HERE."? Why won't many admit that it was proven that our PTB fought NOT to win, but to play to a stalemate? So as in the above cases once, again we note that the majority can NOT believe our own govt would either lie to us OR hurt us. TO ADVANCE AGENDAS TO CONTROL US. YET....They do! AS A RULE -- NOT as the exception. NN, I identify as a transgendered, tri-ethnic elf. (before my transition, I was born male ;-P (and you?) Psyops YES, everything is oriented toward stampeding Us The Sheeple off some cliff -- the face cliff, the sex cliff, the history cliff, the basic logic cliff. You get it. Aced across the board. All we can do is discredit and shed the lies we've all been conditioned with while share our discoveries and revelations to our brothers and sisters with hope that Truth spreads and frees them/us. Many will not nor do not welcome their world as they've been told it exists being challenged; Ignorance truly is bliss for most. After two phony World War involvements the sheeple should have seen right through the Gulf of Tonkin fraud, or at least demanded positive proof. And in view of that affair -- 56 YEARS AGO AWREDDY -- they should have slammed the door in the neocons' faces about 9/11, the War Of Terror and the INSTANT creation of the Department of Home Insecurity. They have not one SHRED of defense for falling for any more such shenanigans. _____________________________________________________________ USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestThanks for letting me know who NOT to take seriously
#77. To: Pinguinite (#50)
My theory is that the human mind has a greatly underestimated ability to believe things that are not true. Massively underestimated. It's the reason why some Muslims blow themselves up, why people hate Trump so much, why countries are largely one specific religion over vast periods of time, and so on. It's a basis for deception something we are all subject to and I don't consider anyone immune, including myself.
#78. To: Liberator (#51)
Thanks for trying to be fair & open-minded to even that degree. Respect. But honestly and objectively? At least 150 of Dubay's "Proofs" are "compelling". Seriously.
#79. To: Pinguinite (#78)
#4 doesn't even make the slightest amount of sense. Maybe you can explain why he thinks the Gulf of Mexico is 11 miles higher than the American mid-west?
#80. To: BTP Holdings (#79)
If the Gulf were higher than the mid-west there would be a lot of ground under water that is not now. ;)
#81. To: Liberator (#75)
#82. To: Pinguinite (#81)
A witness....
#83. To: Pinguinite, BTP Holdings (#78)
Statute Miles Away Maths = Drop 1 1 x 1 x 8 = 8 Inches 2 2 x 2 x 8 = 32 Inches 3 3 x 3 x 8 / 12 = 6 Feet 4 4 x 4 x 8 / 12 = 10 Feet 5 5 x 5 x 8 / 12 = 16 Feet 6 6 x 6 x 8 / 12 = 24 Feet 7 7 x 7 x 8 / 12 = 32 Feet 8 8 x 8 x 8 / 12 = 42 Feet 9 9 x 9 x 8 / 12 = 54 Feet 10 10 x 10 x 8 / 12 = 66 Feet 
The mathematics
#84. To: Liberator (#82)
#85. To: Liberator (#83)
#86. To: Liberator (#64)
AND...you "know" this BECAUSE...???
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination 
#87. To: Liberator, Dakmar (#65)
If you're standing mid-ocean with a 360 degree view, are you able to see what would theoretically be a 28 mile radius? If so, would that provide a wide enough view of level horizon in your opinion?
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#88. To: Pinguinite (#85)
#89. To: Liberator (#67)
(Edited)
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#90. To: Liberator (#82)
The South Pole is fake
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#91. To: Liberator (#83)
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#92. To: Liberator (#68)
Newton's laws of motion are three physical laws that, together, laid the foundation for classical mechanics. They describe the relationship between a body and the forces acting upon it, and its motion in response to those forces. More precisely, the first law defines the force qualitatively, the second law offers a quantitative measure of the force, and the third asserts that a single isolated force doesn't exist. These three laws have been expressed in several ways, over nearly three centuries,[a] and can be summarised as follows:
In an inertial frame of reference, an object either remains at rest or continues to move at a constant velocity, unless acted upon by a force.[2][3]
In an inertial frame of reference, the vector sum of the forces F on an object is equal to the mass m of that object multiplied by the acceleration a of the object: F = ma. (It is assumed here that the mass m is constant – see below.)
When one body exerts a force on a second body, the second body simultaneously exerts a force equal in magnitude and opposite in direction on the first body.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#93. To: Pinguinite (#81)
#94. To: StraitGate (#71)
watch a 2 hour video asserting that water is dry
#95. To: FormerLurker (#87)
(Edited)
Water always follows the curvature of the earth.
#96. To: Dakmar (#18)
But the batter is a liquid, there is no friction. :)
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#97. To: Dakmar (#95)
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"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#98. To: Liberator (#75)
The Bible is the very first "Flat Earth" book; Flat Earth is proven via observation, by common sense, by REAL science.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#99. To: Liberator (#75)
Some people -- no matter how intelligent -- do not and will not ever admit that they have been bamboozled their entire lives with THE Mother of ALL Lies, backed up by Masonic/Talmudic lies regarding Heliocentrism, Gravity, Earth Movement, Evolution, and of course, Einstein's phony theory of "Relativity."
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#100. To: Liberator (#75)
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#101. To: FormerLurker (#96)
all substances can exert friction, including air and water.
#102. To: Liberator (#83)
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Freedom is a social skill.
#103. To: Anthem (#102)
I've got to hand it to you, with over 100 replies this is the most successful troll I've ever seen on the 4um.
#104. To: FormerLurker (#100)
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#105. To: FormerLurker (#100)
#106. To: FormerLurker (#99)
I KNEW I spotted you claiming you're more brilliant than Einstein somewhere, and I found an example right there.
#107. To: FormerLurker (#99)
So you don't believe there is a force called gravity eh? LOL!!!!!
#108. To: FormerLurker (#99)
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Gravity. PROVE IT.
Earth Movement. PROVE IT.
Evolution. PROVE IT.
Einstein's Theory of "Relativity" (HINT: It's called " THEORY".) So PROVE it is MORE than just a "Theory."
"Globe" Earth: PROVE IT
Antarctica "Explorers of THE CONTINENT": PROVE IT
"Big Bang": PROVE IT
#109. To: wudidiz (#0)
#110. To: Liberator, HAPPY2BME-4UM (#108)
#111. To: NeoconsNailed, wudidiz (#109)
#112. To: NeoconsNailed (#110)
Science is supposed to be physically provable and repeatable ;-)
#113. To: Liberator (#111)
Truth is a beautiful thing.
#114. To: NeoconsNailed (#110)
#115. To: NeoconsNailed (#113)
It is, my brothah! (Sistah?)
#116. To: Liberator (#114)
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