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Title: U.S. Will Come To Regret Its Assassination of Qassim Soleimani
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URL Source: https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/ ... ation-of-qassim-soleimani.html
Published: Jan 3, 2020
Author: Moon of Alabama
Post Date: 2020-01-03 17:28:23 by Ada
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Views: 364
Comments: 19

Today the U.S. declared war on Iran and Iraq.

War is what it will get.

Earlier today a U.S. drone or helicopter killed Major General Qassim Soleimani, the famous commander of the Iranian Quds ('Jerusalem') force, while he left the airport of Baghdad where he had just arrived. He had planned to attend the funeral of the 31 Iraqi soldiers the U.S. had killed on December 29 at the Syrian-Iraqi border near Al-Qaim.

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The Quds force is the external arm of the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps. Soleiman was responsible for all relations between Iran and political and militant movements outside of Iran. Hajji Qassim advised the Lebanese Hisbullah during the 2006 war against Israel. His support for Iraqi groups enabled them to kick the U.S. invaders out of Iraq. He was the man responsible for, and successful in, defeating the Islamic State in iraq and Syria. In 2015 Soleimani traveled to Moscow and convinced Russia to intervene in Syria. His support for the Houthi in Yemen enabled them to withstand the Saudi attackers.

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Soleimani had arrived in Baghdad on a normal flight from Lebanon. He did not travel in secret. He was picked up at the airport by Abu Mahdi al-Muhandes, the deputy commander of the al-Hashd al-Shaabi, an official Iraqi security force under the command of the Iraqi Prime Minister. The two cars they traveled in were destroyed in the U.S. attack. Both men and their drivers and guards died.

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The U.S. created two martyrs who will now become the models and idols for tens of millions of youth in the Middle East.

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The Houthi in Yemen, Hizbullah in Lebanon, Islamic Jihad in Palestine, the paramilitary forces in Syria, Iraq and elsewhere have all benefited from Soleimani's advice and support. They will all take actions to revenge him.

Moqtada al-Sadr, the unruly Shia cleric who commands millions of followers in Iraq, has given orders to reactivate his military branch 'Jaish al-Imam al-Mahdi'. Between 2004 and 2008 the Mahdi forces fought the U.S. occupation of Iraq. They will do so again.

The outright assassination of a commander of Soleimani's weight demands an Iranian reaction of at least a similar size. All U.S. generals or high politicians traveling in the Middle East or elsewhere will now have to watch their back. There will be no safety for them anywhere.

No Iraqi politician will be able to argue for keeping U.S. forces in the country. The Iraqi Prime Minister Abdel Mahdi has called for a parliament emergency meeting to ask for the withdrawal of all U.S. troops:

"The targeted assassination of an Iraqi commander is a violation of the agreement. It can trigger a war in Iraq and the region. It is a clear violation of the conditions of the U.S. presence in Iraq. I call on the parliament to take the necessary steps."

The National Security Council of Iran is meeting with Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei to "study the options of response". There are many such options. The U.S. has forces stationed in many countries around Iran. From now on none of them will be safe.

Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, issued a statement calling for three days of public mourning and then retaliation.

“His departure to God does not end his path or his mission,” the statement said, “but a forceful revenge awaits the criminals who have his blood and the blood of the other martyrs last night on their hands.”

Iran will tie its response to the political calender. U.S. President Donald Trump will go into his reelection campaign with U.S. troops under threat everywhere. We can expect incidents like the Beirut barracks bombing to repeat themselves when he is most vulnerable.

Trump will learn that killing the enemy is the easy part of a war. The difficulties come after that happened.

In 2018 Soleimani publicly responded to a tweet in which Trump had threatened Iran:

“Mr. Trump, the gambler! […] You are well aware of our power and capabilities in the region. You know how powerful we are in asymmetrical warfare. Come, we are waiting for you. We are the real men on the scene, as far as you are concerned. You know that a war would mean the loss of all your capabilities. You may start the war, but we will be the ones to determine its end.”

Since May 2019 the U.S. deployed at least 14,800 additional soldiers to the Middle East. Over the last three days airborne elements and special forces followed. The U.S.has clearly planned for an escalation.

Soleimani will be replaced by Brigadier General Ismail Ghani, a veteran of the Iran-Iraq war who has for decades been active in the Quds Force and has fought against ISIS in Syria. He is an officer of equal stature and capability.

Iran's policies and support for foreign groups will intensify. The U.S. has won nothing with its attack but will feel the consequences for decades to come. From now on its position in the Middle East will be severely constrained. Others will move in to take its place.

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#1. To: Ada (#0)

No Iraqi politician will be able to argue for keeping U.S. forces in the country. The Iraqi Prime Minister Abdel Mahdi has called for a parliament emergency meeting to ask for the withdrawal of all U.S. troops:

If that is true, and if Iraq were to do that, Iran could claim a strategic victory without firing a shot, as it would be a severe embarrassment and setback for the US to be kicked out of Iraq. It should certainly ease tensions from the incident, at the expense of the US, and further forge relations between Iraq and Iran.

If it is true.

Pinguinite  posted on  2020-01-03   17:39:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Pinguinite (#1)

The Iraqi might pass a resolution to toss us out, but whether we would pay any attention to is is another question.

Ada  posted on  2020-01-03   17:55:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Ada (#2)

The Iraqi might pass a resolution to toss us out, but whether we would pay any attention to is is another question.

Oh, that would be comical. If Iraq ordered bases close and the US said "screw you", then what would happen. Maybe Iraq couldn't/wouldn't attack the bases, but they could blockade them. All resupplies and rotations of personnel must be done by air. No more trucks going in or out of the bases or embassy.

Politically, it would drain the US of any pretense of moral authority in the region. No, I can't see such a thing happening. Soon after Obama took office, after thaht fiasco with Blackwater shooting up a city street killing about 15 Iraqis when no insurgents were present, Iraq withdrew criminal immunity from US troops. That temporarily resulted in US troops being pulled out of Iraq, against Obama's desires but in line with his campaign promise.

Pinguinite  posted on  2020-01-03   19:41:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Ada (#2)

The Iraqi might pass a resolution to toss us out

How long have you been over there? Please be careful; that's no place for a lady.

StraitGate  posted on  2020-01-03   20:41:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Ada (#2) (Edited)

Yep. Something like 14,000 new troops in 2019. Trump won't hesitate to tromp around with the literary equivalent of hob-nailed boots and a spiked club if he decides they deserve it. At least he goes for the win, public opinion be damned.


Freedom is a social skill.

Anthem  posted on  2020-01-03   20:54:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: StraitGate (#4)

Was a long time ago on a camping trip. And, yes, the people are childish and dangerous. Was much relieve when we crossed to India

Ada  posted on  2020-01-04   11:26:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Pinguinite (#3)

The Iraqi legislature is to convene on Sunday and no doubt great pressure will be put on them although I do remember them passing such a resolution some time ago but their puppet president vetoed it or something.

Ada  posted on  2020-01-04   11:29:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Ada (#7)

The Iraqi legislature is to convene on Sunday and no doubt great pressure will be put on them although I do remember them passing such a resolution some time ago but their puppet president vetoed it or something.

A reason for Iraq to NOT expel US troops is that they can help protect against a violent overthrow of the government. A second reason not to is the financial benefit of having bases there, and Iraq obviously needs all the financial benefit it can get after we wrecked the place.

On the other hand, the US is not going to change its ways. The US will do more bombing strikes so I think that's going to eventually lead to Iraq kicking troops out and making an informal alliance with Iran (which it seems they kinda have already anyway, given the presence of Iranian elements in Iraq). If that happens it will be a major political blow to the US to lose Iraq after all the money, lives and some 16 years that was spent to "liberate" and rebuild the country into a US puppet state.

Pinguinite  posted on  2020-01-04   11:50:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Pinguinite (#8)

Iraq obviously needs all the financial benefit it can get after we wrecked the place.

All of the DU ammo that was expended there during the war now must be cleaned up according to the U.N. From what I have heard the DU residue is being sealed in drums and sent to Idaho where it is being buried in old mine shafts. I guess it can harm no one there. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2020-01-04   12:14:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: BTP Holdings (#9)

From what I have heard the DU residue is being sealed in drums and sent to Idaho where it is being buried in old mine shafts. I guess it can harm no one there. ;)

Well, it all came out of the ground in the first place, so putting it back in seems reasonable.

Pinguinite  posted on  2020-01-04   12:53:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Pinguinite (#8)

If that happens it will be a major political blow to the US to lose Iraq after all the money, lives and some 16 years that was spent to "liberate" and rebuild the country into a US puppet state.

If they lose Iraq, they will have to let go of the eastern Syrian oil fields.

Ada  posted on  2020-01-04   13:15:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Ada (#11)

If they lose Iraq, they will have to let go of the eastern Syrian oil fields.

I guess so. But the US is not holding the oil fields for need of the oil. Probably just keeping them out of Assad's hands.

By far the worst thing about getting kicked out of Iraq is the sheer amount of international embarrassment it would bring the USA. All the casualties suffered, all the money spent on Iraq would be gone in an instant, along with any illusions about the US being some kind of beacon of freedom and justice to the world. It would be a slap in the face from a little guy to the most powerful country in the world, and with no option for the USA except to accept the spanking and sit in the corner.

Pinguinite  posted on  2020-01-04   13:58:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Ada (#11)

the eastern Syrian oil fields.

The oil that is coming from the fields in Syria is being diverted by truck into Turkey, and from there to refineries in Israel. So if the U.S. gives up those oil fields the Joos will lose out on the oil. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2020-01-04   14:03:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Pinguinite (#12)

No more of an embarrassment than being defeated in Korea, Vietnam, and Cuba.

Just leave that shitty continent and let them continue killing each other.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2020-01-04   14:36:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: BTP Holdings (#13)

Erdogan and his family were famously ripping this supply off by the multi-mile truck convoy load.

However, with the US forces consolidating in the east of Syria, the Kurds have taken control of oil fields that were staffed pre-war by Arab personnel from the western parts of the country.

That oil is now financing Kurd government and infrastructure, according to available mainstream sources.

Erdogan is no doubt very pissed off. His son was making a bundle transferring petroleum product from the Syrian border to Turkish ports on the Mediterranean where it was piped onto waiting ships at a nice profit.

Now there's a family that is never shy of stealing whatever it wants right out in the open. Remind you of anyone we know?

randge  posted on  2020-01-04   14:56:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Lod (#14)

No more of an embarrassment than being defeated in Korea, Vietnam, and Cuba.

Maybe, but all 3 of those involved a cessation of military activity. This would be different as it would be the Iraqi gov telling the US "Your fired".

The State Department is certainly aware of this possibility and no doubt working their ambassador over time in Iraq to lobby the gov there to do no such thing. Maybe the CIA is doing their fair share of influencing as well.

Pinguinite  posted on  2020-01-04   15:52:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Pinguinite (#16)

Fired from what job? What exactly is the point and purpose of US being in Iraq? How are those people better off than when Saddam Hussein ruled them? (They loved the guy.)

We broke that country and are now there creating further death and destruction.

Why?

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2020-01-04   17:46:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Ada (#6)

Was a long time ago on a camping trip.

You went camping in Iraq? Wow! That's a level 10 on the intrepid scale.

My wife's idea of primitive camping is the Hampton Inn. And considering the swill they sling for coffee -- which they must dig from the dumpster of the nearest gas station -- I have to agree with her.

StraitGate  posted on  2020-01-04   20:48:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: StraitGate (#18)

Once we crossed from Europe into Turkey we no longer camped out of doors but either behind walls or cheap Chinese hotels. (One exception was a ruin in eastern Turkey which was probably the most dangerous area we passed through.) The Turks could be quite friendly until they were not and then they might kill you. We had to rescue a couple of western tourists who had run afoul of them.

Didn't camp in Iraq. Went through Turkey to Iran.

Ada  posted on  2020-01-05   9:56:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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