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Title: Australia echoes western leaders in alleging Iran accidentally downed Ukraine plane
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URL Source: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl ... cid=spartanntp#image=BBYIY1j|4
Published: Jan 10, 2020
Author: Ben Doherty
Post Date: 2020-01-11 10:51:34 by BTP Holdings
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Views: 72
Comments: 9

Australia echoes western leaders in alleging Iran accidentally downed Ukraine plane

Ben Doherty 1 day ago

Slide 4 of 50: TEHRAN, IRAN - JANUARY 10: (----EDITORIAL USE ONLY MANDATORY CREDIT - "IRAN PRESS / HANDOUT" - NO MARKETING NO ADVERTISING CAMPAIGNS - DISTRIBUTED AS A SERVICE TO CLIENTS----) Head of Irans of Civil Aviation Organization Ali Abedzadeh holds a press conference on Iran plane crash in Tehran, Iran on January 10, 2020. (Photo by IRAN PRESS / HANDOUT/Anadolu Agency via Getty Images)

1/50 SLIDES © Iran Press/Handout/Anadolu Agency/Getty Images Head of Iran's Civil Aviation Organization Ali Abedzadeh holds a press conference on Iran plane crash in Tehran, Iran on Jan. 10.

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Australian prime minister Scott Morrison has backed other western leaders including Donald Trump, Justin Trudeau and Boris Johnson in alleging Iran accidentally shot down a passenger jet in Tehran shortly after a volley of missile fire aimed at US military bases in the region.

Intelligence sources told the Guardian their assessments suggest two surface-to-air missiles had targeted the Boeing 737-800 passenger jet that crashed in Iran on Wednesday morning, killing all 176 people onboard.

Morrison told radio 2GB: “I can confirm that we have had similar intelligence as our partners have.

“This is not a deliberate act as we can determine … it’s a terrible accident.” Related: A visual guide to the Iran plane crash

Morrison said a full and independent inquiry into the incident was needed, and the black boxes from the plane should be made available to investigators outside of Iran.

Morrison’s comments follow those of Canadian prime minister Justin Trudeau who said his country “will not rest” until it got justice for the loss of Canadian lives.

Of the 176 people onboard, 79 were Iranian, 63 were Canadian and 11 were Ukrainian (including nine crew members), along with 10 Swedes, seven Afghans, three Britons and three German nationals.

“We have intelligence, including from our allies and own intelligence that the plane was shot down by Iranian surface-to-air missiles,” Trudeau said.

“Canadians want answers. That means transparency, accountability and justice.” Ukraine International Airlines flight 752 aircraft crashed in farmland on the outskirts of Tehran a few hours after Iran had fired more than a dozen missiles at US bases in Iraq. Commanders of Iran’s Revolutionary Guards have said that in the hours after the missile strikes, they were on high alert, anticipating an imminent American response.

The Iranian missile strikes were retribution for the US assassination, by reaper drone, of Iran’s most powerful general Qassem Soleimani, in an attack at Baghdad airport last week.

Australia is part of the Five Eyes intelligence-sharing network – along with the US, UK, Canada and New Zealand – that cooperates on intelligence measures, and so will have seen the same intelligence material its allies have.

The black boxes from the flight have been found and secured by Iranian authorities who say they will not share them with US aviation authorities or with the aircraft manufacturer, Boeing, but will give Ukrainian investigators access to the investigation.

The UK prime minister, Boris Johnson, said there was now a “body of information” that the flight was shot down by an Iranian surface-to-air missile.

“This may well have been unintentional. We are working closely with Canada and our international partners and there now needs to be a full, transparent investigation.”

The US president, Donald Trump, said he had “suspicions” the plane had been accidentally shot down.

“Someone could have made a mistake on the other side,” he said. “Some people say it was mechanical, I personally don’t think that’s even a question. I have a feeling that … something very terrible happened.”

Iran has fiercely rejected the uniform western intelligence assessments.

“Scientifically, it is impossible that a missile hit the Ukrainian plane, and such rumours are illogical,” Ali Abedzadeh, the head of Iran’s of Civil Aviation Organisation told state-run media.

Morrison confirmed earlier this week Australian troops would remain in Iraq. Operation Okra comprises a special operations task group, as well as task group Taji, which works to train Iraqi security forces.

Taji is based at the Taji military base, about 30km north of Baghdad. The base was not targeted this week, despite early reports it had been. The base did close operations during the week.

As Iraq’s security situation has deteriorated dramatically over the past few months, Iraqi interpreters working alongside Australian diggers have raised concerns that they will be targeted by Iranian-backed militias who have publicly threatened Iraqi nationals who support foreign forces.

Interpreters have told the Guardian they fear they will be abandoned if Australian troops are forced to leave Iraq, and say they are being practicably prevented from applying for visas.


Poster Comment:

There is a gizmo called Identify Friend or Foe (IFF) which has been around since the inception of radar during the time of WW II.

Identification friend or foe

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#1. To: BTP Holdings (#0)

MSM was reporting yesterday that Iran admitted it was accidentally shot down.

Iran has capable missiles, but perhaps not surprisingly (apparently) an iron clad system of shoot-down authorization. The Iranian military as a whole was certainly on extremely high alert at the time they attacked US forces.

The escalation of tensions with Iran, or anyone, can have collateral damage, and now a bunch of foreigners have died because of it. And the question of how much, if any, culpability falls to Trump could be debated for a long time. His broken promises to leave, his decision to assassinate.... When you go into a bad neighborhood with a shotgun to throw your weight around and innocent people die as a result.... Technically, no, it wasn't Trump's fault. But if he hadn't assassinated Soleimani... Certainly the relatives are going to blame both Iran and Trump.

Pinguinite  posted on  2020-01-11   11:57:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Pinguinite (#1)

Certainly the relatives are going to blame both Iran and Trump.

Trump is certainly surround by neocons such as Pompeo, even though he has given John Bolton the axe.

Trump took the initiative and hit Soleimani when he was travelling thru Baghdad on his way to Saudi Arabia. Soleimani should likely never have left Iran and sent one of his subordinates to speak with the Saudis.

Of course there are some things you just cannot leave to happenstance, and you have to take the bull by the horns and do it yourself. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2020-01-11   13:35:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: BTP Holdings (#2)

Maybe Saudi Arabia set Soleimani up, baiting him into Bagdad for the purpose of having him killed.

Pinguinite  posted on  2020-01-11   16:14:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Pinguinite (#3)

Maybe Saudi Arabia set Soleimani up, baiting him into Bagdad for the purpose of having him killed.

That could be. The Saudis have been close allies of the U.S. for many years.

The Iranians are mostly Shi'ite but the Iranians are mostly Sunni. Those two have been feuding since the start of Islam. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2020-01-11   16:25:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: BTP Holdings (#4)

I imagine it took a few centuries for the 2 sects to diverge.

Pinguinite  posted on  2020-01-11   16:37:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Pinguinite (#5)

I imagine it took a few centuries for the 2 sects to diverge.

The way I understand it was a difference between how the Prophet Mohammad's teachings were interpreted.

As you can see at the following link, the split between the two sects occurred right after the death of the Prophet Mohammad. ;)

www.differencebetween.net/miscellaneous/difference- between-sunni-and-shiite-islam/

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2020-01-11   16:51:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: BTP Holdings (#6)

Ah... I didn't bother to look it up. Interesting. The Catholic church (which would have been known as simply "the Church" split into Roman Catholic vs Orthodox Church early on, and of course the RC church went its own way until the 1500's or so with Martin Luther breaking away from it. So the RC church going almost 1000 years without a break is a pretty good run.

Fast forward to today and I think think some protestant church is going to split over the issue of gay marriage and gay ministers.

Pinguinite  posted on  2020-01-11   17:01:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: BTP Holdings (#0)

The US Navy NEVER admitted they shot down flight 800, in the mid 90's.

Darkwing  posted on  2020-01-12   9:01:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Darkwing (#8)

The US Navy NEVER admitted they shot down flight 800, in the mid 90's.

Why should the Navy admit anything? The whole sad scene was captured on closed circuit TV and broadcast to the White House where officials were there to watch the test. Everyone knew it was a monumental blunder. ;)

milfuegos.blogspot.com/20...lf-missile-shot-down-twa-800.html

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2020-01-12   10:39:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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