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Title: Why Christians Should Not Pray for the Troops
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URL Source: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/01 ... hould-not-pray-for-the-troops/
Published: Jan 14, 2020
Author: Laurence M. Vance
Post Date: 2020-01-14 09:53:02 by Ada
Keywords: None
Views: 627
Comments: 17

Some years ago I gave my expression to my own feeling – anti-patriotic feeling, it will doubtless be called – in a somewhat startling way. It was at the time of the second Afghan war, when, in pursuance of what were thought to be “our interests,” we were invading Afghanistan. News had come that some of our troops were in danger. At the Athenæum Club a well-known military man – then a captain but now a general – drew my attention to a telegram containing this news, and read it to me in a manner implying the belief that I should share his anxiety. I astounded him by replying – ‘When men hire themselves out to shoot other men to order, asking nothing about the justice of their cause, I don’t care if they are shot themselves.’” ~ Herbert Spencer (1820-1903)

If you skipped over the quotation from Herbert Spencer, then go back and read it. If you just skimmed the quotation, then go back and read it carefully. If you read it all the way through, then go back and read it again.

“When men hire themselves out to shoot other men to order, asking nothing about the justice of their cause, I don’t care if they are shot themselves.” These are harsh words. Most—probably a great majority of—Americans think that this is a despicable attitude to have about U.S. soldiers. You know, the ones who “serve” us, keep us safe, preserve our freedoms, “support and defend” the Constitution, keep us from having to speak a foreign language, and fight “over there” so we don’t have to fight “over here.”

There are almost 50,000 U.S. military personnel in the Persian Gulf region and tens of thousands more military contractors. There are 35 U.S. military bases that surround Iran.

More U.S. troops are now being deployed to the Middle East after President Trump’s foolish act of state terrorism in ordering the political assassination of Iran’s Maj. Gen. Qasem Soleimani. According to military.com, in the days since the Jan. 3 drone strike that took out Soleimani, “roughly 9,000 conventional troops have been deployed to the Middle East, ranging from Marines on amphibious ships to Army Rangers and paratroopers.” “We’re going to war, bro,” cheered a young soldier of the 82nd Airborne Division at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, while he held up two thumbs and grinned.

I have already heard, and heard reports of, conservative Christians expressing the opinion that we should pray for the troops being deployed to the Middle East. We should pray for their safety, pray that they be kept out of harm’s way, pray that they avenge the attacks on the American embassy in Iraq, pray that they neutralize the threats to the United States, and pray that they get the terrorists before they get us.

A more shameful prayer has never been uttered.

U.S. soldiers are invaders, occupiers, destroyers, aggressors, and killers. As a conservative Christian, I cannot in good conscience pray for their safety or the success of their mission. And I fail to see how any Christian can.

The fact that U.S. troops are young and dumb, just obeying orders, are ignorant of U.S. military interventions for the past 200 years, don’t draft the rules of engagement, don’t make U.S. foreign policy, can’t just quit their job, don’t get to vote on whether the United States should intervene militarily, or just joined the military because they couldn’t find a job is immaterial.

Christians should not pray for the safety or the mission of the troops when they fight unnecessary, immoral, offensive, unjust, foreign wars.

Christians should not pray for the safety or the mission of the troops when they intervene militarily based on lies.

Christians should not pray for the safety or the mission of the troops when they fight “in a region and in a string of backwater countries that have virtually no bearing on homeland security, safety and liberty?”

Christians should not pray for the safety or the mission of the troops when help carry out a reckless, belligerent, and meddling U.S. foreign policy.

Christians should not pray for the safety or the mission of the troops when they fight against a country that is “zero threat to the American homeland.”

Doing these things is like praying for a member of a criminal gang or the Mafia while they “shake down” a store owner, “send a message” to a rival, or commit acts of violence.

A military uniform does not magically transform evil into good.

But does not the Bible say that “supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; (1 Timothy 2:1)?

Okay then, if you want to pray for the troops, then here are some things you can pray for:

Pray that they stop fighting immoral and unjust wars.
Pray that they don’t make widows and orphans.
Pray that they stop killing civilians.
Pray that they stop being a pawn of the Pentagon.
Pray that they engage in defense and not offense.
Pray that they stop intervening in other countries.
Pray that they stop serving as the president’s personnel attack force.
Pray that they cease being a global force for evil.
Pray that they stop policing the world.
Pray that they don’t reenlist.
Pray that they come home, permanently.

And especially for now, pray that they will have the moral courage to say enough is enough, I refuse to deploy to another country and fight for Uncle Sam.

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#1. To: Ada, 4, NeoconsNailed, Cynicom, Pinguinite, Former or Current US Servicemen (#0)

This essay is the kind of thread which could have a thousand posts at a larger forum (yeah, like FR or Breitbart.)

If you check it out, in it the accomplished author (Laurence M. Vance) engages in *some* absolute truths -- but also a litany of half-truths, and...troubling embarrassing claims and lies which demonstrate a sickening lack of empathy and understanding of those who've served in the US military.

(TO THOSE WHO *HAVE* SERVED, WHAT SAY YOU?)

Would alleged "Christian" author, Laurence M. Vance, NOT "pray" for the the Lord's protection of *his* son in a war zone? OR for HIS nephew? HIS grandson??

Haven't U.S. soldiers always believed what they are told -- that their mission, their obligation, and their honor as well as nation's honor and safety are what's at stake?

How can any blame be put to those honorable U.S. troops and servicemen who've been told they "serve" America -- with righteousness and honor? Why is it their fault that they might have been duped or used as tools to support the bloody lies and dark motives of the Globalist ruling class and the Military/Industrial Complex?

I believe the author is way outta line.

FACT: A vast super majority of all American fighting forces have *always* believed they are righteously "protecting" America and Americans back home...AND battling "evil."

But because they have been programmed to believe their President, their Govt, their history books, their commanders, their dads (that the above is indeed THE case -- much like 95% of those American troops in WW1, WW2, Korea and Vietnam), why on earth would we NOT "pray" for The Almighty to ensure the safety of our sons? AND for "success" of their mission?

Okay then, if you want to pray for the troops, then here are some things you can pray for:

Pray that they stop fighting immoral and unjust wars.
Pray that they don’t make widows and orphans.
Pray that they stop killing civilians.
Pray that they stop being a pawn of the Pentagon.
Pray that they engage in defense and not offense.
Pray that they stop intervening in other countries.
Pray that they stop serving as the president’s personnel attack force.
Pray that they cease being a global force for evil.
Pray that they stop policing the world.
Pray that they don’t reenlist.
Pray that they come home, permanently.

MUCH better.

I get the author's frustration with US Military Interventionism...

BUT... he still doesn't understand the full situation given the Elites' propaganda machine, programming & mind-control manipulation that's affected us ALL.

Liberator  posted on  2020-01-14   13:25:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Liberator, HAPPY2BME-4UM (#1)

Was this also true of Nazi troops, great person? And the Japs who perpetrated the Rape of Nanking?

Was it just as right to pray for those that bombed Pearl Harbor, shot people desperately trying to pass the iron curtain, and crushed Hungary in 1956?

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2020-01-14   14:32:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: NeoconsNailed (#4)

Was this also true of Nazi troops, great person? And the Japs who perpetrated the Rape of Nanking?

What part of "US" Troops did you miss, inquiring-person?

Was it just as right to pray for those that bombed Pearl Harbor, shot people desperately trying to pass the iron curtain, and crushed Hungary in 1956?

(See Above)

EXCEPTIONS:

It WAS ok for members of the Federation to pray for the Romulans and Klingons.

Liberator  posted on  2020-01-15   9:50:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Liberator (#6) (Edited)

What part of "US" Troops did you miss, inquiring-person?

Thus my question -- why only American troops. All troops everywhere think they're fighting for the right, are gambling on surviving and collecting big benefits, are stupidly looking for adventure, or were forced into it.

Is it wrong to pray that the "wars" go so badly that ameriKa learns its lesson and stops sending their "young and dumb" people to fight in them? It's our only hope of peace this side of DC running out of money, i.e. the massive crash that's been warned of for so long.

DC is never going to stop them voluntarily. They're a massively profitable business. I fear ameriKa is truthfully going to go down as the most violent country in history -- not the most wonderful as it loves to imagine. John McCain said to expect a 100-year-war, longer than the USSR's lifespan.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2020-01-15   10:12:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: NeoconsNailed, Ada (#8)

Thus my question -- why only American troops.

Because THEY are the subject of our premise.

All troops everywhere think they're fighting for the right, are gambling on surviving and collecting big benefits, are stupidly looking for adventure, or were forced into it.

True.

Is it wrong to pray that the "wars" go so badly that ameriKa learns its lesson and stops sending their "young and dumb" people to fight in them? It's our only hope of peace, this side of DC running out of money, i.e. the massive crash that's been warned of for so long.

Nobody is defending war-adventurism, interventionism or hoax wars.

THAT said, whomever serves in the US military is told they/we will only fight "righteous" wars. In ANY case, we/I shall pray for their safety and NOT for their death. YOU and Ada can pray/NOT pray as your prerogative.

DC is never going to stop them voluntarily. They're a massively profitable business.

Many are awakening to that realization; But it does NOT mean that we stop praying for the safety of our people who serve who believe they are supporting freedom and fighting the righteous fight.

MOREOVER...You have to understand that the US Military has been hijacked by the Globalist-Industrial Complex and their New World Order (so saith Poppy Bush in 1991), ergo their mission and MO ever since.

Liberator  posted on  2020-01-15   10:30:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Liberator (#9)

MOREOVER...You have to understand that the US Military has been hijacked by the Globalist-Industrial Complex and their New World Order (so saith Poppy Bush in 1991), ergo their mission and MO ever since.

Its time this was stopped. IMO, of course.

Ada  posted on  2020-01-15   10:56:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#13. To: Ada (#11)

I agree wholeheartedly.

Liberator  posted on  2020-01-15 14:43:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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