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Title: Why Laws Against Hate Speech Are Dangerous
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URL Source: https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/15256/hate-speech-laws
Published: Jan 20, 2020
Author: Fjordman
Post Date: 2020-01-20 09:06:33 by Ada
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There is a tendency, to censor certain viewpoints because they might "offend" others. The problem is, it is not the inoffensive things that need protecting; it is only the offensive things that do.... Freedom of speech exists precisely to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority.

"[T]he freedom of Speech may be taken away, and, dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep, to the Slaughter." — US President George Washington, 1783.

How come it is all right to publish the original source, prescribing murder, but that it is "hate speech" to point out that quote?

"Sometimes, when one points out these rules, people will respond: 'Well, the Bible says such-and-such.' The point is not that these things are written in Islamic scripture, but that people still live by them." — Bruce Bawer, February 8, 2018.

Restrictions against "hate speech" often do not really ban hate speech; instead they may actually be protecting certain forms of hate speech against legitimate inquiry.

"For if Men are to be precluded from offering their Sentiments on a matter, which may involve the most serious and alarming consequences... reason is of no use to us; the freedom of Speech may be taken away, and, dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep, to the Slaughter." — US President George Washington, 1783. (Original Artwork: Engraving by Nathaniel Currier, circa 1780. Photo by MPI/Getty Images)

In November 2019, Germans celebrated the collapse of the Berlin Wall and the reunification of Germany 30 years earlier. That same month, Chancellor Angela Merkel, in a speech to the German federal parliament (Bundestag), advocated more restrictions on free speech for all Germans. She warned that free speech has limits:

"Those limits begin where hatred is spread. They begin where the dignity of other people is violated. This house will and must oppose extreme speech. Otherwise, our society will no longer be the free society that it was."

Merkel received great applause.

Critics, however, would claim that curtailing freedom in order to protect freedom sounds a bit Orwellian. One of the first acts of any tyrant or repressive regime is usually to abolish freedom of speech. Merkel should know this: she lived under a repressive regime -- in the communist dictatorship of East Germany, where she studied at Karl Marx University.

The First Amendment to the United States Constitution protects freedom of speech, specifically speech critical of the government, and prohibits the state from limiting free speech. The First Amendment was placed first in the Bill of Rights because the American Founding Fathers realized that freedom of speech is fundamental to a free society. US President George Washington said:

"For if Men are to be precluded from offering their Sentiments on a matter, which may involve the most serious and alarming consequences... reason is of no use to us; the freedom of Speech may be taken away, and, dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep, to the Slaughter."

Without freedom of speech, you cannot truly be free. Freedom of speech exists precisely to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority.

What exactly is "hate speech," and who gets to define it? Those who love justice usually also hate injustice. But what is justice? Social justice? Economic justice? Ecological justice? Religious fundamentalist justice? Climate justice?

Hate may be a negative emotion, but you cannot ban emotions. Envy and jealousy are also widely considered negative feelings. Yet we do not ban them. Envy of people who are wealthier than you is arguably a component of Socialist and Marxist political parties everywhere.

The concept of a "hate crime" is also flawed. If you rob, assault or murder people, that is equally injurious regardless of the motivation of the assailant or of who the victim is. We should not have different penalties depending upon whether the victim is a gay black man, a straight white man, a Muslim woman or a Christian nun, or we will end up with a kind of a legal caste system.

Although the legal system should not be based on feelings or emotions, we see an increasing tendency toward this subjectivity. There is a tendency to censor certain viewpoints because they might "offend" others. The problem is, it is not the inoffensive things that need protecting; it is only the offensive things that do. When, in the US, the National Socialist Party of America wanted to march though Skokie, Illinois, home to many Holocaust survivors, the Supreme Court decided that the Nazis' right of free speech overrode suppressing the marchers. According to the Bill of Rights Institute:

"In these cases, National Socialist Party of America v. Village of Skokie (1977), and Brandenburg v. Ohio (1968), the Supreme Court held that the First Amendment protects individuals' rights to express their views, even if those views are considered extremely offensive by most people...

"American writer Noam Chomsky said 'If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all.' Individuals who express unpopular opinions are protected by the First Amendment. The First Amendment prevents majorities from silencing views with which they do not agree—even views that the majority of people find offensive to their very core. "

Possibly many things people say will be considered offensive to somebody, somewhere. In 1600, Giordano Bruno was burned alive at the stake as a heretic for saying that the universe has no center, and stars are suns, surrounded by planets and moons. The findings of Charles Darwin were challenged by the "Scopes Monkey Trial" in 1925, when a high-school teacher in Tennessee, John T. Scopes, was charged with violating state law by teaching the theory of human evolution.

Just a few years ago, it was uncontroversial to state that there are only two biological sexes. After all, this is a fact that would seem pretty straightforward. Yet recently, even this simple statement has become explosive. When the tennis champion Martina Navratilova questioned the fairness of having transgender men compete in sports again women, but was eventually driven to "apologize."

In the UK, a physician, David Mackereth, recently lost his government job as a medical assessor after more than three decades for refusing to renounce his view that gender is determined at birth.

People who claim to combat "hate" often seem to be quite full of hate themselves. Some Americans claim that US President Donald J. Trump is a racist, yet themselves express open hatred toward Trump, and those who vote for him. They do not object to hating. They just seem to believe that their hate is the only legitimate one.

In 2013, the American scholar Robert Spencer was banned by British authorities from entering the UK. Spencer the author of many books about Islam and runs the website Jihad Watch.

The Koran sura 9:5 has verse stating:

"When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. If they repent and take to prayer and render the alms levy, allow them to go their way. God is forgiving and merciful."

The exact translation of this verse can be debated, but the Arabic verb qatala generally means to kill, slay or murder somebody. How come it is all right to publish the original source, prescribing murder, but that it is "hate speech" to point out that quote?

Robert Spencer and others have observed, for instance, that verse 9:5 and other intolerant verses in the Koran have been quoted repeatedly by militant Muslims to justify jihad attacks and violence (for instance here, here and here). Although other religious books also contain violence, as the scholar Bruce Bawer points out:

"Sometimes, when one points out these rules, people will respond: 'Well, the Bible says such-and-such.' The point is not that these things are written in Islamic scripture, but that people still live by them."

Muslims in Britain and other Western nations are free to spread teachings that are hateful towards non-Muslims. Yet because non-Muslims such as Robert Spencer pointed out that some teachings are hateful and have inspired actual atrocities, UK authorities banned Spencer for spreading "hate."

One sees, then, that restrictions against "hate speech" often do not really ban hate speech; instead they may actually be protecting certain forms of hate speech against legitimate inquiry.

Laws against "hate speech" and "racism" always lead to political censorship, because the definition of what constitutes "hate" is always influenced by politics and ideology. Laws against hate speech or racism should therefore be removed. No person has the right "not to be offended." Freedom of speech means saying and hearing things with which you may disagree. What remains important is to be able to say and hear them.

Fjordman, a Norwegian historian, is an expert on Europe, Islam and multiculturalism.

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#1. To: Ada, 4 (#0)

No person has the right "not to be offended"...

...the definition of what constitutes "hate" is always influenced by politics and ideology.

EXACTAMUNDO.

Have you noticed it so happens that political and ideological subversives and LIARS -- obviously MOST affected by criminalizing legitimate open inquiries, investigations, AND truth -- are only ones who benefit from so-called "HATE" designations?

Funny how that's worked out. (well...not really, is it?)

This rigged designation, this illegal dysfunction desperately needs to be wiped off the books ASAP! Otherwise the USCON, LE, and US GUMMINT will be disrespected & discredited...

(OH WAIT -- TOO LATE.)

Liberator  posted on  2020-01-20   13:19:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Ada, 4 (#0)

Muslims in Britain and other Western nations are free to spread teachings that are hateful towards non-Muslims. (aka Christians, "Infidels," and native citizenry.)

How did THIS happen??

Didn't MSM, Merkel and the EU LIE, then brainwash/guilt their own citizen Sheeple into this disaster?

Few today even bother reminding the rest of us WHY or HOW tens of millions of Middle Eastern Muzzies were transported into safe, thriving, sovereign European nations to sabotage them (back to the reason for "Hate" Speech & Crimes: CENSORSHIP OF TRUTH.)

Within barely a decade, these marauding invading Muzzie armies (invited by absolutely NO CITIZENRY) quickly infected, destroyed and hijacked existing local, provincial and national culture and customs.

(Do you all remember how the entire West was gaslighted by the MSM as well as western leaders -- including 0bama --into believing the reason for tens of millions Muzzie "refugees" Muzzies wound up in Western Europe? Weren't We The Sheeple told this unprecedented mass migration was the result of Middle East "wars"? (and everybody bought this bogus BS.)

Even IF that notion is believed .001%, then who's fault was any of it?

Liberator  posted on  2020-01-20   13:42:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: All (#2)

QUESTION:

Exactly who designated the Academe, Homo-Fascists and ADL to be society's arbiters of "Hate" speech??

And now they are criminalizing "Offensive" speech under our nose -- as well as "Dangerous" speech designation. Is it the fascist-authoritarian America-hating tech giants of Silicon Valley who actually legislate behind the Orwellian scenes?

It's time we demand the name-less, face-less, un-elected PTB come out from out of their demonic shadows and reveal themselves.

BIG QUESTION #1:

Why haven't any cases of "hate/offensive/dangerous speech" been challenged at the Supreme Court level? (Moreover, isn't "HATE" ostensibly a "crime" that is purely arbitrary and merely a blatant case of mind-reading?)

BIG QUESTION #2:

IF "Hate" is actually a so-called legal "crime," then what is the 1A all about?

WHY are "Hate" Speech and "Hate" Laws sanctioned BY THE STATE in the first place? Given these statutes are ONLY enforced AGAINST: WHITES; MALES; CONSERVATIVES; TRUMP-VOTERS; CHRISTIANS, when does the Dept of Justice go to bat and defend the 1A for ALL Americans??

THE TRUTH:

"Hate" Speech & "Hate" Crimes are designed to be weaponized against those (yes, call them "Truthers") who expose Lies & Liars, and those who help cover for them.

High Time for President Trump to direct his DoJ to challenge ALL existing anti-1A, anti-liberty "Hate" Crimes & Speech as un-Constitutional...

Otherwise NONE of the President's bally-hooed trade deals, low unemployment, and "MAGA" hats and talk mean a d*mn thing.

Liberator  posted on  2020-01-20   13:44:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Liberator (#1)

Ah -- you're still here. Don't scare us like that! ;)

In addition to all the other wit and wisdom here assembled, let's remember that the hateful 'hate crimes' concept was hatched in a jew conference at Hofstra Juniversity in the 1980s. I read of it in Instauration and thought "thank god, that has to be in the category of bad news that never comes true". But oh boy has it, and it always stinks of gefiltefish.

I am persuaded that jews have in effect a group mind, and they pull massive scam and heists on the public as one beast. For instance, the famous jusician John Lennon paved the way, consciously or otherwise, for hate crimes laws by patterning generations of sheeple in the idea that hate is ipso facto wrong. "All you need is love", goes one ditty. Another goes "But if you want money for people with minds that hate / All I can tell is brother you have to wait.

Hate isn't intrinsically good or bad -- even the Bible says to hate what's hateful. The Psalmist boasts to God of hating his enemies. People incapable of hate are drugged or fatally brainwashed -- they may live a normal lifespan but their society is down for the count.

Jewish tribal leadership ARE PROFESSIONAL LIARS and they do indeed fear exposure. Lies are all they want their millions of dupes to have to go on in order to maintain tribal paranoia and polarize them against the hated goyim. Don't let anybody tell you the rank and file are innocent, because jews that don't go to tumple, live in Israel or send shekels to the Auntie Defecation League go along with the agenda a little too blithely.

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NeoconsNailed  posted on  2020-01-20   23:03:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Liberator, neoconsnailed (#3)

Why haven't any cases of "hate/offensive/dangerous speech" been challenged at the Supreme Court level?

AFAIK hate speech is not actually a crime although people have been fired or expelled for it.

The "hate" sentencing enhancement for real crimes, as you say, has not yet reached SCOTUS and I do wonder why.

Ada  posted on  2020-01-21   10:51:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: NeoconsNailed, 4 Christians (#4)

I am persuaded that jews have in effect a group mind, and they pull massive scam and heists on the public as one beast....

Jewish tribal leadership ARE PROFESSIONAL LIARS and they do indeed fear exposure. Lies are all they want their millions of dupes to have to go on in order to maintain tribal paranoia and polarize them against the hated goyim.

Really interesting, articulate breakdown. Your post probably deserves its own thread. (clever quote by John Lennon, btw. Talk about a confused guy.)

This convo and related subject matter can actually be branched off into several tangents on the subject. (Most of which would never see the light of day at most forums.)

We've now entered obvious "Us vs. Goyim" territorial war these days. Does it appear that certain J-Elements in power are indeed leading the charge in Media/Entertainment/Educational to make it fashionable to hate, ridicule & kneecap Christianity? As well as Jesus and God IN PUBLIC?? (and why isn't "hate" of Christianity frowned upon, or...considered "Hate" Speech??)

So yes -- it appears the "J' hive-phenomena and mentality is obvious and more than ever in all our face (see Hollywood/Sports Team owners/Business Owners/Academia/US Congress/Senate Hearings.)

NN, I don't see Talmudic J's "fearing" exposure; They are now to the point where... they actually BOAST ABOUT IT.

("Beast" is an interesting characterization, given some of Jesus scriptural quotes directed at the Pharisees.) There no hiding it. International Jewish Leadership seems to have sabotaged Western Christian Civ, celebrating its demise -- at times in private, but also in public.

As well as in public as one clean, mean fighting Machine, they understanding that their sum is far greater, more powerful than the parts. There is NO question who and what they consider their "Biggest Enemy" (HINT: NOT Islam.)

On the subject of identity, the following questions RARELY asked:

Is "Jewish" a "Nationality"? "Ethnicity"? Or, "Religion"?

(Yes, a bit confusing, isn't it? But not to someone like Soros, who will never max-out his "anti-Semite!" Card.)

"Jewish" self-identity apparently depends on the individual. AND whether Power/ Immunity/ $$ is a benefit.

The "Hive-Mentality" or tribalist mind-set doesn't always work nor apply. BUT...it is indeed in effect AT THE TOP OF THE POWER STRUCTURE.

Here's a another seldom asked question: From whom or what source are the morals & ethics of Jewish Leadership AND Religion?

This one is more disturbing and telling; If it's the Talmud, that would explain the outright historical hostility and contempt toward the Goyim, the Christian. And who and what that fork in the "Judaism" Road most have taken.

At worst, they worship the same illegitimate authority and beliefs of Pharisees who despised Jesus Christ. As we recall in Scripture, Jesus was forced to constantly rebuke the Pharisees as "hypocrites," "blind, false teachers and (John 8:44) "...of the [your] father, the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father."

Whoa.

Thus...Given their hatred of Jesus Christ (the Talmid speaks of Him is horrible, demonic terms), it should NOT be surprising that they would operate in this world OPPOSITE to the Western-Christian World. (It is also noted that Jews who Convert are ostracized and THE most hated by...OTHER JEWS.)

There is also no question that as Talmudic-J elements are in positions of world power. There is also no question that they have manipulated the levers to rig The Game, are most responsible for devising the world's "Divide & Conquer" tactic, polarize peoples, create paranoia, and create tribalism to the nth degree.

Hate isn't intrinsically good or bad -- even the Bible says to hate what's hateful. The Psalmist boasts to God of hating his enemies. People incapable of hate are drugged or fatally brainwashed -- they may live a normal lifespan but their society is down for the count.

Well, isn't that true of Psalms and Ecclesiastes; In seasons there is also a "time to hate." (Tangent: Does this mention give the Secularists and Bible-Haters an excuse to ban the Bible, based on Scripture that mentions "hate"??)

Now THOSE dynamics ("people incapable of hate") is something I've never considered. Shouldn't "Evil" be "hated"?? Yes -- a "Live and let live" brainwashed-secular mentality would indeed allow evil to flourish, wouldn't it?

Don't let anybody tell you the rank and file are innocent, because jews that don't go to temple, live in Israel or send shekels to the Auntie Defecation League go along with the agenda a little too blithely.

Gotta tell ya, NN -- I have been great friends with Jewish people; we can't can't lump ALL Jews into that one singular camp. Many are not privy to, care about, OR even allowed into that Talmudic-J power structure. Some even seriously consider The Gospel (as already mentioned, risking serious ostracizing.)

That said, your point is well taken. Most Jews -- regardless of cultist, anti-Christ immersion in the Talmud -- actually believe the lie that the subversive ADL forever advances: "Fighting for equality of all", and the perpetual victim/chip-on-the shoulder, "NEVER AGAIN" mantra.

Liberator  posted on  2020-01-21   11:34:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Ada, NeoconsNailed (#5)

AFAIK hate speech is not actually a crime although people have been fired or expelled for it.

Perhaps not an "official" a "crime" legislatively...

Yet as you note, people have indeed been fired/expelled (ostracized/censored/made to recant) for this so-called "Hate-Speech." "Hate Speech" = Thought Crime.

The First Amendment is fully under attack. As is Common Sense.

Liberator  posted on  2020-01-21   11:38:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Ada, NeoconsNailed (#5)

The "hate" sentencing enhancement for real crimes, as you say, has not yet reached SCOTUS and I do wonder why.

Indeed.

Liberator  posted on  2020-01-21   11:39:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Liberator, 4 (#7)

The First Amendment is fully under attack. As is Common Sense.

Bottom line truth, insane inmates running the asylum.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2020-01-21   14:18:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Lod (#9)

That's why it is essential to close ranks from this upside-down world (Satan's) and reject it and its upside down values as much as possible.

Liberator  posted on  2020-01-21   17:12:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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