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Title: There May Be an Ancient Earth Inside Earth, Say Harvard Scientists
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URL Source: https://ultraculture.org/blog/2014/06/13/ancient-earth/
Published: Jan 25, 2020
Author: Andrei Burke
Post Date: 2020-01-25 09:27:20 by Ada
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Views: 5063
Comments: 85

Ancient Earth A team of Harvard scientists believe the remnants of an ancient Earth that date to the time another planet collided with ours to produce the moon may still be lodged deep within the Earth’s mantle

If you thought it was a trip to see the Earth from space, then wait until you get a load of this: A team of scientists from Harvard University believe that have found evidence that an ancient Earth exists inside our planet. The team believes that a previously unexplained isotopic ratio from deep within the Earth might be a signal from material from before our world collided with another planet-sized body, which led to the creation of the Moon. This might be an echo of an ancient Earth that existed 4.5 billion years ago, prior to the proposed collision.

The current favored theory says that the Moon was formed 4.5 billion years ago when the Earth collided with a mass the size of Mars, dubbed “Theia.” This theory states that the heat generated by the collision would have melted the whole planet before some of the debris spun off to create the Moon.

But now, the team at Harvard, led by Associate Professor Sujoy Mukhopadhyay, believe that they’ve found evidence to support that only part of the Earth melted, and that an ancient part still exists within the planet’s mantle.

According to Professor Mukhopadhyay: “The energy released by the impact between the Earth and Theia would have been huge, certainly enough to melt the whole planet. But we believe that the impact energy was not evenly distributed throughout the ancient Earth. This means that a major part of the impacted hemisphere would probably have been completely vaporized, but the opposite hemisphere would have been partly shielded, and would not have undergone complete melting.”

The team analyzed the ratios of noble gas isotopes from deep within the Earth’s mantle and compared the results to isotope ratios closer to the surface. They found that 3He to 22Ne ratio from the shallow mantle is significantly higher than the equivalent ratio deep within the mantle.

Professor Mukhopadhyay remarked: “This implies that the last giant impact did not completely mix the mantle and there was not a whole mantle magma ocean.”

Further evidence comes from analysis of the 129-Xenon to 120-Xenon ratio. Material brought to the surface from the deep mantle has a lower ratio than what’s normally found near the surface. Because 129-Xenon is produced by the radioactive decay of 129-Iodine, the isotopes place the formation age of the ancient section of mantle to within the first 100 million years of Earth’s history.

“The geochemistry indicates that there are differences between the noble gas isotope ratios in different parts of the the planet, and these need to be explained. The idea that a very disruptive collision of the Earth with another planet-sized body, the biggest event in our planet’s geological history, did not completely melt and homogenize the Earth challenges some of our notions on planet formation and the energetics of giant impacts. If the theory is proven correct, then we may be seeing echoes of the ancient Earth, from a time before the collision,” said Professor Mukhopadhyay.

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Professor Richard Carlson of the Carnegie Institution Department of Terrestrial Magnetism stated: “This exciting result is adding to the observational evidence that important aspects of Earth’s composition were established during the violent birth of the planet and is providing a new look at the physical processes by which this can occur.”

The findings of the team at Harvard coincide with a German team’s findings supporting the theory that the Moon was formed 4.5 billion years ago after a catastrophic collision with a planet-sized mass.

What was this ancient Earth? Was there life there? We hope new findings about the ancient Earth will come out as quickly as possible, so we can discover more about the ancient history of our world.

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#1. To: Ada, All (#0)

The findings of the team at Harvard coincide with a German team’s findings supporting the theory that the Moon was formed 4.5 billion years ago after a catastrophic collision with a planet-sized mass.

I *almost* overlooked this news "discovery" (from blogger)...

(btw, aren't "Findings" AND "Theory" two totally separate concepts?)

How does anyone (or "geochemistry") validate the DATE of this supposed event, as well as the alleged TIMING?

The so-called "FINDINGS":

a) Moon Formation finding
b) Lunar Collision with a "planet-sized mass" finding
c) Finding of an Event that happened 4.5 BILLION YEARS ago (measured with surety)

Here is how the Lab Coats from Harvard and the German Team explained their discovery:

"[The] 3He to 22Ne ratio from the shallow mantle is significantly higher than the equivalent ratio deep within the mantle."

*nodding*

Not to be outdone, Professor Richard Carlson from the 'Carnegie Institution Department of Terrestrial Magnetism':

"This exciting result is adding to the observational evidence that important aspects of Earth’s composition were established during the violent birth of the planet and is providing a new look at the physical processes by which this can occur.”

No word on whether Prof Carlsen was sporting the lab coat (seen below) as he explained the "observational evidence" of that time he watched this Moon collision 4.5 billion years ago. (Hope this guy is never your court witness.)

Btw, order your NASA labcoat for your grandson or grand-daughter from Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/Aeromax-NASA-Rocket-Scientist-White/dp/B01AC1I210

Liberator  posted on  2020-01-25   15:15:29 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Liberator (#1)

The Strange “Hollow Earth” Case of Admiral Richard Byrd

“There comes a time when the rationality of men must fade into insignificance and one must accept the inevitability of the Truth! I am not at liberty to disclose the following documentation at this writing…perhaps it shall never see the light of public scrutiny, but I must do duty and record here for all to read one day. In a world of greed and exploitation of mankind can no longer suppress that which is truth.”

Medal of Honor recipient Admiral Richard E. Byrd allegedly wrote his encounter with a lost civilization in Antarctica. According to Hollow Earth theorists, Byrd met ancient race underground in the South Pole.

How was this left out from Byrd’s mission: Operation Highjump? Could it be one big hoax conspiracy theorists love to fantasize?

According to Byrd’s “diary,” the government ordered Byrd to remain silent for what he witnessed during his Arctic assignment:

March 11, 1947

“I have just attended a Staff Meeting at the Pentagon. I have stated fully my discovery and the message from the Master. All is duly recorded. The President has been advised. I am now detained for several hours (six hours, thirty- nine minutes, to be exact.) I am interviewed intently by Top Security Forces and a Medical Team. It was an ordeal!!!! I am placed under strict control via the National Security provisions of this United States of America. I am ORDERED TO REMAIN SILENT IN REGARD TO ALL THAT I HAVE LEARNED, ON THE BEHALF OF HUMANITY!!! Incredible! I am reminded that I am a Military Man and I must obey orders.”

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

Bill D Berger  posted on  2020-01-25   18:26:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Bill D Berger (#2)

quite a bit of hollow earth stuff out there

www.ourhollowearth.com/Bernard/Chapter1.htm

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2020-01-25   21:54:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Lod, Liberator (#3)

I find this hollow earth theory far more believable than flat earth.

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

Bill D Berger  posted on  2020-01-26   4:54:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Bill D Berger (#4)

I find this hollow earth theory far more believable than flat earth.

It's at least possible.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2020-01-26   7:44:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Liberator (#1)

What are the dimensions of flat earth LxWxH as compared with the dimensions of round earth? thanks much.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2020-01-26   8:29:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Liberator (#1)

Indulge me. The video is ten minutes. If you're attention ain't captured in 3 minutes then it ain't but if it is, if it is, it's only ten minutes.

The color coded time stamps of the ocean core samples are really neat imho but if you'll indulge me I offer you this for your consideration.

youtu.be/3HDb9Ijynfo

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Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) If you don't control your mind someone else will.

titorite  posted on  2020-01-26   8:35:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Lod (#3)

quite a bit of hollow earth stuff out there

Lot of HOLLOW headed people walking around out there.

Myself, I think the world is shaped like a dumb bell. Yes I do, really.

Proof? People use to call me dumbell when I was young...

Cynicom  posted on  2020-01-26   8:37:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Cynicom (#8)

Maybe you'd be a flatter had they called you blockhead, or a cereal-bowler were you a mush-head. And then there are the pin-headers and the mutton-headers.

Maybe the Nazis are thriving under Antarctica...

I need to go feed pooch to clear my head.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2020-01-26   8:47:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Lod (#9)

I need to go feed pooch to clear my head.

Real headache...Fly across the International Date line, back and forth in one day.

As a dumbell kid, I got really confused.

Cynicom  posted on  2020-01-26   8:59:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Cynicom (#10)

Fly across the International Date line, back and forth in one day.

Changing my watch back and forth would have been plenty confusing.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2020-01-26   9:06:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Bill D Berger, Lod, titorite, NeoconsNailed (#2)

The Strange “Hollow Earth” Case of Admiral Richard Byrd, who, quote:

"I must do duty and record here for all to read one day. In a world of greed and exploitation of mankind can no longer suppress that which is truth."

Byrd was an honorable man...

YET, we've often noted what happens to honorable men and/or those who dare tell the truth about ANYTHING "un-approved" by "The Authoritahs".

Btw, BDB, I actually read all your links -- including "Hollow Earth" and Admiral Byrd's diary. (same of your link on Hollow Earth, Lod. Fascinating.)

This follow up on Admiral Byrd's Antarctica excursions and aftermath was also riveting.

So WHERE lies is THE Truth?? Is it 100%? 75%? 50%? 2%?

**NOTE: My initial objection and ridicule of the original submitted story (from Harvard), was about the MSM/Academe's usual conflation of blending Absurdity WITH Possibility, so that an entire premise gets discredited. Discard the BS (about the 4.5b moon-earth collision), and there IS some meat on that bone.

There actually is so much to discuss, but for now I'll quote only the one above; It is curious in that the same US Gummint who silenced Byrd on March 11, 1947 (see below), allowing him to first be a guest on a Longines-sponsored TV show in 1954, THEN in the next year 1955-1956, they STILL allowed Byrd to lead yet another expedition BACK to Antarctica in what was to be called, 'OPERATION: DEEP FREEZE.' (RIP Byrd in 1957.)

THIS is the entire interview. Watch Byrd's body language, reaction, and how carefully he answers questions. (at certain junctures he struggles to NOT divulge too much. Notice also how he tried to back-track on his "Uranium" comment.)

Impressions?

Admiral Byrd led FIVE expeditions to the Antarctica in total. WAS his diary legit? If so, it means our realm is definitely NOT what we've been told.

Byrd: (March 11, 1947)

“I have just attended a Staff Meeting at the Pentagon. I have stated fully my discovery and the message from the Master. All is duly recorded...

I am ORDERED TO REMAIN SILENT IN REGARD TO ALL THAT I HAVE LEARNED, ON THE BEHALF OF HUMANITY!!! Incredible! I am reminded that I am a Military Man and I must obey orders.”

Liberator  posted on  2020-01-26   11:16:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Lod, Bill D Berger (#3)

www.ourhollowearth.com/Bernard/Chapter1.htm

Have you guys read any of the above link? (it helps if you are able to dismiss and disregard the entire NASA charade.)

Anyway...Mind-boggling.

So...

ARE the globe-MAPS and its obvious represented "ends" wrong? IS it possible we've been lied to by the PTB?

NO aircraft is allowed to fly directly over the North Pole. THAT is correct and true info.

NO aircraft is allowed to fly over Antarctica (and especially its alleged "Pole".) FACT.

FWIW, I own Giannini's book, "Worlds Beyond the Poles". Some of the content is plausible, some not; Maybe I'll have to review it again and re-examine given the additional corroboration by Byrd and his expeditions.

(I'll comment more in detail later...)

Liberator  posted on  2020-01-26   11:26:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Lod, titorite, Bill D Berger (#6) (Edited)

What are the dimensions of flat earth LxWxH as compared with the dimensions of round earth?

The truth?

WE DON'T KNOW.

No independent exploration has been permitted in Antarctica since 1959.

The gummints of the world expect us all to accept what we've been told (sound familiar??)

With respect to "depth," again, NOT KNOWN, no know measurement is possible.

With respect to "Expanding Earth," the extent of our realm is (incredibly) UNKNOWN.

NASA was created in 1958 to help dispel any and all notions and challenges to the Heliocentric model, and of course -- THE spinning "GLOBE".

They took ONE supposed photo of the earth from afar (The famous "EARTHRISE") during FIVE Apollo missions. Again: ONE single photo. THAT alone is beyond conspicuous, isn't it?

Liberator  posted on  2020-01-26   11:34:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Liberator (#12)

"...the message from the Master..."

Any ideas on who/what was/is "the Master?"

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2020-01-26   13:23:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Liberator (#13)

NO aircraft is allowed to fly directly over the North Pole.

Then why do the B-52s fly in that area armed with their nuclear cruise missiles? ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2020-01-26   16:24:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: BTP Holdings (#16)

more on crossing the north pole

aviation.stackexchange.co...ss-directly-over-the-pole

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2020-01-26   17:31:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Lod (#9)

I need to go feed pooch to clear my head.

Yeah. Now I don't know if the Earth is a double meatball or a double pancake.

Better get Pizza Hut and IHOP on the case ASAP!

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2020-01-26   19:43:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Lod, Bill D Berger, NeonconsNailed (#15) (Edited)

("...the message from the Master...")

Any ideas on who/what was/is "the Master?"

I wondered about that as well. Turns out its an English "Honorific Title":

(From Wiki)

"Master":

for boys and young men, or as a style for the heir to a Scottish peerage. It may also be used as a professional title, e.g. for the master of a college or the master of a merchant ship.

(sea captain, ship's captain, captain, master, or shipmaster, is a high-grade licensed mariner who holds ultimate command and responsibility of a merchant vessel.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_honorifics

Liberator  posted on  2020-01-27   11:26:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: BTP Holdings, Lod, Bill D Berger, NeoconsNailed, (#16)

Why do the B-52s fly in that area armed with their nuclear cruise missiles? ;)

Key phrase, "in that area".

The Arctic "area" is pretty vast. Yet still, no aircraft flies directly over the pole.

Why not?

The theory is the extreme magnetism emitted from the North Pole Area that could potentially affect electronic instrumentation.

('Aurora Borealis' is a demonstration of charged particles)

OF NOTE:

Polaris, aka "The North Star" is always ascended directly above the North Pole. IT DOES NOT EVER MOVE POSITION.

Liberator  posted on  2020-01-27   11:35:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Liberator (#19)

That makes it even more odd since Byrd was American.

Richard Evelyn Byrd was born on 25 October 1888 in Winchester, Virginia.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2020-01-27   11:40:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Lod (#17)

I read your link...

There were a couple decent explanations...UNTIL I arrived at this blatant disinfo:

"It is possible to fly over South Pole as well. In 1977, PanAm 747Sp flew over South Pole while flying from Sydney to Recife. However, South Pole does not lie on the great circle route for too many points."

Two obvious lies.

Liberator  posted on  2020-01-27   11:41:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Liberator (#20)

The theory is the extreme magnetism emitted from the North Pole Area that could potentially affect electronic instrumentation.

But still the magnetic north pole is not the same as the geographic north pole. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2020-01-27   11:43:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Liberator (#20)

The theory is the extreme magnetism emitted from the North Pole Area that could potentially affect electronic instrumentation.

True, but supposedly today's GPS is unaffected by magnetism. (This is about to get over my pay grade.)

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2020-01-27   11:43:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Lod (#21)

That makes it even more odd since Byrd was American.

Yes, American....

But remember -- Byrd was likely schooled in formal English; If you watched and listened to his Longines interview on his Antarctica missions, His language reflected that.

Liberator  posted on  2020-01-27   11:44:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Lod (#24)

True, but supposedly today's GPS is unaffected by magnetism. (This is about to get over my pay grade.)

Heh -- It's already above ALL our "pay grade."

Yet...we'll do the best we can -- which often is MUCH better than The Lab Coats.

From everything I've read -- and yeah, toss Common Sense & Logic into that mix -- it's MAGNETISM issue that prevents North Pole air nav.

Liberator  posted on  2020-01-27   11:47:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Lod (#24)

today's GPS is unaffected by magnetism.

GPS is not affected by magnetism since it uses satellites to pinpoint your position on the surface of Earth. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2020-01-27   11:47:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: BTP Holdings (#23) (Edited)

the magnetic north pole is not the same as the geographic north pole. ;)

The magnetic North Pole is all that matters on a physical realm and contemporary mapping that is now heavily challenged.

Liberator  posted on  2020-01-27   11:49:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: BTP Holdings, Lod (#27)

GPS is not affected by magnetism since it uses satellites to pinpoint your position on the surface of Earth. ;)

a) "Satellites" if anything fly in VERY Low Orbit.

b) Given GPS (of both earthed base and Low Orbit "satellites") pinpoint positioning, we'd have to assume it's far more effective further away from Polar magnetic interference.

(rhetorical): Has anyone actually verified whether GPS works within 50 miles of the magnetic North Pole?

Liberator  posted on  2020-01-27   11:53:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Liberator, BTP Holdings, 4 (#26)

more byrd history and exploits - what an amazing explorer he was

www.britannica.com/biography/Richard-E-Byrd

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2020-01-27   11:57:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: All (#30)

Google maps for North Pole pulled up a big blue screen here.

Maybe I don't know how to use GM...

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2020-01-27   12:03:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Lod, BTP Holdings, Bill D Berger, NeonconsNailed, 4 (#30)

more byrd history and exploits - what an amazing explorer he was

Yup. Byrd was an absolute American legend. The guy was even celebrated down the "Canyon of Heroes" in a ticker-tape parade.

The US military thought so highly of him that he led FIVE expeditions to the Polar regions. (yes, too bad things ended badly/mysteriously.)

(listen briefly to Byrd from 8:07...)

"I think it's important...for us to explore that [Antarctica] area....important for the human race...TO FIND OUT WHAT'S THERE...."

(WE STILL DON'T KNOW. At least 99.9% of us)

**And btw -- WHY explore "Mars" if we still don't really know what lies at the interior of an unexplored Antarctica??**

Liberator  posted on  2020-01-27   12:19:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Lod (#31)

Google maps for North Pole pulled up a big blue screen here.

Sheeeet.

Just imagine the Google Map SNAFU of Antarctica....

Liberator  posted on  2020-01-27   12:21:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Lod, BTP Holdings, Bill D Berger, NeonconsNailed, ALL (#31) (Edited)

This PTB total Black-Out of ANY exploration and mapping and info regarding the Poles and Antarctica reminds me of THIS clip from the 50s flick, 'Angry Red Planet':

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WQTYb36Cew

Liberator  posted on  2020-01-27   12:26:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: All (#34)

The above "WARNING" scene from 'Angry Red Planet' is fascinating on a number of programming levels...

If you notice within the scene -- and just as today -- the Scientists AND Military were joined at the hip.

The Martian "warning" spoke of "primeval slime" that mankind was said to have been borne; IT was and is still advancing the presumptive the Evolution Lie over the Creationist-Biblical Truth.

Liberator  posted on  2020-01-27   12:32:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Liberator (#35)

Great, great, stuff, especially your witness for Christianity.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2020-01-27   13:08:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Lod (#31)

Google maps for North Pole pulled up a big blue screen here.

Maybe because there's no land mass, just ice there?

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2020-01-27   14:17:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Liberator (#28)

The magnetic North Pole is all that matters on a physical realm and contemporary mapping that is now heavily challenged.

Really? And have you tried to look up any information about how GPS works? ;)

www.quora.com/Does-GPS-us...netic-north-or-true-North

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2020-01-27   14:42:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Lod, James Deffenbach (#36)

Great, great, stuff, especially your witness for Christianity.

Thanks, brutha. I appreciate the kind words and encouragement.

Knowledge is great, knowledge is essential, knowledge is important -- BUT, is Knowledge THE most important thing in our lives? (remember how Eve was convinced by the Serpent that it indeed WAS above all else?)

More than ever these days, I believe we desperately need to share our witnessing for His Word, His Truth. What is more important than that?

As we've grown older, our priorities should change. Whence in youth we are more about ego, reproduction, our life's work, and personal accomplishment; This invariably (should) give way to wisdom, selflessness, and refinement of our faith (and His Truth.)

As we age, many of us also experience the inevitable -- the death of family and close friends. For me personally, the grieving process has especially been challenging -- but heart/spirit changing experience. That's made it a blessing.

The grieving process also underscores how important it is that we understand how relatively brief our "trial period" by our Lord and Creator is -- as well as our respective "mission" it is to understand His Word and/or share our scriptural understanding of His Grace and Gospel *before* our/their "deadline."

As those we love pass on, it is a further critical reminder to do so before those we love and know check out into their "Forever Home." As you know there are no Second Chances.

Liberator  posted on  2020-01-27   15:45:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Esso, Lod (#37)

(Google maps for North Pole pulled up a big blue screen here.)

Maybe because there's no land mass, just ice there?

Maybe. Maybe not. That's what we've been told, isn't it?

Why should the gummint(s) be relied on to be truthful about that when they obviously are not abut so much?

Esso...IF WE WANTED, the three of us still wouldn't even be able to conduct extensive research and investigation near the magnetic North Pole epicenter either.

Both the Arctic and (especially) Antarctic regions for some reason are considered largely verboten from independent research and exploration.

Liberator  posted on  2020-01-27   16:00:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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