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Title: U.S. Televangelist To Launch Christian Pro-israel Lobby
Source: Haaretz
URL Source: http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/701583.html
Published: Apr 2, 2006
Author: Shlomo Shamir
Post Date: 2006-04-02 19:56:10 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 1719
Comments: 104

NEW YORK - Televangelist John Hagee told Jewish community leaders over the weekend that the 40 million evangelical Christians in the United States support Israel and that he plans to utilize this power to help Israel by launching a Christian pro-Israel lobby.

The lobby, called Christians United for Israel, is slated to launch in July, during a Washington conference in which hundreds of American evangelicals are slated to participate, Hagee said at a meeting of the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations, which represents 52 national Jewish groups. He also discussed the lobby with Israel's consul general in New York, Aryeh Mekel.

Hagee said his group would be a Christian - and more powerful - version of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), a large pro-Israel lobby, and would target senators and congressmen on Capitol Hill. A quarter of congressmen are evangelicals, and many American legislators represent regions that include a large evangelical population, he said.

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Hagee - the founder and senior pastor of the evangelical Cornerstone Church in San Antonio, Texas, that claims an active membership of more than 18,000 - said the lobby's activities would be a "political earthquake."

In his meeting with Mekel, Hagee said he planned to establish an effective network of key activists across the United States who can be reached within 24 hours if necessary for emergency lobbying efforts. He said he has already appointed 12 regional directors who are to be responsible for lobby activities in their areas and that he plans to appoint representatives in every state and major city.

Hagee also said he would head a delegation of 500 evangelicals slated to visit Israel this summer.

"The evangelical population's support of Israel is very important," said Mekel yesterday.

The Israeli ambassador to the United States, Danny Ayalon, responded in a similar fashion while discussing the new lobby in February.

"We see Christians in the United States as true friends and important supporters on the basis of shared values, and we welcome their efforts to strengthen the ties between Israel and the U.S.," Ayalon said at the time.

Anti-Defamation League director Abe Foxman was a bit more cautious. He said Hagee's project should be welcomed, but added that Jews and Israelis should be both respectful and wary. Foxman noted that Hagee told the Conference of Presidents that the evangelical support Israel from a biblical perspective, but did not explain exactly what he meant.

Rabbi James Rudin, author of "The Baptizing of America: The Religious Right's Plans for the Rest of Us," said Sunday that Hagee - one of 20 evangelical leaders who met with Ariel Sharon during his last trip to Washington - has been known for many years as an enthusiastic advocate of Israel, and is a typical right-wing Christian supporter of the country.

Some 400 Christian community leaders met in San Antonio in February to establish the lobby. Other than Hagee, its leaders include evangelist George Morrison; fundamentalist Baptist minister Jerry Falwell; and Gary Bauer, president of the American Values organization aimed at protecting marriage, family and faith. All are well-known supporters of Israel, and considered hawkish.

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#2. To: Brian S (#0)

I often wonder why there is so much "need" to support Israel, or other nations. How come no one goes out of their way to support we the people right here in America?

buckeroo  posted on  2006-04-02   20:06:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: buckeroo (#2)

I often wonder why there is so much "need" to support Israel, or other nations.

Ask your pal Goldi - the one whose pocket you keep filled. Ass...

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-11-27   20:43:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Jethro Tull (#8)

Ask your pal Goldi - the one whose pocket you keep filled. Ass...

I have no need. Why do you have a compulsion to direct me?

buckeroo  posted on  2006-12-02   20:20:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: buckeroo (#10)

I have no need. Why do you have a compulsion to direct me?

He is afraid you will do something stupid.

Minerva  posted on  2006-12-02   20:37:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Minerva (#11)

I never advanced SPAM as a meal for Y2K phenomena. Neither have I advanced a failed website called post liberty. I put all my money in the bank and watch JT crawl and twirl as he lives off the government trough.

buckeroo  posted on  2006-12-02   20:43:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: buckeroo (#12)

as he lives off the government trough.

A pension from the NYPD is a private plan, buck. It's not affiliated with the government. Its membership is sustained by personal deductions by the employees.

christine  posted on  2006-12-02   21:20:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: christine (#37)

You know, christine .... here is is my suggestion for you. Kick back and watch the thread .. don't bump it ... as you don't know what you are talking about.

buckeroo  posted on  2006-12-02   21:25:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: buckeroo (#43)

as you don't know what you are talking about.

here is my suggestion for you. don't bet on that because you'd lose.

christine  posted on  2006-12-02   21:36:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: christine (#53)

christine -

I told you don't go where you are going. BACKOFF. If you examine the thread, I am on a defensive. More than that YOU are supporting a method to bring down 4um.
Take it easy ... allow us to take care of our own without management concers or considerations that may create havoc.

buckeroo  posted on  2006-12-02   21:41:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: buckeroo (#55)

i have no idea what you're talking about. what i posted concerning JT has nothing whatsoever to do with this forum or its management.

christine  posted on  2006-12-02   22:23:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: christine (#76)

have no idea what you're talking about. what i posted concerning JT has nothing whatsoever to do with this forum or its management.

What on God's green Earth are you talking about? Just butt out of the discussion, will ya?

buckeroo  posted on  2006-12-02   22:27:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: buckeroo (#78)

ok. i've had enough of you. you "butt" out of here.

christine  posted on  2006-12-02   22:42:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: christine (#81)

ok. i've had enough of you. you "butt" out of here.

i think buck got a little confused about who was in charge here. sometimes the point needs to be reinforced.

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2006-12-02   22:57:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Morgana le Fay, Buckaroo (#89)

Party's over : (

Diana  posted on  2006-12-02   23:08:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Diana, Jethro Tull (#91)

I guess it's going to be quiet on Saturday nights without the brokeback- buckeroo.

but he's a millionaire. and he's got other web sites. and he's got his bottle. so he'll get along.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-12-03   1:23:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Red Jones, christine, Jethro Tull, tom007 (#94)

Is Buckaroo really banned? Permanently?

Diana  posted on  2006-12-03   14:55:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Diana (#95)

he was engaging in his normal provocations and silliness for the sake of self- entertainment. he hurled tremendous insults at people routinely. and all I said was 'brokeback-buckeroo'. and he went crazy - and spewed all kinds of obscenity and strong passion.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-12-03   15:00:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Red Jones, Jethro Tull, Minerva (#97)

I know it was sort of a weekly thing with him, I hadn't been on here for awhile but when I came on last night I saw it was the same weekend Buckaroo thing with JT and such. It had been going on for quite some time, I thought it was partly in jest, but I guess he has other forums to post on. I think the drinking made him behave the way he did, I'm just surprised he got banned as it takes a lot to get banned here. I seem to remember the broke-back-buckaroo comment from a few weeks ago, and the homo-erotic comments towards JT. Minerva might miss bantering with him a little, that was pretty comical.

Diana  posted on  2006-12-03   15:06:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Diana (#98)

ol' brokeback-buck was pretty harmless once you understood that he was a provocateur who said insulting things for fun. JT and him had fun trading insults. all that's harmless, although some might find it dis-tasteful, especially people who didn't understand brokeback-buck.

my comment about him was mild compared to some of his insults to others. and he went berserk. and I wouldn't have made that comment if he weren't the provocateur that he is. I was just giving him his own medicine.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-12-03   15:16:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Red Jones (#99)

Those threads were a bit entertaining, though the line was crossed a bit at times. JT took it all in stride, he seemed to understand where it was all coming from, as did you.

Diana  posted on  2006-12-03   15:19:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#101. To: Diana (#100)

and as soon as he went berserk I stopped posting in that incident several weeks ago. I did not flame with him.

nobody who knows buck takes that guy seriously.

I think he's probably a real smart guy - makes I bet an excellent living as a techie just as he says. but he's got issues. (who doesn't) he makes his public though. and when he drinks - he gets out of control.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-12-03 15:22:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: Diana (#100)

Those threads were a bit entertaining, though the line was crossed a bit at times.

I got tired of him propositioning me. He kept sending me PM's saying he was the Liberace of the Internet and asking if I wanted come over a light his candelabra.

Trace21231  posted on  2006-12-04 01:59:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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